Mormons

Originally posted by Thundar
Thank you for replying with a direct answer. So the initial argument made stands, each of us would be forced to accept the other's individual positions.

If my position(or my personal boundary) ended up crossing Adam's then from the relativistic perspective, he would have to accept the fact that my position was of an equal value of his own, seeing as how it was based on my own experience.

Originally posted by Thundar
Thank you for replying with a direct answer. So the initial argument made stands, each of us would be forced to accept the other's individual positions.

If my position(or my personal boundary) ended up crossing Adam's then from the relativistic perspective, he would have to accept the fact that my position was of an equal value of his own, seeing as how it was based on my own experience.

No, it does not. No, he would not. No, I would not.

Supposing we are both Relativists in your example, and your values conflicted with my values, each would maintain that the values of the other are only applicable to him; there would be no consideration of the values of the other in relationship to you.

Originally posted by soin2cal
I have always wandered about mormons, and what their differences are between christians/catholics. I believe they have a different set of how they like to be, though i do not understand why many christians/catholics dont get along with them.

[list][*]We believe God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct beings in the same manner that I am distinct from you, although they are Gods. Albeit they form the Godhead as being one in purpose.[*]We believe that God continues to speak to man through prophets.[*]We believe that man is punished for his own sins and that there is no "original sin" that burdens all men.[*]We have Temples.[*]We believe in premortal existence.[*]We believe that God has spoken, in the past, to more individuals than are recorded in the Bible.[*]We believe God is literally the Father of mankind. This leads to the belief that our potential is to possibly become like God.[/list]

These beliefs are often so conflicting with other Christian's beliefs so as to be considered by them to be another religious view entirely. Our beliefs often lead to mainstream Christians questioning basic beliefs held.

On top of this, we are a growing religion, the fastest growing religion in the world, I believe. We are not exponential in growth I do not believe, but I believe we are approaching a quadratic rate of growth, while mainstream Christianity is either declining or experiencing minimal growth by comparison.

Originally posted by ~dorkerina~
😆 yes better left unexplored i suppose.

i just want you to know that i believe in christ as my redeamer with all my heart. i would rather die than reject or even sugest that christ is not my savior or that he never lived. i try to pattern my very life off his teachings (yes that does mean the bible) and i know that he has redemed me from certain doom. I love him and respect him with all of my might, mind, and strenght. I know that he loves each and every one of us, that includes you and me, and still lives today. If that is not christanity i do not know what is.

oh and someone said something about wierd underware, i just want to let you know that that is not quiet right. its more like how jews used to (i don't know if they still do) wear their prayer shawls, it's a reminder of a promise.

***Dorkerina:

I am curious as to who you say Jesus Christ is. (1) Is He God?...(2)Is He the ONLY God? (3)Is He the ONLY way to Heaven...(4)Does the Father have another God above Himself?...(5) Are there other gods? (6)Will you become a god/goddess?...(7)Is the Bible your SOLE authority for what you believe?...(8)Can you earn salvation by your good deeds?...(9)How will you achieve immortality?...and (10)Is LUCIFER Jesus' brother?

Marchello

Originally posted by Marchello
***Dorkerina:

I am curious as to who you say Jesus Christ is. (1) Is He God?...(2)Is He the ONLY God? (3)Is He the ONLY way to Heaven...(4)Does the Father have another God above Himself?...(5) Are there other gods? (6)Will you become a god/goddess?...(7)Is the Bible your SOLE authority for what you believe?...(8)Can you earn salvation by your good deeds?...(9)How will you achieve immortality?...and (10)Is LUCIFER Jesus' brother?

Marchello

I'm gonna take the mike for a sec and answer this. She might answer later as well, and I might expect something from Regret as well, but here's my take on your questions.

1- Yes
2- Yes depending on what you mean by God
3- Absolutely (We call it the Celestial Kingdom)
4- Not as far as we're concerned. (Is your Grandfather another father above your dad?)
5- 1 Cor 8:5-6
6- I hope so, that doesn't mean that God won't still be my Lord and God though
7- Absolutely not, God is the Supreme authority and we believe all that he has revealed, all that he does now reveal, and when he reveals more we'll believe that too.
8- It is impossible to earn salvation without Jesus (refer to question #3)
9- Immortality is a free gift granted through the atonement, Salvation must be actively sought through faith.
10- I'm thinking Lucifer was disowned, but sure we were all once a big happy family.

Of your question #7 is the one I have the biggest problem with. Some Christians seem almost idolatrous when it comes to the bible. God is the authority, not the Bible. Refer to the thread on "Do Christians worship the Bible?"

Originally posted by docb77
I'm gonna take the mike for a sec and answer this. She might answer later as well, and I might expect something from Regret as well, but here's my take on your questions.

1- Yes
2- Yes depending on what you mean by God
3- Absolutely (We call it the Celestial Kingdom)
4- Not as far as we're concerned. (Is your Grandfather another father above your dad?)
5- 1 Cor 8:5-6
6- I hope so, that doesn't mean that God won't still be my Lord and God though
7- Absolutely not, God is the Supreme authority and we believe all that he has revealed, all that he does now reveal, and when he reveals more we'll believe that too.
8- It is impossible to earn salvation without Jesus (refer to question #3)
9- Immortality is a free gift granted through the atonement, Salvation must be actively sought through faith.
10- I'm thinking Lucifer was disowned, but sure we were all once a big happy family.

Of your question #7 is the one I have the biggest problem with. Some Christians seem almost idolatrous when it comes to the bible. God is the authority, not the Bible. Refer to the thread on "Do Christians worship the Bible?"

Originally posted by docb77
I'm gonna take the mike for a sec and answer this. She might answer later as well, and I might expect something from Regret as well, but here's my take on your questions.

1- Yes
2- Yes depending on what you mean by God
3- Absolutely (We call it the Celestial Kingdom)
4- Not as far as we're concerned. (Is your Grandfather another father above your dad?)
5- 1 Cor 8:5-6
6- I hope so, that doesn't mean that God won't still be my Lord and God though
7- Absolutely not, God is the Supreme authority and we believe all that he has revealed, all that he does now reveal, and when he reveals more we'll believe that too.
8- It is impossible to earn salvation without Jesus (refer to question #3)
9- Immortality is a free gift granted through the atonement, Salvation must be actively sought through faith.
10- I'm thinking Lucifer was disowned, but sure we were all once a big happy family.

Of your question #7 is the one I have the biggest problem with. Some Christians seem almost idolatrous when it comes to the bible. God is the authority, not the Bible. Refer to the thread on "Do Christians worship the Bible?"

So approximately how many Gods will there be in heaven when all of this is said and done? And if all of you partake in fellowship with one another in Heaven, won't you all be breaking the commandment of "thou shalt put no other God's before me."?

Originally posted by Thundar
So approximately how many Gods will there be in heaven when all of this is said and done? And if all of you partake in fellowship with one another in Heaven, won't you all be breaking the commandment of "thou shalt put no other God's before me."?

There's no limit to how many gods there could be. infinite, eternal, never-ending - those are words used to describe God. Big surprise that his offspring would be like Him.

As far as the commandment thing goes. There would still be no other God before the Lord. Do you put any other father before your own? You can still talk to and associate with other fathers though now can't you?

Originally posted by docb77
There's no limit to how many gods there could be. infinite, eternal, never-ending...

That's the same thing Satan said before being cast out of heavens and thrown down to the earth.

Originally posted by docb77
- those are words used to describe God. Big surprise that his offspring would be like Him.

Being like him doesn't necessarily make one him. There is only one God, and there will always be just one God. The Mormon opinion of man at some point becoming God, is an extremely unbiblical one.

Originally posted by docb77
As far as the commandment thing goes. There would still be no other God before the Lord. Do you put any other father before your own? You can still talk to and associate with other fathers though now can't you?

I would never put any father before my own, nor would I ever believe myself to be my own father. I understand that despite our similarities, he is a distinctly different individual. If I truly love him, then I will respect this individuality and role of him being my father, just like he respects my individuality and role of being his son.

Originally posted by Thundar
That's the same thing Satan said before being cast out of heavens and thrown down to the earth.

You don't know what Satan said. 🙄

sockie

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You don't know what Satan said. 🙄

sockie

But I'm sure that you do...😉

That is of course, assumming that your master considers you a "friend" and shares everything he knows with you. But rather than impose such a grueling-emotive supposition upon an obviously apparent psuedo-intellectual like yourself; Please let me refer you to what my master and "friend" has stated about the issue:

Isaiah 14:12-17
You said in your heart, ‘13 I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High.’

So although I may not have hit the mark completely on what was exactly said, I still think I paraphrased what was actually said fairly well.

Originally posted by Thundar
But I'm sure that you do...😉

That is of course, assumming that your master considers you a "friend" and shares everything he knows with you. But rather than impose such a grueling-emotive supposition upon an obviously apparent psuedo-intellectual like yourself; Please let me refer you to what my master and "friend" has stated about the issue:

Isaiah 14:12-17
You said in your heart, ‘13 I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High.’

So although I may not have hit the mark completely on what was exactly said, I still think I paraphrased what was actually said fairly well.

Hi whob, I have missed you. It took me some time to realize it was you. But I did some studies on how you write, I maybe wrong, but you have the same kind of writing style as whobdamandog. 😆

Originally posted by Thundar
That's the same thing Satan said before being cast out of heavens and thrown down to the earth.

Originally posted by Thundar
Being like him doesn't necessarily make one him. There is only one God, and there will always be just one God. The Mormon opinion of man at some point becoming God, is an extremely unbiblical one.

Originally posted by Thundar
I would never put any father before my own, nor would I ever believe myself to be my own father. I understand that despite our similarities, he is a distinctly different individual. If I truly love him, then I will respect this individuality and role of him being my father, just like he respects my individuality and role of being his son.

Originally posted by Regret
There is no Biblical base for this statement, and given your stance, the Bible is all you have.

And the bible is all that I need for this argument.

As mentioned above, the statement was parapharased. It was primarily based off of Isaiah 14:12. I forgot to mention though that it was also loosely based of off what was stated in Genesis 3:3-5.

Genesis 3:3-5

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods,

So obviously Satan or the "serpent" is implying that Eve will become like God(i.e., infinite, eternal, never-ending) if she eats the fruit.

There's also a similar reference to Satan's deception in the book of Adam and Eve, which further extrapolates upon the Genesis story. In one particular instance several angels serving God come before the couple. They then allude to Satan deceiving over half of the heavenly hosts(or angels) with the same method he had used to deceive them. The book is quite interesting. I recommend that you read it sometime if you haven't already done so.

Originally posted by Regret
The Bible does not contradict this view, Christ himself, and his divinity prove the LDS view.

Mormons commonly take out of context the 3 ways our 1 God manifests himself before his creations(Father, Son, Holy Spirit) or the "Trinity", and consider this representative of themselves being "god's" someday.

They also take many other scriptural passages of other gods existing out of context(such as Duet 6:14, Duet 28:14) to support this notion.

What they forget to take into account is that the term "God", doesn't always represent something of a spiritual nature within the scriptures.

Sometimes it does, like in the case of Deut 6:14:

Deut 6:14
Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you)

In the verse above God is specifically commanding the Israelites not to worship other "spiritual" gods of the peoples around them. Many of these such verses, are referring to the worship of condemned angels cast down from the heavens.

While other such references like Isaiah 2:8, are more so referring to the physical things that man puts in place for himself before God, or idols. These idols can represent any physical thing on this earth, whether it be money, another person, job status, etc.

Isaiah 2:8
Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:

Despite all of these fake gods being present before mankind, God still refers to himself as the one true God, as there were none that were formed before him, nor will there be any gods formed after him.

Isaiah 43:10
I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

So once again, The Mormon belief that mankind will one day become "gods" someday, is very unscriptural. And is one of the primary reasons why it's doctrine, is not considered a Christian one.

Originally posted by Regret
Any father that wishes his children to be eternally less than himself is not a good father. If he truly loves you, he wants you to become like himself.

Any son who doesn't realize that his father has become lesser than himself, by enslaving himself to his family's needs, is not a very good one.

Originally posted by Thundar
And the bible is all that I need for this argument.

As mentioned above, the statement was parapharased. It was primarily based off of Isaiah 14:12. I forgot to mention though that it was also loosely based of off what was stated in Genesis 3:3-5.

Genesis 3:3-5

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods,

So obviously Satan or the "serpent" is implying that Eve will become like God(i.e., infinite, eternal, never-ending) if she eats the fruit.

There's also a similar reference to Satan's deception in the book of Adam and Eve, which further extrapolates upon the Genesis story. In one particular instance several angels serving God come before the couple. They then allude to Satan deceiving over half of the heavenly hosts(or angels) with the same method he had used to deceive them. The book is quite interesting. I recommend that you read it sometime if you haven't already done so.

Genesis is referring to the ability to discern good from evil. When Adam and Eve partook of the fruit they did become as God, gaining the ability to discern between good and evil. There is no need to jump past what is stated in the Bible.

Genesis 3:24
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

So, Adam and Eve knew of the tree of life, and eternal life was not what they thought they would get.

Genesis 2:17
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

They also knew what the tree that they partook from was.

Now, Satan was not cast down at this point, he was merely cursed.

Originally posted by Thundar
Mormons commonly take out of context the 3 ways our 1 God manifests himself before his creations(Father, Son, Holy Spirit) or the "Trinity", and consider this representative of themselves being "god's" someday.

They also take many other scriptural passages of other gods existing out of context(such as Duet 6:14, Duet 28:14) to support this notion.

What they forget to take into account is that the term "God", doesn't always represent something of a spiritual nature within the scriptures.

Sometimes it does, like in the case of Deut 6:14:

Deut 6:14
Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you)

In the verse above God is specifically commanding the Israelites not to worship other "spiritual" gods of the peoples around them. Many of these such verses, are referring to the worship of condemned angels cast down from the heavens.

While other such references like Isaiah 2:8, are more so referring to the physical things that man puts in place for himself before God, or idols. These idols can represent any physical thing on this earth, whether it be money, another person, job status, etc.

Isaiah 2:8
Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:

Despite all of these fake gods being present before mankind, God still refers to himself as the one true God, as there were none that were formed before him, nor will there be any gods formed after him.

Isaiah 43:10
I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

So once again, The Mormon belief that mankind will one day become "gods" someday, is very unscriptural. And is one of the primary reasons why it's doctrine, is not considered a Christian one.

Originally posted by Thundar
Any son who doesn't realize that his father has become lesser than himself, by enslaving himself to his family's needs, is not a very good one.

Originally posted by Regret
Genesis is referring to the ability to discern good from evil. When Adam and Eve partook of the fruit they did become as God, gaining the ability to discern between good and evil.

Your interpretation of the Genesis account above is a very unbiblical, and it grieves me much in stating that it is even satanic. Adam and Eve did not become like God from eating of the fruit and disobeying him, they became like Satan by disobeying him. Had they obeyed, and chosen to ask God for this knowledge, rather than forcefully take it, they would have demonstrated true Godly character and been rewarded with such knowledge.

The only reason why God showed mercy upon man was because he had been deceived into eating from the tree, and wasn't entirely at fault for disobeying God. Had this not been the case, then man himself would probably have been in the same situation as Satan.

Originally posted by Regret
Now, Satan was not cast down at this point, he was merely cursed.

You are somewhat correct with this assumption. The serpent itself was cursed, however, Satan himself was already cast down from heaven quite some time before this. Jesus makes a reference to Satan being cast out of heaven in the following verses.

Luke 10:18
10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Originally posted by Regret
I forget you believe God is a misleading entity that deceives his children through his perfect dissociative identity disorder. Sorry, but Trinitarian doctrine is the greatest lie ever told. Your verses only support your position if Trinitarian doctrine is not a lie. So, given that Trinitarian doctrine is a lie, the verses presented are not a threat to my beliefs.

By denying Christ's divinity, equality and oneness with the Father as well as the Holy Spirit, you are denying Christ being God. I don't wish to get into theological discussion regarding "doctrines" or various sects that are currently catagorized or not catagorized as being Christian. If you really want to find the truth, meditate/pray on/and follow the scriptures.

Originally posted by Regret
A father is enslaved to his family's need de facto by his creation of them. Responsibility and responsible behavior do not lessen, they show greatness. God is responsible for his creation, if he is not he is not good.

God is responsable for his creation, but as a loving father, he allows his creations to choose whether or not they will allow him to assume this responsablity.

If a son renounces himself from his fathers household, then a loving father will let his son go about doing what he pleases, so long as the son does not go about harming anyone who chooses to stay with the father.

When the son has finally made the decision not to come back to his father's house, regardless of how much his father pleads for him to do so, then ultimately the son becomes responsable for his own destiny...be it a good or bad one.

Originally posted by Thundar
Your interpretation of the Genesis account above is a very unbiblical, and it grieves me much in stating that it is even satanic. Adam and Eve did not become like God from eating of the fruit and disobeying him, they became like Satan by disobeying him. Had they obeyed, and chosen to ask God for this knowledge, rather than forcefully take it, they would have demonstrated true Godly character and been rewarded with such knowledge.

The only reason why God showed mercy upon man was because he had been deceived into eating from the tree, and wasn't entirely at fault for disobeying God. Had this not been the case, then man himself would probably have been in the same situation as Satan.

God showed no mercy to man at that time. Man became mortal and would thus taste of death. Man became as God, capable of knowing good from evil, a state that does not make man equal to God.

You claim some reward would have been given Adam and Eve, this is definitely not doctrine found in the Bible. It amuses me that many so-called Christians will state things are unbiblical and not in the Bible and then turn around and while claiming that God no longer speaks to prophets make statements about things not stated in the Bible. Your position relies on things that are not stated in the Bible and are only supported by your interpretations that are tempered by the philosophies of men that have spent two thousand years trying to understand a book that claims it can only be understood with the aid of the spirit. Your beliefs follow very much the warped beliefs that mainstream Christianity has evolved over the past two millennium, not the Bible.

Originally posted by Thundar
You are somewhat correct with this assumption. The serpent itself was cursed, however, Satan himself was already cast down from heaven quite some time before this. Jesus makes a reference to Satan being cast out of heaven in the following verses.

Luke 10:18
10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Satan fell before the Garden. These verses refer to the event that occurred prior to the Garden.

Originally posted by Thundar
By denying Christ's divinity, equality and oneness with the Father as well as the Holy Spirit, you are denying Christ being God. I don't wish to get into theological discussion regarding "doctrines" or various sects that are currently catagorized or not catagorized as being Christian. If you really want to find the truth, meditate/pray on/and follow the scriptures.

I have never denied Christ's divinity, equality or oneness with the Father or the Holy Spirit. I have denied your definition of oneness. If your definition is correct, then you also believe that all true believers are one with the Godhead in the same manner as Christ and God are one:

John 17: 11
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

So, is the Bible once again contradictory? Or perhaps you will interpret this verse to suit your false beliefs, twisting it as mainstream Christianity does.

Originally posted by Thundar
God is responsable for his creation, but as a loving father, he allows his creations to choose whether or not they will allow him to assume this responsablity.

If a son renounces himself from his fathers household, then a loving father will let his son go about doing what he pleases, so long as the son does not go about harming anyone who chooses to stay with the father.

When the son has finally made the decision not to come back to his father's house, regardless of how much his father pleads for him to do so, then ultimately the son becomes responsable for his own destiny...be it a good or bad one.

Originally posted by Regret
Man became as God, capable of knowing good from evil, a state that does not make man equal to God.

You only continue to show that your interpretation of the scripture is a sinful one. Man was already made in God's "image", so there was no need for him to partake of the fruit to become any more God-like. He fell from grace upon his sinful disobedience, becoming more like the one who initially deceived him into this disobedience, Satan himself.

There would be no need for God's grace with the sacrifice of Christ, if man himself had become more God-like from eating of the tree of knowledge. Once again, you are inadvertently denying the deity of Christ with your stance, and it greatly grieves me as a follower of Christ, that you have been deceived by such foolish worldly philosophical doctrines. I truly hope that you pray on what has been stated, so that you are not lead astray by it.

Originally posted by Regret
You claim some reward would have been given Adam and Eve, this is definitely not doctrine found in the Bible.

It's a logical and common sense assumption based on scripture. Here's a verse supporting this assumption -

1 Peter 3:8

Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble. Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.

There are many more, and I'm sure that you probably know of them, so I didn't feel it necessary to provide mutliple scriptures.

Originally posted by Regret
Satan fell before the Garden. These verses refer to the event that occurred prior to the Garden.

I never stated that he hadn't fell prior to the garden. The serpent was actually cursed during the Garden of Eden incident, not Satan, as he had already fallen before this. The only reason I can assume as to why you have brought this up, is to in some way trick myself and others into insinuating that I did, in order to portray yourself as more knowledgeable regarding this subject.

Originally posted by Regret
I have never denied Christ's divinity, equality or oneness with the Father or the Holy Spirit. I have denied your definition of oneness. If your definition is correct, then you also believe that all true believers are one with the Godhead in the same manner as Christ and God are one:

Without even getting into scriptures or denominational arguments, you have indeed denied Christ's divinity, by insinuating yourself as becoming a God like him. There is only one God, and you will never become him, nor will you ever be like him.

Originally posted by Thundar
You only continue to show that your interpretation of the scripture is a sinful one. Man was already made in God's "image", so there was no need for him to partake of the fruit to become any more God-like. He fell from grace upon his sinful disobedience, becoming more like the one who initially deceived him into this disobedience, Satan himself.

There would be no need for God's grace with the sacrifice of Christ, if man himself had become more God-like from eating of the tree of knowledge. Once again, you are inadvertently denying the deity of Christ with your stance, and it greatly grieves me as a follower of Christ, that you have been deceived by such foolish worldly philosophical doctrines. I truly hope that you pray on what has been stated, so that you are not lead astray by it.

It's a logical and common sense assumption based on scripture. Here's a verse supporting this assumption -

1 Peter 3:8

Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble. Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.

There are many more, and I'm sure that you probably know of them, so I didn't feel it necessary to provide mutliple scriptures.

I never stated that he hadn't fell prior to the garden. The serpent was actually cursed during the Garden of Eden incident, not Satan, as he had already fallen before this. The only reason I can assume as to why you have brought this up, is to in some way trick myself and others into insinuating that I did, in order to portray yourself as more knowledgeable regarding this subject.

Without even getting into scriptures or denominational arguments, you have indeed denied Christ's divinity, by insinuating yourself as becoming a God like him. There is only one God, and you will never become him, nor will you ever be like him.

QUIET WHOB !

Originally posted by Thundar

Without even getting into scriptures or denominational arguments, you have indeed denied Christ's divinity, by insinuating yourself as becoming a God like him. There is only one God, and you will never become him, nor will you ever be like him.

Maybe it's just me, but it would seem that it is a very biblical belief that we can be like Christ.

Romans 8:16-17

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.