Originally posted by Regret
You keep stating they taught this, but you misinterpret what they stated, even after being corrected.If you are correct in your beliefs Marchello, I will march into Hell with my head held high, and with no regret whatsoever. I do not like a God that would promote most of the beliefs you espouse. I believe that [b]if
you are a paragon of proper Christian behavior, Satan was correct in rebelling and his position is correct. [/B]
I admire what you wrote here, it's awesome. But for the record, that's exactly how I feel about God's supposed disapproval of homosexuality. If I am truly going to Hell because im half-homo, then I'd rather go to Hell than serve your kind of God.
Or Marcello's.
Thanks for proving the point further about Christian Hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I admire what you wrote here, it's awesome. But for the record, that's [b]exactly how I feel about God's supposed disapproval of homosexuality. If I am truly going to Hell because im half-homo, then I'd rather go to Hell than serve your kind of God.[/B]
But the real question is - which half of you is the homo-half?
And it is quite telling when Christians and non-Christians alike would prefer to go to hell rather then get with Marcello's freakish aberration of a God. Sadly I doubt he would see the humor of it. Rather I just imagine he would chalk it up to our "God hate."
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
But the real question is - which half of you is the homo-half?And it is quite telling when Christians and non-Christians alike would prefer to go to hell rather then get with Marcello's freakish aberration of a God. Sadly I doubt he would see the humor of it. Rather I just imagine he would chalk it up to our "God hate."
Marcello makes Whob look compassionate, and makes JIA look rational....I agree 100% with everything Regret said to Marcello, especially in that statement.
However, I remember making the exact same point to Regret, not to long ago, when we used to have our debates about homosexuality and religion.
I just want him to remember....and since he is discussing Christian hypocrisy and attacks on other Faiths, primarily mainstream Christianity's prejudice against and denial of Mormoms, I didn't think bringing up homosexuality and religion would be off topic or inappropriate for the point I am trying to make.
Originally posted by Lord UrizenI remember the discussion, but the discussion typically included you holding to mainstream Christianity's view of hell and denying what Mormons believe as to hell. In Mormon theology homosexuality does not warrant hell, just a lesser position in heaven. In fact the only way to get to hell in Mormon theology is to know for a fact God exists and deny him, everything else just impacts position in heaven. A point you never seemed to understand.
Marcello makes Whob look compassionate, and makes JIA look rational....I agree 100% with everything Regret said to Marcello, especially in that statement.However, I remember making the [b]exact
same point to Regret, not to long ago, when we used to have our debates about homosexuality and religion.I just want him to remember....and since he is discussing Christian hypocrisy and attacks on other Faiths, primarily mainstream Christianity's prejudice against and denial of Mormoms, I didn't think bringing up homosexuality and religion would be off topic or inappropriate for the point I am trying to make. [/B]
But, yes I remember the discussion and can appreciate your position. I only get irked when you hold to beliefs about what my beliefs are.
Originally posted by Regret
I remember the discussion, but the discussion typically included you holding to mainstream Christianity's view of hell and denying what Mormons believe as to hell. In Mormon theology homosexuality does not warrant hell, just a lesser position in heaven. In fact the only way to get to hell in Mormon theology is to know for a fact God exists and deny him, everything else just impacts position in heaven. A point you never seemed to understand.
I don't think you get the point...the point was you do not appreciate Marcello debasing your identity and faith as a Mormon. He is calling you part of a cult, debasing all your knowledge simply referring to it as Satan's teachings etc
You have every right to be angry with him, and I am glad that you told him that you would rather end up in Hell than serve his version of God.
But likewise, I would rather end up in Hell than serve your version of God.
Get it ?
Mormon Faith may be distinguished from mainstream Christianity, but the fact remains that both see Homosexuality as degenerate and as morally inferior. If I were to enter your Heaven, but hold a lesser position, or be denied certain rights, privelages, and freedoms due to my sexual preference, than I would rather bail out and go somewhere else, then serve under such a prejudice God, which your God still is.
Originally posted by Regret
But, yes I remember the discussion and can appreciate your position. I only get irked when you hold to beliefs about what my beliefs are.
I know what you're beleifs are, but that's not my point, which I think you missed. If given the choice between serving your intepretation of God by having a lesser position and power in Heaven, and ending up in Hell, simply for being who I am, I'd choose the latter.
Originally posted by MarchelloFrom my statement, if your beliefs are correct, I am marching into the hell of your beliefs, not the hell of mine.
*["If you are correct in your beliefs Marchello, I will march into Hell with my head held high, and with no regret whatsoever."]***You only say that because you are convinced that Hell isn't ETERNAL and that you won't go there [James Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 55]. However, Mr. Talmage's belief that Hell is NOT eternal CONFLICTS with the Book of Mormon [Jacob 3:11;6:10;2 Nephi 19:16;28:21-23]. You are caught on the horns of a dilemna...which do you believe?...Mr. Talmage or the Book of Mormon?
Regardless, Mormon hell is eternal, it is the Outer Darkness. Outer Darkness, the Mormon hell, is much worse than your hell anyway.
You mistakenly do not understand the difference between hell (spirit prison) and hell (Outer Darkness). Outer Darkness is eternal and is the hell referenced when spoken of as eternal, Spirit Prison is temporary and is the hell referenced when spoken of as temporary.
Once again you have displayed your arrogance, ignorance and stupidity.