Marchello was innacurate in the way he defines Mormonism as a cult. His faith is at least 100 fold more cultish.
Eerie how his remarks were ver remeniscient of the ones shouted at Romney during his speech in Florida. Just the fact that 25% of americans said they would not vote for a Mormon president is astounding. It can only beg the question how many would not vote for someone like myself, or a homosexual, or a Muslim, Hindu, or Jew.
*["...We deny that Father God had sex with Mary."]
***You can deny it all you want to...but the fact REMAINS is that your leaders at the highest eschelons preached it and believed it...and PUBLISHED that they believed it and preached it...most notably Brigham Young and Bruce McConkie [your dearly DEPARTED prophet and high council member].
Your church is a cult of epic proportions...and it's doctrines are sending it's adherents into everlasting PERDITION...what a pity.
Marchello
Originally posted by Marchello
*["...We deny that Father God had sex with Mary."]***You can deny it all you want to...but the fact REMAINS is that your leaders at the highest eschelons preached it and believed it...and PUBLISHED that they believed it and preached it...most notably Brigham Young and Bruce McConkie [your dearly DEPARTED prophet and high council member].
Your church is a cult of epic proportions...and it's doctrines are sending it's adherents into everlasting PERDITION...what a pity.
Marchello
For some reason your posts remind me of this:
Of course you don't bother with even the pretense of being a humble believer of your God. Cult of epic proportions, honestly what terribly bad comedy you inflict upon us.
Its funny that the dense one brings this up. Cult is the correct term to describe any religion, and was so, but Christians, and other faiths, have adapted it to mean "bad religion."
The funny part is while Marchello is sitting here screaming and proving what a cultist he is following his own false prophet. I'm sure he'll be commiting suicide because of the coming "apocalypse" (don't worry, its still coming...) very soon. Thats what all cultists like Marchello do.
Too bad hes too ignorant to see clearly, he's one of the sheeps in wolf's clothing that the real Bible, not his cultish perversion fo the text, warns us about.
Originally posted by Alliance
Too bad hes too ignorant to see clearly, he's one of the sheeps in wolf's clothing that the real Bible, not his cultish perversion fo the text, warns us about.
Actually being a "sheep in wolf's clothing" would be a good thing. I consider myself one, and I sincerely have faith that God will consider me one as well.
Sometimes the word comes out of the believer's heart like a ravaging wolf upon the non-believer, but the intentions within the wolf's heart should be like that of a sheep.
Or as Jesus put it(with a much better analogy)--
Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves." Matt. 10:16
So one's heart and their faith in God is what matters most when presenting the scriptures. It is up to God's discretion to soften the heart of the non-believer when the receive the message.
Originally posted by ThundarWOW your back,do you hate mormons like marchello
Actually being a "sheep in wolf's clothing" would be a good thing. I consider myself one, and I sincerely have faith that God will consider me one as well.Sometimes the word comes out of the believer's heart like a ravaging wolf upon the non-believer, but the intentions within the wolf's heart should be like that of a sheep.
Or as Jesus put it(with a much better analogy)--
Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves." Matt. 10:16
So one's heart and their faith in God is what matters most when presenting the scriptures. It is up to God's discretion to soften the heart of the non-believer when the receive the message.
Originally posted by AlliancePolls show Mormons are second only to Muslims on the who would people not vote for.
Marchello was innacurate in the way he defines Mormonism as a cult. His faith is at least 100 fold more cultish.Eerie how his remarks were ver remeniscient of the ones shouted at Romney during his speech in Florida. Just the fact that 25% of americans said they would not vote for a Mormon president is astounding. It can only beg the question how many would not vote for someone like myself, or a homosexual, or a Muslim, Hindu, or Jew.
Originally posted by MarchelloYou keep stating they taught this, but you misinterpret what they stated, even after being corrected.
*["...We deny that Father God had sex with Mary."]***You can deny it all you want to...but the fact REMAINS is that your leaders at the highest eschelons preached it and believed it...and PUBLISHED that they believed it and preached it...most notably Brigham Young and Bruce McConkie [your dearly DEPARTED prophet and high council member].
Your church is a cult of epic proportions...and it's doctrines are sending it's adherents into everlasting PERDITION...what a pity.
Marchello
If you are correct in your beliefs Marchello, I will march into Hell with my head held high, and with no regret whatsoever. I do not like a God that would promote most of the beliefs you espouse. I believe that if you are a paragon of proper Christian behavior, Satan was correct in rebelling and his position is correct.
Originally posted by Regretwow powerful words
You keep stating they taught this, but you misinterpret what they stated, even after being corrected.If you are correct in your beliefs Marchello, I will march into Hell with my head held high, and with no regret whatsoever. I do not like a God that would promote most of the beliefs you espouse. I believe that [b]if
you are a paragon of proper Christian behavior, Satan was correct in rebelling and his position is correct. [/B]
*["You keep stating they taught this, but you misinterpret what they stated, even after being corrected."]
***A scoundrel will always say "you misinterpret what they stated" when he [i.e., the scoundrel] can offer NOTHING in refutation. You NEVER corrected me at all...and only posted a website of what your cultish leaders said...and they REPEATED what I told you they said...word for word. Any unbiased reader would understand what those apostates said...to wit: That your father 'god" [i.e., a "god" of FLESH and BONES with male GENITALIA had SEX with the Virgin Mary]. Too, no matter how you DENY it...the WRITTEN ACCOUNT is available on the Internet for all to see. You father "god" was caught with his pants down around his "ankles." In point of fact, Brigham Young always had his "fly" open...and was a POLYGAMIST and taught and practiced it [Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 266].
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*["If you are correct in your beliefs Marchello, I will march into Hell with my head held high, and with no regret whatsoever."]
***You only say that because you are convinced that Hell isn't ETERNAL and that you won't go there [James Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 55]. However, Mr. Talmage's belief that Hell is NOT eternal CONFLICTS with the Book of Mormon [Jacob 3:11;6:10;2 Nephi 19:16;28:21-23]. You are caught on the horns of a dilemna...which do you believe?...Mr. Talmage or the Book of Mormon?
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*["I do not like a God that would promote most of the beliefs you espouse."]
***Of course, you don't. In fact...you HATE my GOD.
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*["I believe that if you are a paragon of proper Christian behavior, Satan was correct in rebelling and his position is correct.."]
***But, of course, you must hold to that position because your beliefs ARE the beliefs of Satan [i.e., your Father "god"] who would become as GOD and place his "throne" ABOVE the THRONE of GOD. Your beliefs are IDENTICAL to your Father, the Devil...for the "acorn never falls far from the tree."
Marchello
Originally posted by Thundar
Actually being a "sheep in wolf's clothing" would be a good thing. I consider myself one, and I sincerely have faith that God will consider me one as well.Sometimes the word comes out of the believer's heart like a ravaging wolf upon the non-believer, but the intentions within the wolf's heart should be like that of a sheep.
Or as Jesus put it(with a much better analogy)--
Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves." Matt. 10:16
So one's heart and their faith in God is what matters most when presenting the scriptures. It is up to God's discretion to soften the heart of the non-believer when the receive the message.
Socks out of the woodwork.
We're you not warned of sheeps in wolfs clothing. It looks like someone read their Bible backwards. If you can't get that right, I can only imagine how the devil has misquiged your reading.
I find it funny that Jesus finds serpents wise. I do too. When eve ate the fruit, she ate the fruit of knowledge. Thanks to her, humans have brains. Thanks to the wise serpent, we have brains. It seems the Devil created men.
I didn't know that being a good neighbor indicated peating them over the head.
Nice try though.
Originally posted by Regret
I do not like a God that would promote most of the beliefs you espouse. I believe that [b]if you are a paragon of proper Christian behavior, Satan was correct in rebelling and his position is correct. [/B]
Sometimes we are more alike than you know.
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*["...Actually, the Book of Mormon is the most correct book of any on earth and agrees completely with Mormon Doctrine."]
***If the Book of Mormon is "the most correct book of any on earth"...why does it NOT contain essential Mormon doctrines such as (1)Church organization, (2)Plurality of Gods, (3)Word of Wisdom, (4)Plurality of wives doctrine, (5)God is an exalted man, (6)Celestial marriage, (7)Men may become Gods, (8)Baptism for the dead, (10)Eternal progression, (11)The Aaronic Priesthood, and (12)The Melchizedek Priesthood.
The founder of your Church said the Book of Mormon was the most correct book of any book, including the Bible [History of the Church, Vol. 4, p. 461]...and that a man could get closer to God by following it more than any other book...yet, the essential Mormon doctrines aren't even found in it.
This is because the Book of Mormon is nothing more than a fictional account made up by Joseph Smith. It wasn't until after the book had been printed that the additional HERETICAL doctrines of Mormonism started to develope.
The following information is in the Book of Mormon. When we compare it to Mormon Doctrine we will see DIFFERENCES. It is obvious that Mormonism grew and was "pasted together" as it developed. It is NOT internally consistent and is SELF-CONTRADICTORY...to wit:
(A)The Book of Mormon:
(a)There is only ONE God [Mosiah 15:1,5;Alma 11:28;2 Nephi 31:21].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)There are MANY Gods [Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5].
(Continued)
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Originally posted by Marchello
Page 1:*["...Actually, the Book of Mormon is the most correct book of any on earth and agrees completely with Mormon Doctrine."]
***If the Book of Mormon is "the most correct book of any on earth"...why does it NOT contain essential Mormon doctrines such as (1)Church organization, (2)Plurality of Gods, (3)Word of Wisdom, (4)Plurality of wives doctrine, (5)God is an exalted man, (6)Celestial marriage, (7)Men may become Gods, (8)Baptism for the dead, (10)Eternal progression, (11)The Aaronic Priesthood, and (12)The Melchizedek Priesthood.
The founder of your Church said the Book of Mormon was the most correct book of any book, including the Bible [History of the Church, Vol. 4, p. 461]...and that a man could get closer to God by following it more than any other book...yet, the essential Mormon doctrines aren't even found in it.
This is because the Book of Mormon is nothing more than a fictional account made up by Joseph Smith. It wasn't until after the book had been printed that the additional HERETICAL doctrines of Mormonism started to develope.
The following information is in the Book of Mormon. When we compare it to Mormon Doctrine we will see DIFFERENCES. It is obvious that Mormonism grew and was "pasted together" as it developed. It is NOT internally consistent and is SELF-CONTRADICTORY...to wit:
(A)The Book of Mormon:
(a)There is only ONE God [Mosiah 15:1,5;Alma 11:28;2 Nephi 31:21].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)There are MANY Gods [Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5].(Continued)
(B)The Book of Mormon:
(a)The Trinity is ONE God [Alma 11:44;Mosiah 15:5;2 Nephi 31:21].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)The Trinity is THREE separate gods [James Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 35. 1985].
(C)The Book of Mormon:
(a)God is UNCHANGING [Mormon 9:9,19;Moroni 8:18;Alma 41:8;3 Nephi 24:6].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)God is INCREASING in knowledge [Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 120].
(D)The Book of Mormon:
(a)God is SPIRIT [Alma 18:24,28;22:9,11].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)God has the FORM of a man [Joseph Smith, Journal Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3].
(E)The Book of Mormon:
(a)Hell is ETERNAL [Jacob 3:11;6:10;2 Nephi 19:16;28:21-23].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)Hell is NOT eternal [James Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 55].
(F)The Book of Mormon:
(a)Polygamy CONDEMNED [Jacob 1:15;2:23,24,27,31;3:5;Mosiah 11:2,4;Ether 10:5,7].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)Polygamy was TAUGHT and PRACTICED [Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 266].
Marchello
Originally posted by Marchello
***A scoundrel will always say "you misinterpret what they stated" when he [i.e., the scoundrel] can offer NOTHING in refutation. You NEVER corrected me at all...and only posted a website of what your cultish leaders said...
As opposed to refusing, outright, to listen to any others actual arguments. You have stated before you don't need to listen to those who disagree with you because if they are disagreeing with you they are disagreeing with God and thus they must be wrong. Yes... I can see how you can claim some abstract moral ground in the argument.
From what I have read most everyone has had a go at refuting. But you don't have it in you to listen. Which is sad. Not sad enough to use a sad smiley, but still sad.
***Of course, you don't. In fact...you HATE my GOD.
Which is just absurd. How is "They love God in a way not necessarily the same as me" identical to "they hate God."
Really it is taking absolutism to a whole new level.
***But, of course, you must hold to that position because your beliefs ARE the beliefs of Satan [i.e., your Father "god"] who would become as GOD and place his "throne" ABOVE the THRONE of GOD. Your beliefs are IDENTICAL to your Father, the Devil...for the "acorn never falls far from the tree."Marchello
Speaking from personal experience are we?
Once again absurd. Irrational. Illogical - I mean gee, where is your God and his free will and all that? The importance of intent? Do you see anything strange in this logic that despite the fact they believe in God you believe they actual believe in Satan simply because their belief is different to your own?
(B)The Book of Mormon:
(a)The Trinity is ONE God [Alma 11:44;Mosiah 15:5;2 Nephi 31:21].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)The Trinity is THREE separate gods [James Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 35. 1985].(C)The Book of Mormon:
(a)God is UNCHANGING [Mormon 9:9,19;Moroni 8:18;Alma 41:8;3 Nephi 24:6].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)God is INCREASING in knowledge [Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 120].(D)The Book of Mormon:
(a)God is SPIRIT [Alma 18:24,28;22:9,11].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)God has the FORM of a man [Joseph Smith, Journal Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3].(E)The Book of Mormon:
(a)Hell is ETERNAL [Jacob 3:11;6:10;2 Nephi 19:16;28:21-23].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)Hell is NOT eternal [James Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 55].(F)The Book of Mormon:
(a)Polygamy CONDEMNED [Jacob 1:15;2:23,24,27,31;3:5;Mosiah 11:2,4;Ether 10:5,7].
Mormon Doctrine:
(a)Polygamy was TAUGHT and PRACTICED [Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 266].Marchello
Oh my! Oh.... My!!!! To think there are differences of opinion perhaps within the Church of LDS as there are differences of opinion in every other branch of Christianity! Who'd have thought it possible that at some point interpretations of a book might differ? Well, I never.
Well, actually I would, since people with just the Bible have been doing it since the Bible came into existence.
Originally posted by siriuswriter
I've... just run out of witty things to say back to M*******o. Damn you M*******o, for being so stupid and repeating the same things SO MANY TIMES, that I can't respond wittily anymore. Damn it all.
Wow my insult to M*******o is still being kept alive w00t.
And it looks like he hasn't change in the slightest either.