Mormons

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I don't think you get the point...the point was you do not appreciate Marcello debasing your identity and faith as a Mormon. He is calling you part of a cult, debasing all your knowledge simply referring to it as Satan's teachings etc

You have every right to be angry with him, and I am glad that you told him that you would rather end up in Hell than serve his version of God.

But likewise, I would rather end up in Hell than serve your version of God.

Get it ?

Mormon Faith may be distinguished from mainstream Christianity, but the fact remains that both see Homosexuality as degenerate and as morally inferior. If I were to enter your Heaven, but hold a lesser position, or be denied certain rights, privelages, and freedoms due to my sexual preference, than I would rather bail out and go somewhere else, then serve under such a prejudice God, which your God [b]still is.

I know what you're beleifs are, but that's not my point, which I think you missed. If given the choice between serving your intepretation of God by having a lesser position and power in Heaven, and ending up in Hell, simply for being who I am, I'd choose the latter. [/B]

Originally posted by Regret
Yes, I understand it, that was what I meant by "I... can appreciate your position." 😉

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
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I am a Christian/Lutheran. Is there a difference between Mormons and my faith.

Originally posted by guy222
I am a Christian/Lutheran. Is there a difference between Mormons and my faith.

If there was no difference, then you would be of the same faith, would you not?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If there was no difference, then you would be of the same faith, would you not?

Some Mormons disagree with my Christian faith. Others agree with my Lutheran teachings. Martin Luther, i studied

Originally posted by guy222
I am a Christian/Lutheran. Is there a difference between Mormons and my faith.

Originally posted by guy222
Some Mormons disagree with my Christian faith. Others agree with my Lutheran teachings. Martin Luther, i studied

We believe Martin Luther was an inspired man that did many good things. We do not believe he was correct in everything though, a strong example is the position of works in salvation. We do believe that works are a necessary part of the faith that leads to salvation.

We believe Martin Luther was one of a number of individuals that were necessary for the religious zeitgeist to reach a point where the LDS church could come into being (i.e. the Gospel to be fully restored.)

Those crazy Mormons lol

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Those crazy Mormons lol

I was raised catholic/Lutheran

I was raised Catholic.....it was kinky

Originally posted by Regret
Smiter with an "h" instead of an "m" is ... 😆

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I was raised Catholic.....it was kinky

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*["...We believe in the same Jesus that originally walked on the earth and is revealed in the Bible."]

***That is NOT true. You do NOT believe in the SAME Jesus that is revealed in the Bible...and NEITHER does President Hinckley of the LDS Church...to wit: "In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day-Saints 'do NOT believe in the traditional Christ.' 'No, I DON'T. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is NOT the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fullness of Times. He together with His father, appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages.'" [LDS Church News Week ending June 20, 1998, p. 7]

Christians have long maintained that your Church teaches a "jesus" that is DIFFERENT from what the Bible reveals. Of course, you say that he is the SAME Jesus that originally walked on the earth and is revealed in the Bible. Though you make this claim...it is up to you to PROVE it...especially in light of what Mormonism says about God and Jesus.

In the LDS Church, Jesus is a CREATION...the PRODUCT of "relations" between "god" and his "goddess" wife who used to be people from "another world" [Mormon Doctrine by Bruce McConkie, pp. 192,321,516, and 589]. Jesus is the LITERAL "spirit brother" of the DEVIL and of YOU and I [McConkie, pp. 132,589]. Also, in Mormon theology, God has a body of FLESH and BONES [Doctrine & Covenants, 130:22] as does his wife and together they PRODUCE "spirit offspring" in heaven who inhabit HUMAN BODIES on earth.

Very FEW, if any, of your "different" doctrines are found in your Standard Works: the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price. Rather, they are taught by Mormons of high standing: prophets, apostles, members of the 70 Quorum. McConkie, for example, was a member of the 70's Quorum, a very high ranking Mormon and wrote the book, Mormon Doctrine where much of this documentation is taken from.

President Hinckley, the prophet and revelator of the Mormon Church, has publically DECLARED that the "jesus" of Mormonism and traditional Christianity are NOT the SAME. Let's take a look at the difference between the Mormon "jesus" and the one of Traditional Christianity.

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Originally posted by Marchello
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*["...We believe in the same Jesus that originally walked on the earth and is revealed in the Bible."]

***That is NOT true. You do NOT believe in the SAME Jesus that is revealed in the Bible...and NEITHER does President Hinckley of the LDS Church...to wit: "In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day-Saints 'do NOT believe in the traditional Christ.' 'No, I DON'T. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is NOT the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fullness of Times. He together with His father, appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages.'" [LDS Church News Week ending June 20, 1998, p. 7]

Christians have long maintained that your Church teaches a "jesus" that is DIFFERENT from what the Bible reveals. Of course, you say that he is the SAME Jesus that originally walked on the earth and is revealed in the Bible. Though you make this claim...it is up to you to PROVE it...especially in light of what Mormonism says about God and Jesus.

In the LDS Church, Jesus is a CREATION...the PRODUCT of "relations" between "god" and his "goddess" wife who used to be people from "another world" [Mormon Doctrine by Bruce McConkie, pp. 192,321,516, and 589]. Jesus is the LITERAL "spirit brother" of the DEVIL and of YOU and I [McConkie, pp. 132,589]. Also, in Mormon theology, God has a body of FLESH and BONES [Doctrine & Covenants, 130:22] as does his wife and together they PRODUCE "spirit offspring" in heaven who inhabit HUMAN BODIES on earth.

Very FEW, if any, of your "different" doctrines are found in your Standard Works: the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price. Rather, they are taught by Mormons of high standing: prophets, apostles, members of the 70 Quorum. McConkie, for example, was a member of the 70's Quorum, a very high ranking Mormon and wrote the book, Mormon Doctrine where much of this documentation is taken from.

President Hinckley, the prophet and revelator of the Mormon Church, has publically DECLARED that the "jesus" of Mormonism and traditional Christianity are NOT the SAME. Let's take a look at the difference between the Mormon "jesus" and the one of Traditional Christianity.

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***"Christians" like Marchello have long maintained that "jesus" is DIFFERENT from what the Bible reveals.

***Very FEW, if any, of their doctrines are found in the Bible. They are taught by misinterpretting well-meant fallacists that have been beguiled by the Devil.

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Are mormons those Chocalate sandwich biscuits?

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(A)The Mormon "jesus"
(1)The literal son of "god" and his "goddess" wife bogotten in the pre-existence.
(2)The brother of all spirits born in heaven and in the premortal existence.
(3)One of 3 "gods" in the godhead.
(4)The Trinity is three separate "gods".
(5)First one to receive a spirit body.
(6)Atoned for sin on the cross AND in the garden of Gethsemane.

(B)The Christian Jesus
(1)NOT the literal son of "god" and his "goddess" wife.
(2)NOT the brother of all "spirits" born in heaven in a premortal existence.
(3)NOT one of 3 "gods" in the godhead.
(4)The Trinity is 3 persons in ONE God.
(5)Was ALWAYS spirit from ETERNITY
(6)Atoned for sin on the cross ALONE.

Jesus CANNOT be BOTH literal son of "god" and his "goddess" wife and NOT the literal begotten son. He CANNOT be BOTH one of 3 "gods", and NOT one of 3 "gods." They are DIFFERENT. In fact, it would be a lot easier if the Mormons called him by a different name. For example, Bolok would be good. Bolok is one of three "gods"...but Jesus is NOT, etc. That way, it would be a lot easier to tell them apart.

BOTTOM-LINE: Mormonism definitely does NOT teach the SAME Jesus as Christianity.

Marchello

Originally posted by Marchello
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(A)The Mormon "jesus"
(1)The literal son of "god" and his "goddess" wife bogotten in the pre-existence.
(2)The brother of all spirits born in heaven and in the premortal existence.
(3)One of 3 "gods" in the godhead.
(4)The Trinity is three separate "gods".
(5)First one to receive a spirit body.
(6)Atoned for sin on the cross AND in the garden of Gethsemane.

(B)The Christian Jesus
(1)NOT the literal son of "god" and his "goddess" wife.
(2)NOT the brother of all "spirits" born in heaven in a premortal existence.
(3)NOT one of 3 "gods" in the godhead.
(4)The Trinity is 3 persons in ONE God.
(5)Was ALWAYS spirit from ETERNITY
(6)Atoned for sin on the cross ALONE.

Jesus CANNOT be BOTH literal son of "god" and his "goddess" wife and NOT the literal begotten son. He CANNOT be BOTH one of 3 "gods", and NOT one of 3 "gods." They are DIFFERENT. In fact, it would be a lot easier if the Mormons called him by a different name. For example, Bolok would be good. Bolok is one of three "gods"...but Jesus is NOT, etc. That way, it would be a lot easier to tell them apart.

BOTTOM-LINE: Mormonism definitely does NOT teach the SAME Jesus as Christianity.

Marchello

(B)Marchello's "jesus"
(1)One part of a god in the throws of dissociative identity disorder.

BOTTOM-LINE: The Bible definitely does NOT teach the SAME Jesus as Marchello's "Christianity".

*["We do not believe that Mary had another husband."]

***That is not so...to wit: "The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another husband" [Deseret News, October 10, 1866].

Question: If the Mormon "Mary' had another husband...how could she remain a virgin and then conceive Jesus?

Marchello

That's cuz Mary isn't a Virgin....she's kinky droolio

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That's cuz Mary isn't a Virgin....she's kinky droolio

I think there's More To Mary... then first meets the eyes. 😉