Originally posted by DarkCrawler
If the Flash really ran at the speed of light, you'd find his body about 200 miles away from where the wind sheared his skin off, and he'd have a beachball-sized hole in his chest from where he hit a grasshopper at a zillion billion miles an hour.
the almighty 'speed force' prevents that
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Storm is protected from air friction by her powers and can breathe at any speed according to her bio. However until i can dig up that issue i cant prove conclusively that Storm kept up with the Blackbird i can only say it.
All we know for a fact is that she can travel as fast as any wind possibly can. The fastest recorded so far is 318. Unverified reports claim F6 speeds so thats feasibly 400+ mph if pressed.
Originally posted by stormfront13
yes, up waaaaaaaaaay in the sky, there is really much to dodge
She might get hit by a bird. A plane. Another flying superhero.
Mach 15 is five kilometers per second. I haven't heard about winds like that...
And I think even Silver Surfer can't attain speeds like that in Earth atmosphere.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
She might get hit by a bird. A plane. Another flying superhero.Mach 15 is five kilometers per second. I haven't heard about winds like that...
And I think even Silver Surfer can't attain speeds like that in Earth atmosphere.
she is able to sence anything in the air fom hundreds of miles away. she wouldn't hit anything. silver surfer doesn't control the winds that would hamr the earth. storm does, therefore it makes it possible for her to fly in an earth atmosphere.
the thing about storms flight power is that she can go as fast as winds can travel. plus she has Psionic control over them so if she creates winds that you find in a hyperstorm(hurricane or blizzard the size of a continent) her speeds could be limitless, but she's not regulalry a long range flyer so why would she need to go mach speeds anyway
actually, as i pointed out way back when, they wouldn't be limitless. wind, no matter who's controlling it, is subject to wind resistance. any matter is, unless specifically shielded from it (such as quicksilver.) storm may be able to control winds, and selectively create a slower pocket around herself to breathe, but to push a mass such as hers at speeds wind itself cannot attain is functionally IMPOSSIBLE. even in the marvel sense.
by the way, storm could only "sense" something in the air if she's consciously feeling out the different currents around her. stop this braggart nonsense.
and the silver surfer has the POWER COSMIC. he can fly as fast as he wants to, but speeds much higher than mach 10 have disastrous consequences on the environment itself. ask northstar. i'd say ask cortez, who got zipped across genosha at about mach 11, but he's dead.
and finally, i'd like to point something else out that you misrepresented in a post on the last page. iceman did NOT hide from storm's wind speeds. he hid from the sand being kicked up while storm futilely attacked legion, protecting himself and psylocke from the sandstorm. were the wind not there, he'd have had no reason to hide, and he's also have had no reason to hide were the sand not there. that is not a justifiable boon to storm's powers.
Originally posted by Disappear
actually, as i pointed out way back when, they wouldn't be limitless. wind, no matter who's controlling it, is subject to wind resistance. any matter is, unless specifically shielded from it (such as quicksilver.) storm may be able to control winds, and selectively create a slower pocket around herself to breathe, but to push a mass such as hers at speeds wind itself cannot attain is functionally IMPOSSIBLE. even in the marvel sense.by the way, storm could only "sense" something in the air if she's consciously feeling out the different currents around her. stop this braggart nonsense.
and the silver surfer has the POWER COSMIC. he can fly as fast as he wants to, but speeds much higher than mach 10 have disastrous consequences on the environment itself. ask northstar. i'd say ask cortez, who got zipped across genosha at about mach 11, but he's dead.
and finally, i'd like to point something else out that you misrepresented in a post on the last page. iceman did NOT hide from storm's wind speeds. he hid from the sand being kicked up while storm futilely attacked legion, protecting himself and psylocke from the sandstorm. were the wind not there, he'd have had no reason to hide, and he's also have had no reason to hide were the sand not there. that is not a justifiable boon to storm's powers.
first, you need to realize that nothing is impossible in comics. second, everyone knows that surfer has the power cosmic and can attain any speed, but the difference betwen him and storm is that storm has the ability to calm the winds under her, and protect the earth under her from the winds. it was storms wind that was propelling the sand, too fast for bobby's durability to handle. if the sand wasn't there, he still would have to hide because of the wind speed going around.
no evidence to say bobby needs to hide from storm's wind speeds. it was the combination of the wind speeds, plus small grains of silicon which can strike with a bone-scraping impact (see: dust,) that made him take cover. funny how an ice-wall was able to hold out against the sandstorm, but bobby thought he couldn't. ever-present insecurities within bobby playing a factor? i'd say.
and storm needs to "consciously" be scanning, as i said. you haven't really said anything i didn't say...
and, despite her control over wind, she cannot make it do what it physically CANNOT do. don't try to bring up a narrative box from legion quest to try and prove that wrong, either. storm cannot defy physics, and neither can any aspect of the weather. if you honestly believe storm can make wind do what wind physically cannot, you're either kidding yourself, or your name's chris claremont.
Originally posted by Disappear
no evidence to say bobby needs to hide from storm's wind speeds. it was the combination of the wind speeds, plus small grains of silicon which can strike with a bone-scraping impact (see: dust,) that made him take cover. funny how an ice-wall was able to hold out against the sandstorm, but bobby thought he couldn't. ever-present insecurities within bobby playing a factor? i'd say.and storm needs to "consciously" be scanning, as i said. you haven't really said anything i didn't say...
and, despite her control over wind, she cannot make it do what it physically CANNOT do. don't try to bring up a narrative box from legion quest to try and prove that wrong, either. storm cannot defy physics, and neither can any aspect of the weather. if you honestly believe storm can make wind do what wind physically cannot, you're either kidding yourself, or your name's chris claremont.
not really, she can multi-task while scanning through the wind. your not giving her the credit she deserves. even without the sand it's doubtful boby could have stood up if jeans tk couldn't. and yes, storm bends natures rules. the facts are out in front of you, and you deny it.
Originally posted by GalacticStormOh that's the incident stormfront keeps referring to? The Professor travels from Raf Ruthymere, said to be in the heart of England to Muir Isle which is off the northern coast of Scotland in what I can only guesstimate to be approximately a few minutes. Birmingham to Inverness is around 350 miles. Inverness to Muir Isle would roughly be the same as Inverness to Glasgow so another 110 miles. To travel that distance in five minutes she'd need to fly at around Mach 8. Again it's as ridiculous as her travelling at Mach 15 from New Orleans to New York in minutes. And she's never shown actually flying the distance - it's probably safe to assume she got inside the X-Jet. "No, Storm, you're not allowed in. You have to fly." Said Xavier.
I dont have the issues at hand but In Uncanny X-men just before the whole "Shadow King using Polaris as a nexus thing on Muir Isle" Storm kept up with the blackbird in the air. It was during her short bob phase lol.
Has anyone got it?
When she is shown it's the Professor piloting the jet following her, because she's leading him to the others. It doesn't take great speeds to keep the Blackbird aloft... considering it's capable of vertical thrust. "No, Storm, I won't follow you at your speed, I'm going to go Mach 3 and that's final." Said Xavier.
Originally posted by GalacticStormIt's ridiculous to say that she's immune to friction. She can use her powers to prevent the wind resistance from tearing off her skin and allowing her to breath i.e. as Disappear suggested a pocket of slower air.
Storm is protected from air friction by her powers and can breathe at any speed according to her bio.
Originally posted by stormfront13
she is able to sence anything in the air fom hundreds of miles away. she wouldn't hit anything. silver surfer doesn't control the winds that would hamr the earth. storm does, therefore it makes it possible for her to fly in an earth atmosphere.
"Winds that harm the earth?"
I'm not sure what you are meaning here. Anyway, where it was said that he can sense anything in the air from hundreds of miles away?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Oh that's the incident stormfront keeps referring to? The Professor travels from Raf Ruthymere, said to be in the heart of England to Muir Isle which is off the northern coast of Scotland in what I can only guesstimate to be approximately a few minutes. Birmingham to Inverness is around 350 miles. Inverness to Muir Isle would roughly be the same as Inverness to Glasgow so another 110 miles. To travel that distance in five minutes she'd need to fly at around Mach 8. Again it's as ridiculous as her travelling at Mach 15 from New Orleans to New York in minutes. And she's never shown actually flying the distance - it's probably safe to assume she got inside the X-Jet. "No, Storm, you're not allowed in. You have to fly." Said Xavier.
actually, i have never read that issue, so no it's not the one I'm refering to. but it's another example of where she travels mach speeds. now how many examples is that? another is in extreme wher she travels from texas to rogues california house in a quikck trip with remy, it never specifies how long the trip was, it only states quick. yews, it's not a direct example, but it's still something. also in the same isue, storm travels from california to tokyo in a few hours.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
"Winds that harm the earth?"I'm not sure what you are meaning here. Anyway, where it was said that he can sense anything in the air from hundreds of miles away?
yeah, you know like hurricane winds that harm th eearth? amd she has alwasys been able to sence disurbances through the wind. recently in imprefexts number four she sences the ship through wind disturbance.