Originally posted by soleran30
LOL people people its not like DS hangs with flash at FTL speeds its his first few steps building up the speed.....................read and get off your high horse! DS smokes SM then goes out to get a bite to eat.
Riiiiiight. As if Flash goes below the speed of sound nowadays or is it that IC appearance or shooting Kid Flash's kneecaps again?
Fact of the matter is that it's plain bs. Flash at first few seconds could take Deathstroke along with Spider-man
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Riiiiiight. As if Flash goes below the speed of sound nowadays or is it that IC appearance or shooting Kid Flash's kneecaps again?Fact of the matter is that it's plain bs. Flash at first few seconds could take Deathstroke along with Spider-man
Originally posted by superbatman86
well the comics say otherwise.If he only did it once I'd agree with you but he does it CONSISTANTLY and with other speedsters as well
Exactly how many times has he done it to flash? the only prominent one was on IC when he was already well-versed in the abilities Speedforce grants him, the rest happened when he was a noob to the speedforce or just travelling just along the speed of sound. Tell me just how many post-crisis showings does he have against flash? 2, 3 that's hardly what i call constantly.
But hey Flash's rogue gives him a decent fight, why don't we just say the same about them being able to hang with him just like Slade. It's PIS folks.
Originally posted by long pig
It's not PIS when that's how he was made to be. When that's what his creators say he can do.You just don't want to accept it. That's your problem.
Spiderman gets a hole in his chest about 2 feet side. Slade doesn't just have meta-grenades, he had meta-bullets, too.
Simply because it's plain bs when someone like Flash is downplayed with someone on the level of Slade. And it is PIS no matter how much you try to deny it specially when you yourself commented that he only thinks 10x that of human speed while Kid Flash alone could proves absurdly faster than that. Like I already said, both Spider-man or Flash would fell in nanoseconds to Flash if it was written properly.
You can claim all you want whatever but once again, bullets no matter how much they are strong to penetrate are near useless to someone who can predict right before the bullet leaves the gun and dodge as it's incoming. Even your scans fail you while slade was manhandled by that team or the fact that those guys aren't even on par with Peter.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Simply because it's plain bs when someone like Flash is downplayed with someone on the level of Slade. And it is PIS no matter how much you try to deny it specially when you yourself commented that he only thinks 10x that of human speed while Kid Flash alone could proves absurdly faster than that. Like I already said, both Spider-man or Flash would fell in nanoseconds to Flash if it was written properly.You can claim all you want whatever but once again, bullets no matter how much they are strong to penetrate are near useless to someone who can predict right before the bullet leaves the gun and dodge as it's incoming. Even your scans fail you while slade was manhandled by that team or the fact that those guys aren't even on par with Peter.
By what? If you knew anything about Deathstroke, you would have known already. In truth, I counted on you to point it out, showing you haven't even read his comics. Proving you can't base your claims.
Simply because it's plain bs. And it is PIS no matter how much you try to deny it specially when you yourself commented that he only thinks 10x that of human speed.
286x10= 2,860mph
Can he run that fast? Hell no. Can he react that fast? Yep...as shown countless times.
....Fast enough to hit a cruising Flash with staffs and blades and kicks and punches. Flash cruises somewhere around the speed of sound. So that puts him right there where it's plausable.
Fast enough to hit Spiderman with anything he wants.
Originally posted by long pig
[B]He was weakened....By what? If you knew anything about Deathstroke, you would have known already. In truth, I counted on you to point it out, showing you haven't even read his comics. Proving you can't base your claims.
Or that if you already know he was weakened along with having no bearing in the match, you wouldn't have posted it in the first place only to say that later when it's criticized. And if you read my post again, you should get the impression that I hardly cared and based that on the scans you provided.
His thought and reactions are one. Instantaneous.
Do you know how fast reacting at 10x normal human thought is?
286MPH. http://druniverse.wsu.edu/QandA.asp?questionID=25894286x10= 2,860mph
Can he run that fast? Hell no. Can he react that fast? Yep...as shown countless times.
....Fast enough to hit Flash with staffs and blades and kicks and punches.
Fast enough to hit Spiderman with anything he wants.
*Sigh* You do know that Flash is hellofalot faster than that? right? I won't even bother to oppose what you just said cause it's pretty much clear this his speed is pretty much null and void against the flashes and just helping the argument against Slade's showing.
And no, he's is not still not fast enough to hit Spider-man. In fact, Peter outraced 2 bullet in Friendly Neighboorhood SM just recently but only managed to only catch one since he's just experimenting on what Cap just thought him. 10x speed < 40x that of human reflexes.
*Sigh* You do know that Flash is hellofalot faster than that? right?
And no, he's is not still not fast enough to hit Spider-man.
This is becoming a cock knobber for spiderman similar to how cbr rumbles is.
Spiderman does get hit. And he will get hit.
Originally posted by long pig You do know that Flash has to gain momentum, right? Slade consistently gets speedforcers before they get momentum.
of course he does. For IMP, for dimensional and time travel, etc. His starting speed is just fast enough to hit slade more times than the hairs on his body.
Oh, please.
Take your "Spiderman NAVEAR GETS HIT!!" bullshit somewhere else.This is becoming a cock knobber for spiderman similar to how cbr rumbles is.
Spiderman does get hit. And he will get hit.
And of course, you don't think the same for Slade right? 🤣
Originally posted by long pig
You do know that Flash has to gain momentum, right? Slade consistently gets speedforcers before they get momentum.Oh, please.
Take your "Spiderman NAVEAR GETS HIT!!" bullshit somewhere else.This is becoming a cock knobber for spiderman similar to how cbr rumbles is.
Spiderman does get hit. And he will get hit.
Although i agree with most of your post LP, Flash doesnt really need momentum to go 2,900 mph. He can pretty much do that instantly.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Although i agree with most of your post LP, Flash doesnt really need momentum to go 2,900 mph. He can pretty much do that instantly.
He's just a really, really inconsistent character outside his own comic(for obvious reasons).
But, that's not the point at all....this is a bit of a red herring.
The point is Slade has the powerset and equipment to hit people/things moving faster than Spiderman could move. He's shown to be capable to hit people moving faster than Spiderman in multiple comics.
That's all that is needed here.
Spiderman will get hit here. As would Slade.
Which brings us back to the same thing I say everytime this comes up. Stalemate with both K.O'd, but Spiderman can't heal being blown in half.
Originally posted by long pig
Although I'm sure there's random events that show this(I know of a good few), there are also random events that show otherwise.He's just a really, really inconsistent character outside his own comic(for obvious reasons).
But, that's not the point at all....this is a bit of a red herring.
The point is Slade has the powerset and equipment to hit people/things moving faster than Spiderman could move. He's shown to be capable to hit people moving faster than Spiderman in multiple comics.
That's all that is needed here.Spiderman will get hit here. As would Slade.
Which brings us back to the same thing I say everytime this comes up. Stalemate with both K.O'd, but Spiderman can't heal being blown in half.
Youre right sir.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
*sigh* I would've agreed with that if only it was a fight based on normal portrayals just like i've said and not bloodlusted. Same with the faster characters Slade has tagged.
All that is said is Slade has indeed hit multiple versions of Flashes, more than once, while they were going faster than Spiderman could ever dream of. That's all that matters, because it destroys the idea of "Spiderman is too fast to be hit by Slade.".
What it does show is the two being relatively comparable in fight/reaction speed. And with Slade having his uber weapons and gadgets PLUS superior healing and durability. It would seem to reason that it'd end in something akin to a stalemate.
I didnt read the last few posts by you guys but Slade wasn't really weakened in those posts that log pig posted, he was pretending to be. He got caught in an explotion and the doctor said he was really, really hurt and it robbed him of his powers but it was latter found out that DS owned the hospital and he was just setting it up so that Pam and Wintergreen thought he was dead.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I didnt read the last few posts by you guys but Slade wasn't really weakened in those posts that log pig posted, he was pretending to be. He got caught in an explotion and the doctor said he was really, really hurt and it robbed him of his powers but it was latter found out that DS owned the hospital and he was just setting it up so that Pam and Wintergreen thought he was dead.