Originally posted by Sixth_WingedSame thing w/Slade being downplayed so Batman can look formidable or Spidey getting hit by Kingpin back in the day. Flash would simply speedbeat Spidey and Slade @ the same time. They'd both be on the on the floor before their next heartbeat. Spidey wins this. He outclasses Slade on a much smaller scale than Flash does.
Simply because it's plain bs when someone like Flash is downplayed with someone on the level of Slade.
Originally posted by long pigFlash is no precog. Slade still shouldn't be able to hit Flash though. If Spidey didn't have the precog, Slade would probably take this. Spidey does have it though, so Slade loses by getting webbed and KOed.
He was weakened....By what? If you knew anything about Deathstroke, you would have known already. In truth, I counted on you to point it out, showing you haven't even read his comics. Proving you can't base your claims.
His thought and reactions are one. Instantaneous.
Do you know how fast reacting at 10x normal human thought is?
286MPH. http://druniverse.wsu.edu/QandA.asp?questionID=25894286x10= 2,860mph
Can he run that fast? Hell no. Can he react that fast? Yep...as shown countless times.
....Fast enough to hit a cruising Flash with staffs and blades and kicks and punches. Flash cruises somewhere around the speed of sound. So that puts him right there where it's plausable.
Fast enough to hit Spiderman with anything he wants.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Flash is no precog. Slade still shouldn't be able to hit Flash though. If Spidey didn't have the precog, Slade would probably take this. Spidey does have it though, so Slade loses by getting webbed and KOed.
If this fight happened 10 times in a row, with each fighter 100% recouped afterwards, the first fight Slade would lose to Peter's spidey sense. The second fight he'd have already figured out a way to counter it.
I mean, it isn't like Slade is new to people who have pre-cog. He teaches his daughter how to fully use hers.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey wins this. He outclasses Slade on a much smaller scale than Flash does.
Exactly. His advantages aren't huge ones. Both of them can lift a couple tons. Spiderman is stronger, but not really by a lot. 2, 3 times at the most. (by comparison, he is 25x stronger than Daredevil or Wolverine...) He's faster, but again, not by all that much. While hitting just going and punching Flash would be PIS, Slade always tricks Wally and hits him while Flash is trying to do something else. The heart of the matter is, Slade is FAST. Not Flash fast, but fast enough to at least register that he's fighting Flash before Flash beats him up. I think him beating Impulse isn't so far fetched, when you see it happen. Impulse hits him a bunch of times, Slade predicts a shot and grabs his leg. It wasn't like he backflipped over Impulse and ninja death touched him before Bart could react... He was just fast enough to register his movements and implement his fighting skills. Spidey probably still edges him, but not by a lot.
Now, you look at Slade's advantages. Intelligence. Slade is a master tactician. Spiderman specializes in science... Fighting skills. Slade is up there with the elite of DC. He's at least Batman level, if not a good deal higher. Spiderman has a lot of trouble with good fighters who are HUMAN physically. Deathstroke is far from human. Slade's weaponry far outclasses Spiderman's. Exploding bullets, meta grenades, Promethium nets, promethium staff/sword... And he knows how to use them. Spiderman has trouble with people skilled in the use of fists. the fact that Slade uses a sword makes him that much more deadly.
All in all, I think Spiderman's rather slim physical advantages get surpassed by Deathstroke's mind and skills, both being things that give Spiderman a lot of trouble.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
All i can say Slade is only taking a majority over the fight as long as it's based on normal portrayals and Spider-man is really susceptible to jobbing.if not......
"slade didn't you have a train to catch?"
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
All that i can say about this match is Slade would only be taking a majority over the fight as long as it's based on normal portrayals and Spider-man is really susceptible to jobbing.if not......
"slade, didn't you say you have a train to catch?"
Is Spidey mind controlled in that pic?
Originally posted by long pig
Slade could blow that train into nothingness.Spiderman can only pick it up or put a few dents in it.
"slade, didn't you say you have a train to -BLAM!!!- " Dead spidey.
or that could've happen when his lights are punched out. Either way, slade hasn't matched anything of the feat strengthwise to say the margin is that slim.
"Finally your laying on your back punk. Let's put the finishing touches shall we?
*earlier quote*"
Originally posted by long pig-edit- Er..I had forgotten why I uploaded these...
This is the costume he had that we were talking about, silverspider. Much better than the old one.
😂 That DEFINITELY needs to go on the "owned" thread. 😂
Oh, and when really pissed off, Spiderman tends to act... dumbassish. He fights much better when cracking jokes and such. When he's pissed, his offense goes up, but he dodges a lot less, which is what makes him good in the first place. Ideally, he should fight defensive, but still hit as hard as he can. A combo of the two, if you will.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
or that could've happen when his lights are punched out. Either way, slade hasn't matched anything of the feat strengthwise to say the margin is that slim."Finally your laying on your back punk. Let's put the finishing touches shall we?
*earlier quote*"
Peter can punch hard, so what. Slade can too, but with 10x the skill.
Peter can lift a small train, so what. Slade can blow it away with one grenade.
It's one of those things where if Slade connected with one of his weapons, he pretty much wins. If you're betting your farm that Spiderman can dodge forever and never, ever get hit by anything....well, I can't help you.
Originally posted by Dizzle
😂 That DEFINITELY needs to go on the "owned" thread. 😂Oh, and when really pissed off, Spiderman tends to act... dumbassish. He fights much better when cracking jokes and such. When he's pissed, his offense goes up, but he dodges a lot less, which is what makes him good in the first place. Ideally, he should fight defensive, but still hit as hard as he can. A combo of the two, if you will.
Fighting to the best of his abilities? Uhhhmmm...Why would he act stupid again?. And if you see the scan a while ago, you'll see the confession of him using just a fraction of his strength against his past encounters. Now you posted a while ago that streetlevellers who are human physically that can hang with him, I think that pretty much covers it.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Fighting to the best of his abilities? Uhhhmmm...Why would he act stupid again?. And if you see the scan a while ago, you'll see the confession of him using just a fraction of his strength against his past encounters. Now you posted a while ago that streetlevellers who are human physically that can hang with him, I think that pretty much covers it.
Fighting to the fullest for Spiderman still means fighting to the fullest that he possibly can while still being Spiderman. He's not cut out for it, he lets his rage take over and he acts dumb.
CIS is off, but giving a character more ability to control their emotions than they have ever displayed is too much.
Originally posted by long pig
Eh?
Slade's weapons more than make up for Peter's slight strength advantage.Peter can punch hard, so what. Slade can too, but with 10x the skill.
Peter can lift a small train, so what. Slade can blow it away with one grenade.It's one of those things where if Slade connected with one of his weapons, he pretty much wins. If you're betting your farm that Spiderman can dodge forever and never, ever get hit by anything....well, I can't help you.
Now why would he just stand there and receive Slade's attack considering he is 4x faster than he is?
slade can punch hard, does that mean it would affect Spider-man considering he is 1/3 of his average strength depiction. Spider-man bloodlusted has been punched by Carrion 2 who upon contact repels organic matter or hulk that got angry out of his wisecracks. He recovered and against people many times over bested them physically.
Spider-man doesn't have to dodge forever. He could blitz like the scans i provided showed. Even slade isn't durable enough to withstand that beating. Sure he would heal, but he can be ko'ed.
Originally posted by long pig
It's a good thing Slade is super human physically.Fighting to the fullest for Spiderman still means fighting to the fullest that he possibly can while still being Spiderman. He's not cut out for it, he lets his rage take over and he acts dumb.
CIS is off, but giving a character more ability to control their emotions than they have ever displayed is too much.
nope, it didn't say he was angry or any emotions conflicting his thoughts. The only time Spider-man has acted dumb when those things interfere. There's no rage here, just Spider-man fighting the best way he can.
