Originally posted by who?-kid
If Slade can hit Flash, so can Spider-Man. Discussion closed.
Slade has spent his whole career fighting speeders and such, Spiderman fights slow, slow, dumb, dumb bricks.
I doubt Spiderman could hit Flash or KF. He's probably fast enough, but not smart enough to think ahead and calculate the next move.
Originally posted by long pigNot to mention he's worked with/led a host of them. He knows what they're capable of.
Possibly, but Spiderman isn't as smart or trained to handle speedsters as Slade.Slade has spent his whole career fighting speeders and such, Spiderman fights slow, slow, dumb, dumb bricks.
I doubt Spiderman could hit Flash or KF. He's probably fast enough, but not smart enough to think ahead and calculate the next move.
Originally posted by long pig
Possibly, but Spiderman isn't as smart or trained to handle speedsters as Slade.Slade has spent his whole career fighting speeders and such, Spiderman fights slow, slow, dumb, dumb bricks.
I doubt Spiderman could hit Flash or KF. He's probably fast enough, but not smart enough to think ahead and calculate the next move.
Most of Spider-man's opponents and enemies he fought on occassions in the battlefield have considerable speeds as well. Quicksilver, Mongoose, Speed-demon, Scorpion, GG, HG, Electro(lightning bolts), Venom, Morlun, etc. His rogue galleries balances out his minor opponents.
And I disagree with Slade fighting speedsters his whole career as well cause he often goes checking speedlevellers and bricks.
But for goodness sakes, could we now stop on his Flash feats. It's been thrown out a lot lately and the argument against it is outweighing the argument for it. Name any other feats he have w/o them being assosciated to the JLA big 7 and anyone with the word flash on their title and we'll talk from there.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Most of Spider-man's opponents and enemies he fought on occassions in the battlefield have considerable speeds as well. Quicksilver, Mongoose, Speed-demon, Scorpion, GG, HG, Electro(lightning bolts), Venom, Morlun, etc. His rogue galleries balances out his minor opponents.And I disagree with Slade fighting speedsters his whole career as well cause he often goes checking speedlevellers and bricks.
But for goodness sakes, could we now stop on his Flash feats. It's been thrown out a lot lately and the argument against it is outweighing the argument for it. Name any other feats he have w/o them being assosciated to the JLA big 7 and anyone with the word flash on their title and we'll talk from there.
Name any other feats he have w/o them being assosciated to the JLA big 7 and anyone with the word flash on their title and we'll talk from there.
Ok.
Name any feat Spiderman has ever had that doesn't contain the words "spider" "sense" or ever happened in any comic he's ever appeared in.
Deal? Go!
Originally posted by long pigHow many does Slade carry?
Pre-cog can be overwhelmed by grenades.
Originally posted by long pigSpidey's is on "automatic". Is hers?
If this fight happened 10 times in a row, with each fighter 100% recouped afterwards, the first fight Slade would lose to Peter's spidey sense. The second fight he'd have already figured out a way to counter it.I mean, it isn't like Slade is new to people who have pre-cog. He teaches his daughter how to fully use hers.
Originally posted by brainchild81
How many does Slade carry?
Spidey's is on "automatic". Is hers?
Does Rose's power work auto matically? Yes. Her pre-cog is way better than Spiderman's.
She actually sees exactly what and when and where the attack happens a second before it happens.
Slade teaches her how to use it better. He is no newbie to pre-cog.
At first, it'd work for SM. But, the second round Slade would already have figured it out.
Just think of Slade as Wolverine, but stronger/faster/smarter and with long range weapons.
Originally posted by superbatman86
You can't ingore it when it gives absolute concrete proof that spider-man isn't faster slade.You keep dismissing it because it completely wreaks your argument that sp is to fast to hit.
Or probably because it's such a monumental loss of logic it would be absurd to accept it.
Look here's the thing.
-Deathstroke can't catch Flash without PIS
-neither can Spider-man
-neither can any other character who don't even begin to approach lightspeed when he is written properly.
-You must know that he also often caught by his rogues. We call that SMvFl too.
Anyone who bothers to disagree can think whatever they want, but the fact that it's plain bs won't change.
Originally posted by brainchild81
I'm not sure that can be "taught". That's what I meant by "automatic". Has Slade ever encountered anybody w/precog and abilities similar to Spidey's?
He hasn't. They keep dodging that q. The closest he fought are body movement readers....which btw he got owned by one or other people whose speed he shouldn't even begin to compare.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Or probably because it's such a monumental loss of logic it would be absurd to accept it.Look here's the thing.
-Deathstroke can't catch Flash without PIS
-neither can Spider-man
-neither can any other character who don't even begin to approach lightspeed when he is written properly.
-You must know that he also often caught by his rogues. We call that SMvFl too.Anyone who bothers to disagree can think whatever they want, but the fact that it's plain bs won't change.
Originally posted by superbatman86
Well if the character has been beating the hell out of speedsters for over 20 years owns the Flash every time they've ever fought since wally was a kid it's not illogical.And the fact that YOU thinks it's bs doesn't change the fact that this was the the way the character was made.Slade is the super-powered no-holding back equivilant of Batman.He was made to be so badass that even when he's outclassed in physical abilities his mental ones are able to beat stronger oponents.
and you think the fact that slade is comparable to a superpowered batman or that he's badass changes anything? 10x speed batman still really doesn't hold a candle against him.
Flash was caught by Slade during his earlier career cause he is monumentally slower than he is now. Not only that but earlier the PIS in pre-crisis DC is quite all-around. But hey, if you can give me an example of him catching him around that time, i'll probably look at it and analyze. After Post-crisis when he began to resume, his speed has been downgraded to being only as fast as the speed of sound for a period of time. That would probably be the only time logically that Slade could catch him. After that we all know how Wally developed to become as uber as he is now. By this time, anything Slade can do who is merely 10x the speed of the normal human along with it's thought process is BS imo and the opinion of most people who bother to read flash and not see the player downgraded due to plot stupidity.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
and you think the fact that slade is comparable to a superpowered batman or that he's badass changes anything? 10x speed batman still really doesn't hold a candle against him.Flash was caught by Slade during his earlier career cause he is monumentally slower than he is now. Not only that but earlier the PIS in pre-crisis DC is quite all-around. But hey, if you can give me an example of him catching him around that time, i'll probably look at it and analyze. After Post-crisis when he began to resume, his speed has been downgraded to being only as fast as the speed of sound for a period of time. That would probably be the only time logically that Slade could catch him. After that we all know how Wally developed to become as uber as he is now. By this time, anything Slade can do who is merely 10x the speed of the normal human along with it's thought process is BS imo and the opinion of most people who bother to read flash and not see the player downgraded due to plot stupidity.