Marvel Women vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by leonidas
i love ww, but i don't think she takes them -- at least not the majority. iw's shield has resisted hulk and thor. ww would need to work to get through it. she may be able to resist the psychic attacks, but they would likely still hurt her or give her pause. a combination attack by shehulk and storm as well as sue would certainly hurt her, probably enough for the group to finish it off. i think sue is the proverbial fly in ww's ointment here.

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You are correct...

WW is going down too many... too powerful...

From Wonder Woman respect thread...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=362733&highlight=Respect+Wonder+woman

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She did catch Jesse Quick with her lasso:

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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
From Wonder Woman respect thread...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=362733&highlight=Respect+Wonder+woman

http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img34&image=JLA43pg09.jpg

She did catch Jesse Quick with her lasso:

http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img199&image=wwropesjessie19hj.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img199&image=wwropesjessie25fd.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img199&image=wwropesjessie35ra.jpg

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http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla43pg078pu.jpg

Thanks, DarkCrawler. Those were some of the scans I was talking about.

Wonder Woman can take out all of them before any thoughts are processed.

those lightspeed scans were in space. the scan where she's racing flash they weren't moving very quickly, relatively speaking. probably around quicksilver speed.

doesn't rogue have superspeed a la quicksilver? based on what i've seen of ww on earth, that would be enough speed to avoid her. if she DID take sue out first (a possibility no doubt seeing as how quicksilver gave the ff some trouble in the past) the time it took would still give the others a chance to attack. the psy attacks would slow her down, the others would pile on. even all together there is no guarantee they win, but i think they win the majority. shulkie is in herc's class (apparently) and the others are very powerful.

besides, (no offense mm) speedblitzes are so utterly ridiculous and unrealistic -- she would never in a million issues use an attack that would wipe them all out before they could 'think'. i WISH the mods would install a 'no speedblitz' rule in this forum. make debates a lot better.

Originally posted by leonidas
those lightspeed scans were in space. the scan where she's racing flash they weren't moving very quickly, relatively speaking. probably around quicksilver speed.

doesn't rogue have superspeed a la quicksilver? based on what i've seen of ww on earth, that would be enough speed to avoid her. if she DID take sue out first (a possibility no doubt seeing as how quicksilver gave the ff some trouble in the past) the time it took would still give the others a chance to attack. the psy attacks would slow her down, the others would pile on. even all together there is no guarantee they win, but i think they win the majority. shulkie is in herc's class (apparently) and the others are very powerful.

besides, (no offense mm) speedblitzes are so utterly ridiculous and unrealistic -- she would never in a million issues use an attack that would wipe them all out before they could 'think'. i WISH the mods would install a 'no speedblitz' rule in this forum. make debates a lot better.

Believe me, I hate the speedblitz, too. But while it's an option, well, I guess it should be used until a mod decides not to.

Like Flash, for example. He's my favorite DC character, but you can't put him up against anyone who's slower than him or doesn't have the necessary durability to withstand him.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Believe me, I hate the speedblitz, too. But while it's an option, well, I guess it should be used until a mod decides not to.

Like Flash, for example. He's my favorite DC character, but you can't put him up against anyone who's slower than him or doesn't have the necessary durability to withstand him.

So are bubbles in the brain, heart and lungs from IW... But most of the DC and X-lovers act as if it's laughable tactic.

She has used it in the past... So she can... and will use it again.

Like it or not.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
So are bubbles in the brain, heart and lungs from IW... But most of the DC and X-lovers act as if it's laughable tactic.

She has used it in the past... So she can... and will use it again.

Like it or not.

Won't work. Her insides are as tough as her outsides. Not to mention WW will be moving WAY too fast for IW to get a decent bead on her. The last one standing WILL be IW though.

whose powers does current rogue have the opportunity to call upon?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not all of the speedsters run at the speed of light MM. Heres a lil snippet from starnet:

Superhuman Reflexes: Wonder Woman possesses reflex abilities similar to lower-level speedsters such as Jesse Quick and Max Mercury, somewhere in the range of 8 to 20 times normal human reflexes with concentration. She, however, does not maintain her enhanced speed awareness due to the temporal difficulties such thinking causes her. She seems able to keep up with Jesse Quick, referencing her patron diety of speed and messenger of the gods, Hermes as the source of her powers.

Superspeed: It is unknown how long she can maintain a speedsterÕs average pace (which we clock at approximately 125 mph (2.08 miles/second) to 200 mph (3.3 mile/sec) innercity and 225 mph (3.75 miles/sec) to 500 mph (8.3 miles/sec) over land outside of cities). Since Wonder Woman lacks the speed aura of true speedsters, the environmental effects/disruptions that she causes probably prevent her from utilizing superspeed mobility as a common mode of travel. With bracers forged by Hephastes, Wonder Woman boosts her resistance to injury with her near-indestructible bracers. She is able to deflect attacks that might otherwise cause her considerable injury but she can only deflect attacks she is aware of.

Flight: Wonder Woman is capable of unassisted flight through an as yet unknown but probably magical means. She has been clocked at Mach 3 (2,100 mph, 35 miles per second) in flight and can be presumed to be much faster if she wanted to be. No reliable ceiling is known but atmospheric distubances occur at speeds greater than Mach 10 (7,000 mph, 116 miles/sec) so that is probably her limit in atmosphere as well. Her aerial manuevability is not as developed as aerial combatants such as Hawkman or the Black Condor, but she is a relatively capable aerial combatant as well.

So there you have it. The top flight speed she has pulled off is mach 3 and its presumed she can fly faster but as she has never done so on panel thats speculation and cant be used in battle scenarios here.

This is a highly inaccurate source. I admit I have used this many times in the past, when I was a KMC novice, but this source is completely and utterly wrong in ALOT of aspects. For one, MM and WW are listed as only Class 90. That tells you something right there. Also the site was written by a former Handbook author that futilely tried to put DC characters in a lowed standing. Characters like the Flash can only go at 200 mph at jogging pace according to the jackass who wrote this source. Superman can only lift 200,000 tons maximum before collapsing. MM can only lift 25 tons at most...

This site is a VERY faulty source. JUST like the Handbooks. Again with the double standards...

Originally posted by leonidas
whose powers does current rogue have the opportunity to call upon?

Sunfire. That'll help alot. 😆

Thanks Draco for setting the record straight WW kicks a**

I thought that WW was immune to telepathy? Draco isn't that true?

Yes. Apparently everyone has forgotten in a space of only three days...

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I knew that that's why I put in Psylocke and Emma so you could prove them wrong.........

<<Sunfire. That'll help alot. >>

SUNFIRE!!??
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i thought someone claimed she could now call upon the powers of all those she had absorbed in the past?? what the -- ??

WW wins and so fast it isn't even funny and if Emma or Psylocke attempt to use their tp it'll backlash on them.

A speedblitz isn't just about speed it's about reflexes and reaction time. No one on the list even comes close. Sage is probably the best bet to even be able to react due to her cyberpathic mind and complete control of her movements. Even at Mach 3 Wonder Woman would be moving at over 1000 m/s. A speedblitz should take down everybody with human durability before they even have time to react.

Exactly.

yep

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats speculation DC. Post some scans of WW resisting telepaths.

Also WW may be able to hold her breath for hours but she wouldnt be able to do so whilst being attacked.

Don't know if anyone else gave you a decent answer yet, GS, so I figured I would.