Marvel Women vs Wonder Woman

Started by Tony Stark8 pages
Originally posted by Draco69
Won't work. Her insides are as tough as her outsides. Not to mention WW will be moving WAY too fast for IW to get a decent bead on her. The last one standing WILL be IW though.

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So now your saying that Sue can't enlarge a force field inside of WW because her insides are to strong...

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And all sue needs to do is see WW to do any of those things...

WW doesn't move that fast...

WW is dead if Sue wants her to be...

Please don't post in my threads............... 😈 😂

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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So now your saying that Sue can't enlarge a force field inside of WW because her insides are to strong...

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And all sue needs to do is see WW to do any of those things...

WW doesn't move that fast...

WW is dead if Sue wants her to be...

WW doesn't move that fast?

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You're right. Wonder Woman is far too slow to handle this team.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
WW doesn't move that fast?

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You're right. Wonder Woman is far too slow to handle this team.

I'm pretty sure he says what he says to be annoying..........so it's probably best to ignore his opinion.....

Originally posted by LethalFemme
I'm pretty sure he says what he says to be annoying..........so it's probably best to ignore his opinion.....

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Who's opinion should be ignored...?

Have you ever heard of reverse-sexism... Thats how most all of your posts read when a woman is a characters in the threads.

The woman characters don't get enough respect...

Not true...

It's not that the women characters don't get the respect that they're do...

They do...

It's just that alot of the women characters are crap...

Not that they don't have the potental to be great characters some of them that is...

It's that Marvel and DC don't put forth the effort to make them better because the readers aren't there for them in comparison to the male characters.

In that same breath there are some very good woman characters too...

But most of your posts when there is a woman character in the thread is like your just sticking up for the woman character just because your a woman also... And a us chicks need to stick together thing...

It ends up being blah...blah...blah...

And to my comment about WW not being that fast...

I'm saying she is not faster than what the human eye can see... She's not Flash or Gladiator... not even close.

So that being said if Sue can see her she can kill her if she wants to...

And with the other gals from Marvel in the fight too she will be standing still at some point during the fight...

Because she will be knocked on her ass more than once...

WW is dead...

ps. If you want women characters to get more respect in the comic world tell more of your friends (girls) to buy and read comics maybe Marvel/DC will try a little harder with them.

...Did you not even click the links I countered you with, Tony?

Clearly not.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Who's opinion should be ignored...?

Have you ever heard of reverse-sexism... Thats how most all of your posts read when a woman is a characters in the threads.

The woman characters don't get enough respect...

Not true...

It's not that the women characters don't get the respect that they're do...

They do...

It's just that alot of the women characters are crap...

Not that they don't have the potental to be great characters some of them that is...

It's that Marvel and DC don't put forth the effort to make them better because the readers aren't there for them in comparison to the male characters.

In that same breath there are some very good woman characters too...

But most of your posts when there is a woman character in the thread is like your just sticking up for the woman character just because your a woman also... And a us chicks need to stick together thing...

It ends up being blah...blah...blah...

And to my comment about WW not being that fast...

I'm saying she is not faster than what the human eye can see... She's not Flash or Gladiator... not even close.

So that being said if Sue can see her she can kill her if she wants to...

And with the other gals from Marvel in the fight too she will be standing still at some point during the fight...

Because she will be knocked on her ass more than once...

WW is dead...

ps. If you want women characters to get more respect in the comic world tell more of your friends (girls) to buy and read comics maybe Marvel/DC will try a little harder with them.

All the people in this are women and I only complain about WW needing more respect when she's in threads people seem to completely forget her feats and strengths because she is a woman.............and it's already been posted why WW would win this so maybe YOU should read a little more carefully and not get overwhelmed or excited when it comes to replying when more than one character or the Thing is involved.

Originally posted by LethalFemme
All the people in this are women and I only complain about WW needing more respect when she's in threads people seem to completely forget her feats and strengths because she is a woman.............and it's already been posted why WW would win this so maybe YOU should read a little more carefully and not get overwhelmed or excited when it comes to replying when more than one character or the Thing is involved.

You mean that someones OPINION has been posted on why WW would win.

Just like mine and some others OPINION is that she would lose and or die...

That must mean that both parties are right because it's been posted right?

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And ooooooooooooo... yyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaa... I'm tooooooo excited to think and type at the same time.

By the way WW still dies... And your still touching yourself...

Wonder if theres any correlation?

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Originally posted by Tony Stark
You mean that someones OPINION has been posted on why WW would win.

Just like mine and some others OPINION is that she would lose and or die...

That must mean that both parties are right because it's been posted right?

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And ooooooooooooo... yyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaa... I'm tooooooo excited to think and type at the same time.

By the way WW still dies... And your still touching yourself...

Wonder if theres any correlation?

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guy you have like zero cred cause you're the same person who said WW would have a hard time with the stupid Thing 🙄

and please explain just exactly how she would die.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not all of the speedsters run at the speed of light MM. Heres a lil snippet from starnet:

Superhuman Reflexes: Wonder Woman possesses reflex abilities similar to lower-level speedsters such as Jesse Quick and Max Mercury, somewhere in the range of 8 to 20 times normal human reflexes with concentration. She, however, does not maintain her enhanced speed awareness due to the temporal difficulties such thinking causes her. She seems able to keep up with Jesse Quick, referencing her patron diety of speed and messenger of the gods, Hermes as the source of her powers.

Superspeed: It is unknown how long she can maintain a speedsterÕs average pace (which we clock at approximately 125 mph (2.08 miles/second) to 200 mph (3.3 mile/sec) innercity and 225 mph (3.75 miles/sec) to 500 mph (8.3 miles/sec) over land outside of cities). Since Wonder Woman lacks the speed aura of true speedsters, the environmental effects/disruptions that she causes probably prevent her from utilizing superspeed mobility as a common mode of travel. With bracers forged by Hephastes, Wonder Woman boosts her resistance to injury with her near-indestructible bracers. She is able to deflect attacks that might otherwise cause her considerable injury but she can only deflect attacks she is aware of.

Flight: Wonder Woman is capable of unassisted flight through an as yet unknown but probably magical means. She has been clocked at Mach 3 (2,100 mph, 35 miles per second) in flight and can be presumed to be much faster if she wanted to be. No reliable ceiling is known but atmospheric distubances occur at speeds greater than Mach 10 (7,000 mph, 116 miles/sec) so that is probably her limit in atmosphere as well. Her aerial manuevability is not as developed as aerial combatants such as Hawkman or the Black Condor, but she is a relatively capable aerial combatant as well.

So there you have it. The top flight speed she has pulled off is mach 3 and its presumed she can fly faster but as she has never done so on panel thats speculation and cant be used in battle scenarios here.

Mathematical correction: all those "miles per seconds" figures noted above are really Miles Per Minute (kindly do the math). I've seen this error many times on quite a few sites and posts. If you wanna know her "mps" speeds, divide by another 60 (eg: Mach 10 equals 7000 mph equals 116 miles per minute equals 1.9 miles per second).

Originally posted by Mindship
Mathematical correction: all those "miles per seconds" figures noted above are really Miles Per Minute (kindly do the math). I've seen this error many times on quite a few sites and posts. If you wanna know her "mps" speeds, divide by another 60 (eg: Mach 10 equals 7000 mph equals 116 miles per minute equals 1.9 miles per second).

Which just goes to prove that WW is indeed fast enough to beat all of them before they knew how to react.

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Which just goes to prove that WW is indeed fast enough to beat all of them before they knew how to react.

Not necessarily. The outcome depends on the environment and how far apart they start from each other. In a cityscape her speed would be severely hindered for example. Also while speed of thought is slower than the speeds WW can travel at electrical impulses have millimetres/centimetres to travel so those with psionic based powers could arguably think before WW could take them out. Psylocke and IW with a thought could erect protective shields, Emma Frost with a thought would be in diamond form. It would take time to take anyone of those women out if they had a chance to do those thing , allowing the others to lend a hand. Just a thought.

According to some sites, nerve impulses can travel as fast as 400 feet per second...less than Mach 0.5. So unless her opponents have amped nerve impulses, WW will indeed literally strike before they know what's hitting them.

Related topic - Which is more powerful: Godwave or Phoenix Force? Or are they just the same thing with different names cuz of different universes?

Originally posted by Mindship
According to some sites, nerve impulses can travel as fast as 400 feet per second...less than Mach 0.5. So unless her opponents have amped nerve impulses, WW will indeed literally strike before they know what's hitting them.

Even though those impulses have millimetres, centimetres to travel at the most in comparison to the (possibly, dependent on threadmaker) hundreds of feet WW would have to travel? Id say thats debatable.

Originally posted by Mindship
Related topic - Which is more powerful: Godwave or Phoenix Force? Or are they just the same thing with different names cuz of different universes?

Phoenix would equal the Source. Godwave is below or at least derived from the Source is it not so it would be below the Phoenix.

Originally posted by Mindship
According to some sites, nerve impulses can travel as fast as 400 feet per second...less than Mach 0.5. So unless her opponents have amped nerve impulses, WW will indeed literally strike before they know what's hitting them.

Related topic - Which is more powerful: Godwave or Phoenix Force? Or are they just the same thing with different names cuz of different universes?

I believe the new term is Reedforce or Richardswave...

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And by the way WW would have start running so she would not be at whatever her full speed at to begin with.

And she is not able to fight at those high top speeds either...

IW and Emma would be able to react...

ie... Bubble in the brain expanding WW dead...

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Even though those impulses have millimetres, centimetres to travel at the most in comparison to the (possibly, dependent on threadmaker) hundreds of feet WW would have to travel? Id say thats debatable.

Phoenix would equal the Source. Godwave is below or at least derived from the Source is it not so it would be below the Phoenix.

The shields may work but, not for long and I doubt they could put WW down before she'd do it to them.

On the phoenix force and godwave although I could have sworn the godwave was the source but, in any case thanks for your thoughts. 😉

The GodWave is a small (well so to speak) fragment of the Source. It is a part of the part of the whole.

And for all we know Phoenix may also be derived of the Source like the Godwave.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Even though those impulses have millimetres, centimetres to travel at the most in comparison to the (possibly, dependent on threadmaker) hundreds of feet WW would have to travel? Id say thats debatable.

Good point. So lemme take out my Calculator Which Imposes Real Numbers onto the Comic World...

Given let's say an "average" neural distance of 1 centimeter, a nerve impulse could cover that in about 1/12,000th of a second.

For Diana to throw a punch which will connect before her opponents could react (let's say she's toe-to-toe, so we're talking a distance of maybe 2 feet); to cover 2 feet in 1/12,000 of a second (actually, a lil' faster), her fist would have to be moving at least Mach 21.

Do-able? WW gonna have to hustle her star-spangled booty, even faster if she's beyond arm's reach.

Originally posted by Mindship
Good point. So lemme take out my Calculator Which Imposes Real Numbers onto the Comic World...

Given let's say an "average" neural distance of 1 centimeter, a nerve impulse could cover that in about 1/12,000th of a second.

For Diana to throw a punch which will connect before her opponents could react (let's say she's toe-to-toe, so we're talking a distance of maybe 2 feet); to cover 2 feet in 1/12,000 of a second (actually, a lil' faster), her fist would have to be moving at least Mach 21.

Do-able? WW gonna have to hustle her star-spangled booty, even faster if she's beyond arm's reach.

Thanks for that. So until we have conclusive proof that in an earth like atmosphere Wonder Woman can move faster than those speeds listed from that site then it looks like the heroes with psi based powers will be able to react before theyre taken out.