Marvel Women vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Fine since there doesn't seem to be away to distance them without giving someone the upper hand I'll do it like this. All the Marvel women are informed they will be fighting an enemy and they will be a team. They will have no knowledge of WW what so ever. WW is informed she will be fighting these women and is also given no knowledge of them at all. Then they are all instantly transported in the danger room all scattered about so WW can't speedblitz them all at once and IW and Psylocke can't just instantly surround everyone with a shield.

Also for those of you who may be having trouble regarding prep. This is instantaneous no one has a Chance to react or use powers until they're in the danger room so IW can't and won't be Invisible no one will be flying,etc.

Let's say this danger room has a diameter of a football field: 300 feet (this is way bigger than X-men's danger room, no?). That gives it a perimeter of about 1000 feet. Anyone capable of, say, a Mach 100 attack speed (that's over 100 feet per millisecond), is gonna be able to zip around that perimeter in about 1/100 of a second.

Know the expression "in the blink of an eye?" That takes 1/10 of a second. This means Wonder Woman (granted a Mach 100 attack speed), can zip around the perimeter of this danger room in 1/10 the time it takes to blink an eye.

Can her opponents - even if spaced out evenly around the danger room's perimeter - react within this time frame? My first impression: I don't think so.

What Diana may do - to her detriment, since she has no foreknowledge of her opponents - is pause before attacking, trying to gauge what her opponents are about. If she does this, then she could well have her work cut out for her.

Originally posted by Mindship
Let's say this danger room has a diameter of a football field: 300 feet (this is way bigger than X-men's danger room, no?). That gives it a perimeter of about 1000 feet. Anyone capable of, say, a Mach 100 attack speed (that's over 100 feet per millisecond), is gonna be able to zip around that perimeter in about 1/100 of a second.

Know the expression "in the blink of an eye?" That takes 1/10 of a second. This means Wonder Woman (granted a Mach 100 attack speed), can zip around the perimeter of this danger room in 1/10 the time it takes to blink an eye.

Can her opponents - even if spaced out evenly around the danger room's perimeter - react within this time frame? My first impression: I don't think so.

What Diana may do - to her detriment, since she has no foreknowledge of her opponents - is pause before attacking, trying to gauge what her opponents are about. If she does this, then she could well have her work cut out for her.

That's why I made it like this to give each side a equal opportunity to win.

Originally posted by yahman
Ooooh Action Potentials, we doing this at the moment. Other things have to be taken into consideration, such as the time taken to for the myosin filaments in the muscle's to synthesis ATP (or whatever the magical substitute), and contract ! 🙂 X do you know a lot about this, as i was wondering if it scientifically possible to substantially increase ones reactions ?

This is the deflecting gunfire from all directions from a few feet (if even that) away and while distracted thing I mentioned earlier.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I do neuroscience. I don't know whether a speedblitz would utilise aerobic or anaerobic respiration but I'd assume the latter so she'd likely be using creatine phosphate to synthesize ATP. - assuming a speedblitz would utilise the entirety of her ATP stores. Since she's capable of sustained superfast movements I'm not convinced that she would. Also, I don't know if people created from clay and given life by gods would have something akin to human physiology.

This is the deflecting gunfire from all directions from a few feet (if even that) away and while distracted thing I mentioned earlier.

thanx for the pic so who do you thin wins?

Hmm... if the Danger Room has a diameter of 300 ft, the circumference is approximately 940 ft. At Mach 3 it would take less than 0.3 seconds to circle this perimeter...

It also depends on whose positioned where.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hmm... if the Danger Room has a diameter of 300 ft, the circumference is approximately 940 ft. At Mach 3 it would take less than 0.3 seconds to circle this perimeter...

It also depends on whose positioned where.

use your imagination

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
This is the deflecting gunfire from all directions from a few feet (if even that) away and while distracted thing I mentioned earlier.

Very cool pic, but, for me at least, it begs the question: if she's so blinkin' durable, why does she have to do this at all?

The Demoralize Opponents Reason
As I posted once before, it would be even more demoralizing if she just stood there and took it (ie, bullets bouncing off her), especially with a you-can't-hurt-Me smile on her face.
Neo: You mean I'll be able to dodge bullets?
Morpheus: I'm saying, you won't have to.

The Blunt Force Durability Reason
WW can't handle "pointy objects" (bullets, arrows); though she can handle (eg) a punch from Superman. Thing is, Superman's punch is soooo much stronger and faster than a bullet, the impact force of his fist more than compensates (IMHO) for its increased surface area (kinetic energy equals 1/2 the mass times velocity squared: plug in your own numbers, see what ya get).

Of course, the reason is probably what I would call the Character Defined reason: deflecting bullets with her bracelets is what she does, it is a defining trait of WW, whereas Superman's (eg) is, stand there, take it and smile (well, maybe not smile).

Perhaps a good comicological reason would be this: WW doesnt take the full force of Supes' punch, but she is such a well-trained fighter that she is able to roll (somewhat) with his punches. This would give her a more consistent (if reduced) level of durability, which is okay, because she is relying on other skills to achieve the same end result.

And (just curious) why was her "attack speed" reduced to Mach 3?

deflecting energy attacks.

Originally posted by Mindship
Very cool pic, but, for me at least, it begs the question: if she's so blinkin' durable, why does she have to do this at all?

The Demoralize Opponents Reason
As I posted once before, it would be even more demoralizing if she just stood there and took it (ie, bullets bouncing off her), especially with a you-can't-hurt-Me smile on her face.
Neo: You mean I'll be able to dodge bullets?
Morpheus: I'm saying, you won't have to.

The Blunt Force Durability Reason
WW can't handle "pointy objects" (bullets, arrows); though she can handle (eg) a punch from Superman. Thing is, Superman's punch is soooo much stronger and faster than a bullet, the impact force of his fist more than compensates (IMHO) for its increased surface area (kinetic energy equals 1/2 the mass times velocity squared: plug in your own numbers, see what ya get).

Of course, the reason is probably what I would call the Character Defined reason: deflecting bullets with her bracelets is what she does, it is a defining trait of WW, whereas Superman's (eg) is, stand there, take it and smile (well, maybe not smile).

Perhaps a good comicological reason would be this: WW doesnt take the full force of Supes' punch, but she is such a well-trained fighter that she is able to roll (somewhat) with his punches. This would give her a more consistent (if reduced) level of durability, which is okay, because she is relying on other skills to achieve the same end result.

And (just curious) why was her "attack speed" reduced to Mach 3?

Originally posted by Juntai
I'm left to assume she does it because... she did it in the 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s and 90s?
A bulk of the time being that she couldn't take those levels of attack.
See her old show for instance with Linda Carter... she couldn't fly yet, and probably would have got lit up by a mac11 without those bracelets.

Linda Carter <sigh> still eye-candy after all these years

Originally posted by Mindship
And (just curious) why was her "attack speed" reduced to Mach 3?

So does she win or not ppl?

I say thee thumbs_up IF she strikes first, hard and fast.

She does well more often than not.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Another thing that has to be taken in consideration is because WW has no knowledge about whom is whom with these girls of Marvel and what they all can do and the same goes for them. It's most likely that WW tries to take down SHE-HULK 1st because she is the most imposing. And SHE-HULK will take a conciderable beating before going down one attack by WW isn't going to take her out. Which gives IW and Psy time to do their thing... Along with the rest of them.

Shulkies a Hulk. If she's not outright killed in one go, she'll heal in a matter of moments and be ready to wail on her again.

That's what's gonna make this fight difficult. Unless she can kill She-Hulk outright(she'd need to take everyone else down, because once one of THEM realizes that Jen can go toe-to-toe, she'll be the one they try to set up) she's gonna have an impossible fight ahead of her.

First fight goes to the Marvel girls, as Sue keeps Jen and herself protected to heal up, while Psylocke and Emma do their best to attack WWs mind. Hell, Supermans nearly invulnerable, but if you hit him hard enough, he WILL flinch.

Every fight after words would go better for WW. She'll eventually win, but only after taking down Sue, Emma and Psylocke, and everyone BUT She-Hulk(who'll probably give her a hell of a time) until the very end.

I say it's 5/10 or 6/10 WW.

As I posted once before, it would be even more demoralizing if she just stood there and took it (ie, bullets bouncing off her), especially with a you-can't-hurt-Me smile on her face.

Although if WW is as cocky as you seem to make her out to be nowadays, what's to say she won't let her pride get the better of her, and give Jen one free shot? I don't think there are many who can take an unbraced uppercut from the She-Hulk. And those who can are at least woozy as hell.