Marvel Women vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Mindship
Good point. So lemme take out my Calculator Which Imposes Real Numbers onto the Comic World...

Given let's say an "average" neural distance of 1 centimeter, a nerve impulse could cover that in about 1/12,000th of a second.

For Diana to throw a punch which will connect before her opponents could react (let's say she's toe-to-toe, so we're talking a distance of maybe 2 feet); to cover 2 feet in 1/12,000 of a second (actually, a lil' faster), her fist would have to be moving at least Mach 21.

Do-able? WW gonna have to hustle her star-spangled booty, even faster if she's beyond arm's reach.

True but, her only competition is IW's and Psylocke's shields.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
And for all we know Phoenix may also be derived of the Source like the Godwave.

Phoenix was presented as being one and the same as the Source in the past and now in current continuity Phoenix represents the Crown in creation so it is indeed an aspect.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thanks for that. So until we have conclusive proof that in an earth like atmosphere Wonder Woman can move faster than those speeds listed from that site then it looks like the heroes with psi based powers will be able to react before theyre taken out.

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Originally posted by LethalFemme
True but, her only competition is IW's and Psylocke's shields.

Whats to stop them protecting the others in a shield? They do it all the time in their respective comics. Its a standard battle procedure. Then what? Either Psylocke or IW can suffocate WW while the others restrain and pound WW.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Whats to stop them protecting the others in a shield? They do it all the time in their respective comics. Its a standard battle procedure. Then what? Either Psylocke or IW can suffocate WW while the others restrain and pound WW.

I'm not saying they wouldn't I'm just identifying IW and Psylocke as the big guns and for those with range powers such as Rogue I can see that working against them seeing as WW has the bracelets and don't count out the lasso.

So are we saying WW can't top Mach 21? Seems to me, in order to have fought Superman, she'd have to be faster than Mach 21... unless Supes is not that fast, at least reflex-wise.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thanks for that. So until we have conclusive proof that in an earth like atmosphere Wonder Woman can move faster than those speeds listed from that site then it looks like the heroes with psi based powers will be able to react before theyre taken out.

IN WW:219, Sacrifice Concludes.

She told Max Lord, when he tried to take her over "I see with a Gods eyes, and understand with a Gods wisdom, Max Lord. Your power will not work on me"
And then he said "I didn't think it would. But you can't blame a guy for trying."

I would also assume she's powerful enough to get through the shields created by IW. There's been lesser things that pounded through them. Gladiator did it with ease.

was as one or an aspect of the Source?

Originally posted by Juntai
IN WW:219, Sacrifice Concludes.

She told Max Lord, when he tried to take her over "I see with a Gods eyes, and understand with a Gods wisdom, Max Lord. Your power will not work on me"
And then he said "I didn't think it would. But you can't blame a guy for trying."

I would also assume she's powerful enough to get through the shields created by IW. There's been lesser things that pounded through them. Gladiator did it with ease.

I knew she could see them, were just debating if she can get through IW's and Psylocke's shields before she's "choked to death"

Originally posted by Mindship
So are we saying WW can't top Mach 21? Seems to me, in order to have fought Superman, she'd have to be faster than Mach 21... unless Supes is not that fast, at least reflex-wise.

Well GS is saying that WW hasn't shown to be able to move at those speeds in the earths atmosphere. So in theory she can't and it would leave her open to attack.

Originally posted by LethalFemme
I knew she could see them, were just debating if she can get through IW's and Psylocke's shields before she's "choked to death"

Originally posted by LethalFemme
I'm not saying they wouldn't I'm just identifying IW and Psylocke as the big guns and for those with range powers such as Rogue I can see that working against them seeing as WW has the bracelets and don't count out the lasso.

Wonder woman has a good chance in this battle. I just dont think its the blow out that all of the Dc crowd are presenting it as. I dont believe WW will be able to take out all of these characters in a speed blitz before they could react.

Mindships calculations have gone a big way in helping out my case. Emma Frost can transform to diamond form, IW and Psylocke could erect shields. All of that could arguably happen before WW reaches them. Iw or Psylocke could arguably even protect the others in a shield prior to WW reaching them.

Say Psylocke protected herself and Storm. IW protected herself and Emma got into diamond form. They could restrain her temporarily (winds/telekinesis) suffocate her (IW's shields) and pound away at her (Emma in diamond form/lightning) which would shorten the duration WW could hold her breath for example.

Just a possible scenario.

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Originally posted by Mindship
So are we saying WW can't top Mach 21? Seems to me, in order to have fought Superman, she'd have to be faster than Mach 21... unless Supes is not that fast, at least reflex-wise.

Yeah but theres a limit to how fast you can fly in an atmosphere. Thats why im saying this battle depends on the environment and how far they are from each other.

Also fighting Supes isnt conclusive proof of her being able to fight/fly at mach 21 or whatever because Supes doesnt always fly/fight at those speeds. Thats why we need scans depicting conclusively how fast WW can fly and move through an earth like environment.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Wonder woman has a good chance in this battle. I just dont think its the blow out that all of the Dc crowd are presenting it as. I dont believe WW will be able to take out all of these characters in a speed blitz before they could react.

Mindships calculations have gone a big way in helping out my case. Emma Frost can transform to diamond form, IW and Psylocke could erect shields. All of that could arguably happen before WW reaches them. Iw or Psylocke could arguably even protect the others in a shield prior to WW reaching them.

Say Psylocke protected herself and Storm. IW protected herself and Emma got into diamond form. They could restrain her temporarily (winds/telekinesis) suffocate her (IW's shields) and pound away at her (Emma in diamond form/lightning) which would shorten the duration WW could hold her breath for example.

Just a possible scenario.

True, I still just see WW winning I can't she them holding her that long and she does have speed and flight plus her weapons and we both know that eventually she'd use her bracelets to deflect an attack. The thing is they'll have to work to take her out for awhile and in her case she just needs one hit see where I'm coming from.😬

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yeah but theres a limit to how fast you can fly in an atmosphere. Thats why im saying this battle depends on the environment and how far they are from each other.

Also fighting Supes isnt conclusive proof of her being able to fight/fly at mach 21 or whatever because Supes doesnt always fly/fight at those speeds. Thats why we need scans depicting conclusively how fast WW can fly and move through an earth like environment.

near the end of the comic..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/ww3.jpg

Look at how long it took from start to finish.

1 minute, 54 seconds.

Note that it takes light 8.4 minutes, one way... with no fighting.

Originally posted by LethalFemme
True, I still just see WW winning I can't she them holding her that long and she does have speed and flight plus her weapons and we both know that eventually she'd use her bracelets to deflect an attack. The thing is they'll have to work to take her out for awhile and in her case she just needs one hit see where I'm coming from.😬

One hit wont cut it against Psylocke/IW shields or Emma Frosts diamond form. It would take time for her to take any of those members out.

I just think she can be restrained temporarily long enough for Sue to work her magic be it suffocation or bubbles in the brain. The brain thing would probably take her out instantly whilst the suffocation thing can be aided via a pounding from the other members.

I dunno. I just dont think its as easy as was previously being made out.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix was presented as being one and the same as the Source in the past and now in current continuity Phoenix represents the Crown in creation so it is indeed an aspect.

wtf its a Phoenix thread 😕

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Originally posted by Juntai
Superman and Wonder woman fought at first on Earth, then he carried her into space all the way to the sun, they fought there too, then they came all the way back they fought for another several pages on Earth...

near the end of the comic..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/ww3.jpg

Look at how long it took from start to finish.

1 minute, 54 seconds.

Note that it takes light 8.4 minutes, one way... with no fighting.

Didnt Superman chokehold her off the planet lol. I cant remember?

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman and Wonder woman fought at first on Earth, then he carried her into space all the way to the sun, they fought there too, then they came all the way back they fought for another several pages on Earth...

near the end of the comic..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/ww3.jpg

Look at how long it took from start to finish.

1 minute, 54 seconds.

Note that it takes light 8.4 minutes, one way... with no fighting.

Which makes it hilarious 🙂 fun comic battle though 🙂