Originally posted by Warmonger
Dude you don't know wheter or not it is a light spell and you don't know whether or not it worked. What we can tell is that the Hulk is already getting his ass hammered before that panel. And it didn't happen until Warptath went nuts, which has nothing to do with shaman as he does it everytime he gets really angry.You nver proved that the light calmed him. First he starts beating Warpth's ass, then Warpath goes balistic and returns the favor. Heck you can't even prove that Shamn evencast the spell its is just a glowing rock held in his and. For all you know Shaman didn't evne finish with his first spell.
T-Brid got a strentgh in crease that is for sure. But you don't know whether the Hulk got a strentgh decrese. As Warpath pointed out he was able to K.O the hulk cause he was weaker than normal [B]because he was seperated from banner
those are the facts. Hulk getting weaker from the spell is just supposition on your part. [/B]
Good lord, first off we know Aurora can calm people with his light. Shaman says he is going to do the same thing. A calm Hulk is a weaker Hulk. Shaman says that's why he is going to do and pulls the rock out of his poutch. Hulk gets the shit kicked out of him. Wow! come on man. T-bird got a strength increase and while he was attacking Hulk he pulled out the stone. Honestly what do you even think it was then? a charm pendent? Hulk has taken much more punishment and even you said so yourself, yet a few punches KO him?
Ummm...do you even know who Shaman is? that's the stuff he pulls out not energy blasts small things that fit through the poutch's mouth. Alright man, what did he pull out then. Honestly, tell me. He says he is going to perform a light spell but he needs to immobolize him to do it. He does get immobolize and he pulls out something from his poutch. Yeah I guess I am stretching 😆 His first spell was done, he immobilzed the Hulk in the ground, hence why he pulls out a NEW OBJECT.
Yeah and prior to getting his increase the weaker Hulk was kicking his arse. Also don't you dare say I'm denying the facts, when Shaman clear as day says he uses the light to calm him and he does...yet you believe he still didn't do it?
Originally posted by Eternity
If hulk is fighting her and knows she is trying to hurt him he wont be calmed by anything she does as long as she is still attacking him. As i said before hulk would simply thunderclap and this fight would be over. If wonderman could be hurt by a thunderclap then there is no hope for her period
Hulk won't know, because the light will calm him. Now with hulk calm she can land multiple blows that can tear his molecules apart. The scenerio has already been discussed.
The thunderclap has already been discussed, I'm not repeating myself once again. No offence to you, but this is getting repetitive.
What is this girls strength level anyway when hulk is calm he is about that 70 ton range is she up to this? I doubt this and even if hulk was calm she still would not be able to defeat him. Hulk has infact resisted his
molecules being torn apart thanks to his h factor so thre is still no way for her to realy take him down. Besides i have not read the comic your talking about but it seems that T bird got a strength increase and then defeated a calm hulk no strength increases for her and is she really on t birds level if not she still cannot defeat hulk even when calm. what if she is fighting professor hulk She isnt as strong as he is and she wont have her calming thing going on would she? What would she do then? Unless you want to tell me that she is stronger than professor hulk who is class 100 then what would she do?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hulk won't know, because the light will calm him. Now with hulk calm she can land multiple blows that can tear his molecules apart. The scenerio has already been discussed.The thunderclap has already been discussed, I'm not repeating myself once again. No offence to you, but this is getting repetitive.
I know you don't want to hear it but Thunderclap is very useful in this fight. Not just to hurt Aurora but to interrupt her calming Hulk. Can she calm him to the point where he reverts to banner before he can hit her/thunderclap? I don't think so. She doesn't have the power to put him down either... this isn't much of a fight.
Originally posted by Eternity
What is this girls strength level anyway when hulk is calm he is about that 70 ton range is she up to this? I doubt this and even if hulk was calm she still would not be able to defeat him. Hulk has infact resisted his
molecules being torn apart thanks to his h factor so thre is still no way for her to realy take him down. Besides i have not read the comic your talking about but it seems that T bird got a strength increase and then defeated a calm hulk no strength increases for her and is she really on t birds level if not she still cannot defeat hulk even when calm. what if she is fighting professor hulk She isnt as strong as he is and she wont have her calming thing going on would she? What would she do then? Unless you want to tell me that she is stronger than professor hulk who is class 100 then what would she do?
It's not about strength, it's about ability. She can speed up a object tearing apart the molecules and with her superspeed she can even hurt the Hulk by pounching him a hundred times in a second like her brother did. When has he resisted his molecules being torn apart in a calm phase? Tearing apart molecules would do more damage than blunt force trauma like what T-Bird was dong. Actually nevermind you don't know much about Aurora, read the bio's on the first page.
Originally posted by scotsmn
I know you don't want to hear it but Thunderclap is very useful in this fight. Not just to hurt Aurora but to interrupt her calming Hulk. Can she calm him to the point where he reverts to banner before he can hit her/thunderclap? I don't think so. She doesn't have the power to put him down either... this isn't much of a fight.
I never even considered her calming him to revert back to Banner. Also she can attack from all angles not just head on, so a thunder clap when Aurora is attacking from behind is pretty useless. What my whole point with this, which many have obviously missed is with the light she can calm and weaken him. A full force of tearing his molecules apart at his heart, brain or whatnot could knock him out.
Originally posted by Eternity
HOW will auroras body manouvre the sound wave? her body is made to withstand those sort of things wonderman is more invulnerable than her but it still affected him so pleaaaase tellhow a thunderclap would not affect her
She can go mach 10, also I never said if she gets hit by it she would be unscaved. Also Hulk won't be in a made rage against her due to her calming light. A full force thunderclap from enraged Hulk is serious, but she has methods to weakened him.
Why are people saying things that I never said?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Good lord, first off we know Aurora can calm people with his light. Shaman says he is going to do the same thing. A calm Hulk is a weaker Hulk. Shaman says that's why he is going to do and pulls the rock out of his poutch. Hulk gets the shit kicked out of him. Wow! come on man. T-bird got a strength increase and while he was attacking Hulk he pulled out the stone. Honestly what do you even think it was then? a charm pendent? Hulk has taken much more punishment and even you said so yourself, yet a few punches KO him?
See this is where you make your first mitake. Shaman didn't pull soemthing out of his pouch then Hulk gets his ass kicked. Hulk and Warpath go at it Warpath reverts to war mode THEN Hulk gets his ass kicked. It is nothing but wishful thinking on your part that says it was because of some spell that Shaman cast. He didn't say "its a good thing Shamn pulled out that glwoing rock otherwise I would have bene a goner" no he says that he managed to beat a weakned version of the Hulk.
It had nothing to do with Shaman and you know that you cna't prove that it did. LOOK at your own picture Shaman doesn't evne have the rock out until Hulk is ALREADY ON THE GROUND GETTING STOMPED. As even Warpath said Hulk was weaker because of his speration with banner you are the only one insiting that it was because of SHaman's spell evne Warpath disagress with you.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm...do you even know who Shaman is? that's the stuff he pulls out not energy blasts small things that fit through the poutch's mouth. Alright man, what did he pull out then. Honestly, tell me. He says he is going to perform a light spell but he needs to immobolize him to do it. He does get immobolize and he pulls out something from his poutch. Yeah I guess I am stretching 😆 His first spell was done, he immobilzed the Hulk in the ground, hence why he pulls out a NEW OBJECT.
He says he is goign to immobilize Hulk he take s out arock and throws it Hulk's feet the gorund Immobilizes him. No stretch there. Except when he says he is going ot cast a light spell but between those tow pages we don't see him doing anything. YOU ARE ASSUMING that he cast the spell when Hulk and Warptath are fighting. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. What we do know is that the next time we see him he has a glowing rock in hsi hand BUT ONLY AFTER HULK IS ALREADY ON THE GROUND.
When Aurara uses her powers there is a bright light. Shaman's rock is a dim glow. When Shaman trap Hulk you see the spell doign soething. When he supposedly cast his light spell nothing happens no lights no effects on the hulk or Warpth no nothing. Maybe he wwas about to cast it but he never did.
The only wya you cna prove that Shamn is casting a light spell is to show Shaman casting the spell and it having the smae look and actions surroudnign it other wise YOU ARE JSUT GUESSING.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah and prior to getting his increase the weaker Hulk was kicking his arse. Also don't you dare say I'm denying the facts, when Shaman clear as day says he uses the light to calm him and he does...yet you believe he still didn't do it?
Yes the Hulk was kicking his ass then he turned to War are you going to tell me that is because of Shaman's mysterious spell too?
How do you know that Shaman does use the spell? By the time he casts it Hulk is already getting his ass kicked. So what maeks you so sure. YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN SHAMAN CASTS THE SPELL. THE ONLY TIME WE SEE HIM DOING SOMETHING AFTER HE TRAPS HULK HULK IS ALREADY ON THE GROUND.
You are just assiming that Shaman cast a spell while Hulk was beating up warpath but you can't prove that.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
It's not about strength, it's about ability. She can speed up a object tearing apart the molecules and with her superspeed she can even hurt the Hulk by pounching him a hundred times in a second like her brother did. When has he resisted his molecules being torn apart in a calm phase? Tearing apart molecules would do more damage than blunt force trauma like what T-Bird was dong. Actually nevermind you don't know much about Aurora, read the bio's on the first page.I never even considered her calming him to revert back to Banner. Also she can attack from all angles not just head on, so a thunder clap when Aurora is attacking from behind is pretty useless. What my whole point with this, which many have obviously missed is with the light she can calm and weaken him. A full force of tearing his molecules apart at his heart, brain or whatnot could knock him out.
She can go mach 10, also I never said if she gets hit by it she would be unscaved. Also Hulk won't be in a made rage against her due to her calming light. A full force thunderclap from enraged Hulk is serious, but she has methods to weakened him.
Why are people saying things that I never said?
You can't prove that Aurara's light will calm Hulk down especially consdierign that KMC rule state that Hulk knows she is his enemy and Hulk has basic knoledge of his opponents.
What of an omni directional thunderclap? If hulk came into the fight and did this immediately what would happen then? You also have not answrered the professor hulk question her calming light would not really have much effect on him and a thunderclap from him would still weaken her and allow him to finish her off for good
NO! Why does not one actually read my posts? I even said that, but at first you claimed it was part of the first spell and you were wrong. Why the hell would T-Bird say that when he went into a berserk fury and it was Shaman who had to talk him out of attacking him. Have you even read that issue? Hulk was getting pounded after the grab and then Shaman pulls out the stone. Yet, you even have said yourself Hulk cannot be easily knocked out so obviously something happened, where Shaman states he is going to do something and then later pulls out the stone. Honestly wake up. Once again I'm repeating myself, T-bird got a strength increase, but with Shaman and his abilities he used the light to calm the Hulk, which he said he was going to do. What the hell would he be pulling out after he already finished his spell and immobilized the Hulk?
You know what I'm done, I'm tired of repeating myself and if you don't believe something clear as day as he said he was going to use a spell to calm the Hulk and he infact does it later. How are you arguing? I didn't read the rest of your post
Originally posted by Warmonger
You can't prove that Aurara's light will calm Hulk down especially consdierign that KMC rule state that Hulk knows she is his enemy and Hulk has basic knoledge of his opponents.
First off Hulk is an idiot, your telling me he is going to make a plan to counter her? Also she can keep shooting the light at him all day, with her speed he is not going to catch her
Originally posted by Eternity
What of an omni directional thunderclap? If hulk came into the fight and did this immediately what would happen then? You also have not answrered the professor hulk question her calming light would not really have much effect on him and a thunderclap from him would still weaken her and allow him to finish her off for good
Won't be potent if he is in a calm phase, and no it wouldn't work on professor Hulk or Mr.Fix-it. Were going by savage Hulk
Originally posted by King_Mungi
NO! Why does not one actually read my posts? I even said that, but at first you claimed it was part of the first spell and you were wrong. Why the hell would T-Bird say that when he went into a berserk fury and it was Shaman who had to talk him out of attacking him. Have you even read that issue? Hulk was getting pounded after the grab and then Shaman pulls out the stone. Yet, you even have said yourself Hulk cannot be easily knocked out so obviously something happened, where Shaman states he is going to do something and then later pulls out the stone. Honestly wake up. Once again I'm repeating myself, T-bird got a strength increase, but with Shaman and his abilities he used the light to calm the Hulk, which he said he was going to do. What the hell would he be pulling out after he already finished his spell and immobilized the Hulk?You know what I'm done, I'm tired of repeating myself and if you don't believe something clear as day as he said he was going to use a spell to calm the Hulk and he infact does it later. How are you arguing? I didn't read the rest of your post
*Sigh*
Shaman says that he is going to immobilize Hulk with a spell. WE know that not only does he do so, but it works. We know this becasue we see him throw the stone at Hulk's feet then we see the earth open up and swallow the Hulk.
Now he is going to cast the light spell. Except that the only time we see him do something is after the Hulk is already on the gorund.
You cannot assume that he did something between thes two actions.
The only way we would know for sure whether or not Shaman's spell catually worked would be to see Hulk calming down. Where do you see that in those pages? No where.
That si why I say that you cannot prove that Shaman actually cast the light spell becasue in order to prove taht you would have to show evidnece that Hulk was affected by the spell and you can't.
All we see is Warpath hitting Hulk.
It is just your assumption that Shaman did cast the spell and that it worked.
AS I stated over and over the reason Hulk was K.O was because it was a weaker version of the Hulk.
Why is this so hard for you?
Also I didn't claim it was part of the first spell. I was merely trying to point out that since there is no evidnece that this is the light spell it can certainly be interpretted as part of the first spell.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
First off Hulk is an idiot, your telling me he is going to make a plan to counter her? Also she can keep shooting the light at him all day, with her speed he is not going to catch herWon't be potent if he is in a calm phase, and no it wouldn't work on professor Hulk or Mr.Fix-it. Were going by savage Hulk
I'm not talking about the Hulk making a plan. I am talking about the Hulk knowing for a fact that she is his enemy and that he needs to take her down. Once he knows this she won't be able to calm him down.
Is aurora faster than gladiator didnt hulk beat him? If she calms him and throws a punch at him or even hurts him a little her calming thing is not going to work anymore because hulk will smash her really really quickly. she will then have to face the full might of a really savage hulk.
Savage hulks has instinct not intelligence he does what he needs to win
All that needs to do is immediately thunderclap and aurora is out end of fight.
hmmmmmmmm
no1. lights calm hulk is from exiles is it the hulk of 616
no.2 Hulk regeneration
Hulk: The End
http://img198.exs.cx/img198/7175/healing14a1vc.jpg
http://img198.exs.cx/img198/3606/healing14b9zu.jpg
http://img198.exs.cx/img198/4638/healing14c1pf.jpg
n03. doubt the whole spped thing will work as Hulk will simplt become more angry casing his energy to increase.
The mystical Pariah drains energy from the Hulk, weakening him to the point of near-collapse... until the Hulk's anger rises. Then he is no longer affected:
http://img159.exs.cx/img159/948/pariah7vz.jpg
http://img159.exs.cx/img159/643/pariah22xb.jpg
No.4 her hypnotic powers will do nothing against Hulk casue of his multiple personality disorder better physics have treid like the ringmaster.
No.5 the whole calm down hulk thing with her lights but if its on the same as Sentry's is it will soothe the pain that Hulk is constanly in making him in a less agitated state.
Lets take a look at this shall we.
In this panel Shaman says that he is going to cast two spells. One to restrain the Hulk and one to calm him. We see the restraiing spell then Warpath jumps on him.
Ok here is Hulk beating down Warpath. Notice who is not in this picture: Shaman.
Ok now here we go. Warptath freaks otu and begins to take down Hulk. Notice I don't see Shaman casting any spells here.
Now here we see Warptath tearing the Hulk up. After Hulk is already down we see Shaman whip something out of his pouch. The thing is that the Hulk is already down. So how can any one say tha is it was becasue of Shaman's spell when the Hulk was already down?
We never got to see the Hulk calm down or anything all we can see is Hulk getting bashed by Warptaht before Shaman ever does anything. We dont KNOW. Mungi is only guessing.
Originally posted by Warmonger
*Sigh*Shaman says that he is going to immobilize Hulk with a spell. WE know that not only does he do so, but it works. We know this becasue we see him throw the stone at Hulk's feet then we see the earth open up and swallow the Hulk.
Now he is going to cast the light spell. Except that the only time we see him do something is after the Hulk is already on the gorund.
You cannot assume that he did something between thes two actions.
The only way we would know for sure whether or not Shaman's spell catually worked would be to see Hulk calming down. Where do you see that in those pages? No where.
That si why I say that you cannot prove that Shaman actually cast the light spell becasue in order to prove taht you would have to show evidnece that Hulk was affected by the spell and you can't.
All we see is Warpath hitting Hulk.
It is just your assumption that Shaman did cast the spell and that it worked.
AS I stated over and over the reason Hulk was K.O was because it was a weaker version of the Hulk.
Why is this so hard for you?
Also I didn't claim it was part of the first spell. I was merely trying to point out that since there is no evidnece that this is the light spell it can certainly be interpretted as part of the first spell.
Because it was stated Aurora can calm people, Hulk can be calmed and Shaman said he was about to perform a spell to calm him. I said I was done, and I'm not going further.
Yes a weaker version that Aurora who's powers can make weaker. We know for a fact she can, and her light powers trump anything Shaman can come up with.
Originally posted by Eternity
Is aurora faster than gladiator didnt hulk beat him? If she calms him and throws a punch at him or even hurts him a little her calming thing is not going to work anymore because hulk will smash her really really quickly. she will then have to face the full might of a really savage hulk.
Savage hulks has instinct not intelligence he does what he needs to win
All that needs to do is immediately thunderclap and aurora is out end of fight.
How is Hulk going to touch her? written correctly he isn't. Also once again she ISN'T ABOUT POWER. It's about ability, she can tear apart the molecules not just do damage physically with her speed.
Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
hmmmmmmmmno1. lights calm hulk is from exiles is it the hulk of 616
no.2 Hulk regeneration
Hulk: The End
http://img198.exs.cx/img198/7175/healing14a1vc.jpg
http://img198.exs.cx/img198/3606/healing14b9zu.jpg
http://img198.exs.cx/img198/4638/healing14c1pf.jpgn03. doubt the whole spped thing will work as Hulk will simplt become more angry casing his energy to increase.
The mystical Pariah drains energy from the Hulk, weakening him to the point of near-collapse... until the Hulk's anger rises. Then he is no longer affected:
http://img159.exs.cx/img159/948/pariah7vz.jpg
http://img159.exs.cx/img159/643/pariah22xb.jpgNo.4 her hypnotic powers will do nothing against Hulk casue of his multiple personality disorder better physics have treid like the ringmaster.
No.5 the whole calm down hulk thing with her lights but if its on the same as Sentry's is it will soothe the pain that Hulk is constanly in making him in a less agitated state.
Hulk from the End is stronger than the 616 version due to he has absorbed more radiation and that's why his healing factor is incredible. Not the same. Hulk has been calmed by lights in the 616 world as well
She won't be punching like a madman, she would be tearing apart his molecules huge difference.
Never even factored it in.
Calm Hulk equal weak Hulk. Also why is everyone even acting like Hulk even starts off at class 100
Yes you did, "For all you know Shaman didn't evne finish with his first spell." We know for a fact his first spell was over, and....screw it ,I'm done repeating myself. I replying to three seperate people about the exact same thing
Originally posted by Eternity
Is aurora faster than gladiator didnt hulk beat him? If she calms him and throws a punch at him or even hurts him a little her calming thing is not going to work anymore because hulk will smash her really really quickly. she will then have to face the full might of a really savage hulk.
Savage hulks has instinct not intelligence he does what he needs to win
All that needs to do is immediately thunderclap and aurora is out end of fight.
How is Hulk going to touch her? written correctly he isn't. Also once again she ISN'T ABOUT POWER. It's about ability, she can tear apart the molecules not just do damage physically with her speed.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Because it was stated Aurora can calm people, Hulk can be calmed and Shaman said he was about to perform a spell to calm him. I said I was done, and I'm not going further.Yes a weaker version that Aurora who's powers can make weaker. We know for a fact she can, and her light powers trump anything Shaman can come up with.
How is Hulk going to touch her? written correctly he isn't. Also once again she ISN'T ABOUT POWER. It's about ability, she can tear apart the molecules not just do damage physically with her speed.
Hulk from the End is stronger than the 616 version due to he has absorbed more radiation and that's why his healing factor is incredible. Not the same. Hulk has been calmed by lights in the 616 world as well
She won't be punching like a madman, she would be tearing apart his molecules huge difference.
Never even factored it in.
Calm Hulk equal weak Hulk. Also why is everyone even acting like Hulk even starts off at class 100
Yes you did, "For all you know Shaman didn't evne finish with his first spell." We know for a fact his first spell was over, and....screw it ,I'm done repeating myself. I replying to three seperate people about the exact same thing
How is Hulk going to touch her? written correctly he isn't. Also once again she ISN'T ABOUT POWER. It's about ability, she can tear apart the molecules not just do damage physically with her speed.
He said he was ABOUT to but he didn't do anything until after Hulk was knocked down. So you don't know wheter or not the spell had any effect on the Hulk.
As long as you keep trying to spin this I'll come back and pull the rug out from it.
If your done then stop posting the same invalid stuff over and over again.
well actually the hulk in a totally calm state does not start off at 100 tons but that is a totally NOTE:calm hulk
Now, HAS HER LIGHT POWERS EFFECT 616 HULK
Can you please give multiple scans of Aurora using her molecules rearrangment so i can judge and have a better analyse on it.
OK 616 HULK'S HEALING PROVING ANY DAMAGE FFROM HER HE WILL HEAL AND WHAT IF ANY REARRANGMENT OF MOLECULES THAT AURORA COULD CAUSE
Within seconds, the Hulk recovers from a near-skeletal state.
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Glazier's🙄 transmutation 🙄 power fails against the Hulk:
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/6061/GlassHulk.jpg
Goom shrinks the Hulk... and the Hulk promptly grows back to normal size.
http://img78.exs.cx/img78/3741/goom6ca.jpg
Banner (and obviously the Hulk) is unaffected the Evolutionary's devolving power:
http://img159.exs.cx/img159/7897/evolutionary17or.jpg
MOST OF THE SCANS ABOVE, have smething to do with the violation of hulk's molecules so as you can see she will have little affect with that skill espicially considering she is't adept here as most people inluding in those scans.
