Originally posted by Bentley
haha, so Gladiator got penetrated by Wolverine? (bye bye Superman level durability 😛 )Good to know the Annis were threated as serious threats though.
Or he does have superman level durability. Wolverine had problems cutting Thor but easily cuts Glads?
Hmm y'know what considering that Wolverine was falling through the air and Glads was flying towards him, maybe it's not so bad.....
Originally posted by DeadlineDoesn't matter, wouldn't penetrate Superman, or even Superboy for that matter.
Or he does have superman level durability. Wolverine had problems cutting Thor but easily cuts Glads?Hmm y'know what considering that Wolverine was falling through the air and Glads was flying towards him, maybe it's not so bad.....
Batman is such a combat expert.
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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Penetrate as in fulll-blown stab? Because I can see Superman's skin being punctured by an adamantium needle. So I can definitely see him getting kitty-scratched by Wolverine if not worse.
Nah, that would be lowballing Superman's durability. Unless, of course, you have seen him pierced by a mundane weapon without weakness exploitation.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ When have we seen Gladiator or Thanos or Count Nefaria be pierced by a mundane weapon without weakness exploitation?
As a matter of have, I have. Gladiator was pierced during the issue 5 of War of Kings. I recall Nefaria being power drained when Wolverine attacked him -though I can be wrong, my memory is hardly perfect-. Thanos's most powerful version has been destroyed by Anti-matter while Superman has tanked it.
Originally posted by BentleyBy what? Ms. Marvel draining enough energy to make Count Nefaria pierceable is an interesting theory. Savage Hulk tanked antimatter, we're talking about piercing.
As a matter of have, I have. Gladiator was pierced during the issue 5 of War of Kings. I recall Nefaria being power drained when Wolverine attacked him -though I can be wrong, my memory is hardly perfect-. Thanos's most powerful version has been destroyed by Anti-matter while Superman has tanked it.
If you think Superman's skin can't be penetrated by even an adamantium needle, that makes him pretty much adamantium-level in durability. Needless to say, I find that ridiculous.
Well, since Nefaria's durability comes from his ionic energy, it seemed as something believeable, but again, it was what I thought back when I read the comic.
Apparently you think we are doing it wrong, since you think piercing durability is different, maybe you wish to list Nefaria's best piercing resistance feat and I can bring Kal's. Ditto for Thanos.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
By what? Ms. Marvel draining enough energy to make Count Nefaria pierceable is an interesting theory. Savage Hulk tanked antimatter, we're talking about piercing.If you think Superman's skin can't be penetrated by even an adamantium needle, that makes him pretty much adamantium-level in durability. Needless to say, I find that ridiculous.
I don't see how, unless you're of the opinion that a person's strength doesn't enter the equation.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If you think Superman's skin can't be penetrated by even an adamantium needle, that makes him pretty much adamantium-level in durability. Needless to say, I find that ridiculous.
Am I claiming that? I'm just saying that Logan wouldn't pierce him in a comic book. It's comicbook versus posters who jump into all the crazy conclusions.
Originally posted by BentleyIt's simple for me. Most people agree that the only thing durable enough in Marvel comics to completely no-sell Wolverine's claws is adamantium. That's because, based on all his feats taken together, Wolverine's claws have pierced everything under the sun barring adamantium in Marvel.
Well, since Nefaria's durability comes from his ionic energy, it seemed as something believeable, but again, it was what I thought back when I read the comic.Apparently you think we are doing it wrong, since you think piercing durability is different, maybe you wish to list Nefaria's best piercing resistance feat and I can bring Kal's. Ditto for Thanos.
So to believe that Superman getting pierced by Wolverine's claws would be "lowballing" Superman... Superman's piercing durability has to at least be on par with adamantium.
I don't place Superman's level of piercing durability on the level of adamantium at all. Superman's been pierced by H/P Doomsdays bony protrusions, Despero's claws and Diana's tiara off the top of my head. And no, I don't think H/P Doomsday bones, Despero's claws or even Diana's tiara would easily slice through adamantium. And beyond that, I'm sure I'm forgetting far more "mundane" examples.
Originally posted by -Pr-When it comes to Wolverine's claws, it really doesn't. Wolverine shouldn't be slicing and dicing through 90% of the things he has done so with ease based on their actual durability, their thickness, or his strength. Anybody can see that it's stupid and makes little sense. But within the fourt corners of a comic book, anybody can see that it doesn't matter 99% of the time. Wolverine's claws keep performing feats like that. And I may not like it, but it's still happened. And it'll likely happen again.
I don't see how, unless you're of the opinion that a person's strength doesn't enter the equation.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's simple. for me Most people agree that the only thing durable enough in Marvel comics to completely no-sell Wolverine's claws is adamantium. That's because, based on all his feats taken together, Wolverine's claws have pierced everything under the sun barring adamantium in Marvel.So to believe that Superman getting pierced by Wolverine's claws would be "lowballing" Superman... Superman's piercing durability has to at least be on par with adamantium.
I don't place Superman's level of piercing durability on the level of adamantium at all. Superman's been pierced by H/P Doomsdays bony protrusions, Despero's claws and Diana's tiara off the top of my head. And no, I don't think H/P Doomsday bones, Despero's claws or even Diana's tiara would easily slice through adamantium. And beyond that, I'm sure I'm forgetting far more "mundane" examples.
I was under this weird impression that Carbonadium and secondary adamantium, not to mention cap's shield had tanked Wolverine claws. So let's just not agree in the underlaying logic of your argument.
Also, there is strength to surpass Superman's durability, it's not a simple task of being very sharp and very dense. In most contexts, adamantium would bounce, which is what I think would happen if Wolverine slashed Supes. Again, I'm portraying this interaction factoring the usual way in which comics are written.
