Originally posted by carver9
Lol...that should tell you something about the androids durability.Yes, Mjlonir is an awesome weapon...never said that it wasn't but it'll get blocked by Goku index finger just like the sword got blocked.
It's shit compared to what Thor has endured?
Based on Mjolnir's striking power, which is at least as high as Goku's strongest physical blows, if Goku attempted that shit, he'd break his goddamn hand.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If they tanked those attacks, then the planet would be, y'know, busted. 😐The only planet busting attacks that have been used in DBZ are the ones which actually busted planets, or - assuming you give statements full credit - the ones which would have busted a planet before the attacks were mis-directed.
So stop acting like every energy attack ever used in DBZ is a planet buster.
You're smarter than this Jake. I don't even have to reply to this nonsense...I will let Galan and Cosmic do it with their knowledgeable concept on DBZ.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=572677&pagenumber=3
Read a lil more DBZ and come back and holla at me.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's shit compared to what Thor has endured?Based on Mjolnir's striking power, which is at least as high as Goku's strongest physical blows, if Goku attempted that shit, he'd break his goddamn hand.
Going by Thor showings, he isn't withstanding a super speed sword slash from a Super Saiyan...sorry bro.
Goku would finger block that hammer easier than Phoenix Cyclops.
Pressure of an attack is more important than area.
It doesn't matter if everything busts a planet or not--that's not how power is determined in DBZ or in reality.
Nappa's two finger blast was just as big as Majin Vegeta's self destruct. One was a shit ton more powerful than the other (a 4000 pl Nappa tanked his own attack, Vegeta did not).
Frieza's death beams could actually hurt SSJ Goku a little bit, whereas as a volley of his city block sized generic ki blasts were tanked outright just earlier in the fight.
Originally posted by carver9
You're smarter than this Jake. I don't even have to reply to this nonsense...I will let Galan and Cosmic do it with their knowledgeable concept on DBZ.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=572677&pagenumber=3
Read a lil more DBZ and come back and holla at me.
I've both read and watched DBZ.
And you marking out for "planet busting" doesn't change the fact that:
A.) Vast majority of attacks in DBZ aren't even close to planet busting.
B.) Goku was killed by a planet buster and at that point in time he was grossly more powerful than Frieza.
C.) Physically, Goku and co. don't have the feats to suggest them not being messed the phuck up by Thor.
Originally posted by carver9
Going by Thor showings, he isn't withstanding a super speed sword slash from a Super Saiyan...sorry bro.Goku would finger block that hammer easier than Phoenix Cyclops.
Yeah, yeah he is. Read Thor comics.
Based on what? Goku's physical feats of strength/durability don't even come close to being able to do that, nor does he come close to Phoenix empowered Cyclops.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Pressure of an attack is more important than area.It doesn't matter if everything busts a planet or not--that's not how power is determined in DBZ or in reality.
Nappa's two finger blast was just as big as Majin Vegeta's self destruct. One was a shit ton more powerful than the other (a 4000 pl Nappa tanked his own attack, Vegeta did not).
Frieza's death beams could actually hurt SSJ Goku a little bit, whereas as a volley of his city block sized generic ki blasts were tanked outright just earlier in the fight.
Ergo, planet busting attacks in DBZ = overrated.
It's such a stupid argument to bring up as to why they'd be > high heralds and trans level beings.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Ergo, planet busting attacks in DBZ = overrated.
?
How did you get to that conclusion?
It means that if Frieza, while near dead, survived a planet exploding, the attacks that did hurt him, provided more pressure than the planet exploding did.
Nowhere near the AOE, but that in itself is not important for determining durability.
I'm more durable for being able to tank bullets than I am for being able to tank a hammer to the face.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Pressure of an attack is more important than area.It doesn't matter if everything busts a planet or not--that's not how power is determined in DBZ or in reality.
Nappa's two finger blast was just as big as Majin Vegeta's self destruct. One was a shit ton more powerful than the other (a 4000 pl Nappa tanked his own attack, Vegeta did not).
Frieza's death beams could actually hurt SSJ Goku a little bit, whereas as a volley of his city block sized generic ki blasts were tanked outright just earlier in the fight.
This man got common sense.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I've both read and watched DBZ.And you marking out for "planet busting" doesn't change the fact that:
A.) Vast majority of attacks in DBZ aren't even close to planet busting.
B.) Goku was killed by a planet buster and at that point in time he was grossly more powerful than Frieza.
C.) Physically, Goku and co. don't have the feats to suggest them not being messed the phuck up by Thor.
Cell killed Goku, not the planet explosion. No DBZ character EVER died from a planet exploding on them. That's like me saying The Serpent killed Thor with a mountain busting attack.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
?How did you get to that conclusion?
It means that if Frieza, while near dead, survived a planet exploding, the attacks that did hurt him, provided more pressure than the planet exploding did.
Nowhere near the AOE, but that in itself is not important for determining durability.
I'm more durable for being able to tank bullets than I am for being able to tank a hammer to the face.
Because that logic applies in comics as well. So dropping planet busting feats from DBZ characters and trying to act like they trump the elite high heralds and the like is ridiculous.
The most powerful attacks in comics don't bust planets and don't have to in order for us to know they'd phuck someone up regardless of whether or not they can survive a planet exploding. Godblast, Hal's Krona Buster, Superman singing, Destroyer's Disintegration Beam, Captain America's shield toss, etc.
Originally posted by carver9
Cell killed Goku, not the planet explosion. No DBZ character EVER died from a planet exploding on them. That's like me saying The Serpent killed Thor with a mountain busting attack.
Cell's kamikaze attack was designed to destroy Earth and wound up destroying King Kai's planet instead.
Which renders this whole fiasco concerning planet busting as being omg awesome when compared to non-DBZ characters as ridiculous. Especially considering that "planet" durability is shit.