Character Ownage

Started by TheGodKiller5,121 pages

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's not within her power, simple.

Based on her passing out from being eviscerated by Wendigo? Are you forgetting that she also completely recovered from said evisceration?

I fail to see how it would be beyond her power to recover from, unless you're insinuating her possibly acquiring some level of brain damage, amnesia, or some form of mental trauma counts as her "not recovering from it".

Originally posted by Philosophía
Hulk is far stronger than teen Thor, which is why he powered his way through the enchantment, I agree.

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Hulk was semi-worthy, which is why he was able to lift the hammer to begin with, I agree.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
facepalm

And yet, Thor managed to lift it in spite of the enchantment. So, per your own logic, Thor "overpowered" the enchantment in spite of him not being "worthy" (at least completely).

Thor didn't overpower the enchantment, that was as far as the enchantment let him do it, due to his almost-worthy status. There is a whole exchange after, on just that:

http://s593.photobucket.com/user/Max_Eisenhardt/media/ThorSonofAsgard11200412_zpsce54e472.jpg.html?sort=3&o=771

"The fact that you are able to lift it at all is a testament to your worth"

The whole point was the he couldn't overpower the enchantment and he had to be fully worthy.

Hulk had no such problems - eventough the enchantment was still in place, as blatantly proved by the fact that the hammer was actively resistin him, and it wasn't effortless, he powered through it.

Don't call me a troll because you have your emotions hurt about your own references proving you wrong.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Hulk was semi-worthy, which is why he was able to lift the hammer to begin with, I agree.

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If he was semi-worthy, he wouldn't be able to fully lift the hammer.

The enchantment would still be in place.

Hulk powered through it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
actually I do. I recently dled the entire amazing spiderman series (all 700 issues) onto my ipad.
I have a feeling if I would ask some questions to verify this, I would get answers like "I haven't time to read any of them" or similar stuff.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Based on her passing out from being eviscerated by Wendigo? Are you forgetting that she also completely recovered from said evisceration?

I fail to see how it would be beyond her power to recover from, unless you're insinuating her possibly acquiring some level of brain damage, amnesia, or some form of mental trauma counts as her "not recovering from it".

Based on her lack of feats. Getting ko'd by evisceration certainly doesn't help much.

Characters with better healing factors are not always allowed by writers/editors to be able to heal from that kind of damage.

Originally posted by curryman
Why are you guys still going on?

Philo is getting a hard-on from bullying Thor fans here. I am just jumping in for the heck of it.

Huey, is that from Harbinger? Been thinking of reading it...

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Philo is getting a hard-on from bullying Thor fans here. I am just jumping in for the heck of it.

Yeah, but it's so obvious it has to be good-natured 😛

Originally posted by Philosophía
If he was semi-worthy, he wouldn't be able to fully lift the hammer.

The enchantment would still be in place.

Hulk powered through it.


Lifting a hammer is lifting a hammer. Thor holding it a few inches above ground is "lifting the hammer". Just as Hulk holding it up in a triumphant pose is "lifting the hammer". There is no fully or partially about it.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Thor didn't overpower the enchantment, that was as far as the enchantment let him do it, due to his almost-worthy status. There is a whole exchange after, on just that:

http://s593.photobucket.com/user/Max_Eisenhardt/media/ThorSonofAsgard11200412_zpsce54e472.jpg.html?sort=3&o=771

"The fact that you are able to lift it at all is a testament to your worth"

The whole point was the he couldn't overpower the enchantment until he was worthy.

Hulk had no such problems - eventough the enchantment was still in place, as blatantly proved by the fact that the hammer was actively resistin him, and it wasn't effortless, he powered through it.

Don't call me a troll because you have your emotions hurt about your own references proving you wrong.

Christ. The comics show us what happened. Hulk was worthy. He struggled, but in his struggle, ultimately proved in that given moment, a time of need, he was worthy of Mjolnir, hence his battle cry of being worthy. It really doesn't get simpler than that.

Hulk no more "overpowered" the enchantment than teen Thor did.

C'mon, you're trolling at this point, Phil. Admit it and move on. Everyone here knows you are at this point. It's not like I'm gonna be an e-b1tch and report you or anything. 😂

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Based on her lack of feats. Getting ko'd by evisceration certainly doesn't help much.

Based on feats, she shouldn't even be damaged from a shot like that. Getting ko'ed by evisceration doesn't validate her inability to do so either.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Characters with better healing factors are not always allowed by writers/editors to be able to heal from that kind of damage.

Not really relevant to this discussion. Which characters are you talking about anyways?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hulk was worthy. He struggled
That can't happen, according to your own references. If you're worthy, it's effortless.

Admit you're wrong, and I won't keep pushing this. There's no shame in being wrong, but as it is, I'll keep hammering it down until it's clear for everybody. As it is, you're the one trolling.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hulk no more "overpowered" the enchantment than teen Thor did.
Teen Thor didn't overpower the enchantment. At all. Hulk did, fully so.

I already provided the scan explaining exactly why teen Thor was able to hover it i.e. he was one step away from being fully worthy, but the enchantment was still unbreakable.

Originally posted by Philosophía
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Stop trolling.

jake, hulk could've said the worthy part as ultimate mocking of thor

he's so strong that he overpowered mjolnir's enchantment and therefore is worthy by his power rather than being heroically worthy

Originally posted by CosmicComet
This.

And then the revelation will be that Hulk retained some residual Odin force from wielding Mjolnir.

So he'll become a regular enchanted lightning blaster and have unassisted flight capabilities. When he thunderclaps in the future, it will be accompanied by actual lightning.

Then Cap will retire Thor and say he's no longer needed and should seek therapy for his brain damage.

Originally posted by Philosophía
As it is, you're the one trolling.

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Wow.

Anyway, I got called in to work, so I suppose I'll continue this later today or tomorrow.

You're objectively wrong.

You can't bring yourself to admit that.

I'm willing to have the mods read all the evidence - hell, I'll even send them the issues - to judge whether or not I'm trolling you with invalid evidence, or you're the one trolling by not conceding.

I'll even bet a whole month of banning on it. Hell, six months.

It doesn't have to be official, self-banning is enough.

Will you go through?

The only reason this discussion might be considered trolling/spam is because it's on the character ownage thread.

I'm perfectly in agreement to edit all the posts, and make another thread just for this discussion, so it can be judged there, with the stipulations above.

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everyone be calm.

universal hulk day is a time of peace and the breaking of bread, not discord

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Originally posted by HueyFreeman

What book is this