Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Stop lying.
Sigh...lets go through this again.
Look where Superman lands when he crash into Brainiac ship. He ram into the side of the ship (let me know if I have to draw lines and arrows showing this for you).
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174523-4954823550-P0fv7.jpg
As shown in the above scan, they are pushing against the SIDE OF the ship at the head. Now here is the important part. Read what Martian Manhunter say...
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174523-4954823550-P0fv7.jpg
"We did it Superman, we PUSHED the mothership clear. Nothing was said of stopping it. It was pushed clear from Earth.
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh...lets go through this again.Look where Superman lands when he crash into Brainiac ship. He ram into the side of the ship (let me know if I have to draw lines and arrows showing this for you).
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174523-4954823550-P0fv7.jpg
As shown in the above scan, they are pushing against the SIDE OF the ship at the head. Now here is the important part. Read what Martian Manhunter say...
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174523-4954823550-P0fv7.jpg
"We did it Superman, we PUSHED the mothership clear. Nothing was said of stopping it. It was pushed clear from Earth.
Hmmmm...quick question and i hate to interject buttt...when something is coming towards you like say for example a shopping cart And u reach out and grab hold and push it away. Arent you stopping its forward momentum?
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh...lets go through this again.Look where Superman lands when he crash into Brainiac ship. He ram into the side of the ship (let me know if I have to draw lines and arrows showing this for you).
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174523-4954823550-P0fv7.jpg
As shown in the above scan, they are pushing against the SIDE OF the ship at the head. Now here is the important part. Read what Martian Manhunter say...
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174523-4954823550-P0fv7.jpg
"We did it Superman, we PUSHED the mothership clear. Nothing was said of stopping it. It was pushed clear from Earth.
Are you this dense? In you own quote, you proved you're reading skills.
MM's quote. " We did Superman, we pushed the mothership."
First of all, learn what inertia is. You cannot push something that's already in motion without stopping its initial acceleration. That's first grade science right there.
So Carver, before you can push something, you must first end its acceleration first, unless you who with its acceleration.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hmmmm...quick question and i hate to interject buttt...when something is coming towards you like say for example a shopping cart And u reach out and grab hold and push it away. Arent you stopping its forward momentum?
This is right and would've been correct if they didn't use the word clear.
Originally posted by carver9
This is right and would've been correct if they didn't use the word clear.
Lol.
Read. Use your eyes.
Stop.
Take a deep breath.
Read Sin's post again.
Take some time.
Let it absorb into you.
Breathe.
Re-read, just to be sure.
You're agreeing that you stop its forward momentum, you inbred catamite.
Go outside right now, and go push a car from the side as it drives (slowly) past you directly at your house.
Please report back how you did.
Have some grade school maths:
https://www.le.ac.uk/se/centres/sci/selfstudy/fam3.htm
Originally posted by carver9
This is right and would've been correct if they didn't use the word clear.
Youre reaching carve. Your whole argument (strawman) is based on one word that holds zero relevance to the feat. If a tree is lying in the road blocking my path i can push it clear. Im still doing the heavy lifting. If a rocket came barreling towards me a i fly up and push it clear. Im still stopping said rocket and refirecting it elsewhere. Your stance is weak
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Youre reaching carve. Your whole argument (strawman) is based on one word that holds zero relevance to the feat. If a tree is lying in the road blocking my path i can push it clear. Im still doing the heavy lifting. If a rocket came barreling towards me a i fly up and push it clear. Im still stopping said rocket and refirecting it elsewhere. Your stance is weak
You are doing heavy pushing but stopping something completely is different than pushing something away.
Originally posted by carver9
You are doing heavy pushing but stopping something completely is different than pushing something away.
Maybe the tree example was bad because its stationary..but its impossible to push something away from you without first stopping its forward momentum.
In the above case Clark/John have to 1st overcome the ships propulsion. Think of it like this...youre at a range. You have a high caliber rifle with a huge recoil. U pull the trigger. Now the bullet goes downrange as you (comically) fly backwards. The force of the bullet equals the momentum in which u fly backwards. So u have one negative one positive amount of force going in opposing directions. Now if you managed to overcome the recoil youd replicate per se what the duo did...albeit at a smaller scale
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh...lets go through this again.Look where Superman lands when he crash into Brainiac ship. He ram into the side of the ship (let me know if I have to draw lines and arrows showing this for you).
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174523-4954823550-P0fv7.jpg
As shown in the above scan, they are pushing against the SIDE OF the ship at the head. Now here is the important part. Read what Martian Manhunter say...
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4174523-4954823550-P0fv7.jpg
"We did it Superman, we PUSHED the mothership clear. Nothing was said of stopping it. It was pushed clear from Earth.
Try it now.
Originally posted by Damborgson
I just mean that while benching the planet is obviously above the level of strength feat anyone else in his category can achieve, every time he gets punched a block away by Aquaman his average will feel less impressive. He'd have better acceptance if he treated his peers like non factors moreso than accumulating the plethora of strength feats he has. Otherwise everytime he does something impressive, someone will undoubtedly bring up a showing where he's not as impressive against people in his category.Think of Thanos before Marvel put him in the average readers spotlight. He essentially treated Marvel's top heralds, Thor and Surfer, as non factors. And that was standard. Now he's getting visibly hurt and rocked by metas like Thing or low heralds like Namor. And its lowering his average.
But he is presented as far above anybody else in terms of power. We've been beaten over the head with it time and time again - just in the last 5 years, we've had him ripping in half Doomsday [who was presented as so far above anybody else, nobody on Earth could engage him more than momentarily, and he broke Wonder Woman's arms in moments], we've had Vandal Savage explicitly putting his raw power as far above the combined one of dozens of heroes [Diana, Hal, Captain Marvel and dozens of others], we've had him directly said to have the most raw power in the entire galaxy etc.
Aquaman [a Wonder Woman peer] punching him with no effect doesn't change what his output is, anymore than the hundreds of other times much lower street levelers have affected high heralds [Thor, Surfer, Hulk, Diana etc.]. Or the times Thanos has been affected by teams who have metas in them [Avengers Assemble, Guardians of the Galaxy]. Or the times Ares punched Zeus down, or the time Jane Thor went at it with Odin, or the time Wildcat punched Mordru [who had beaten a 5D Imp in the same run, as well as Shazam], or the times etc. etc. You get what I'm saying.
As much as we joke on the forum, NONE of those change the rankings of Thanos, Odin, Zeus, Mordru etc. The only difference seems to be Superman - who no matter what he does, no matter how many times he's presented as above other heroes to a ridiculous degree, no matter how many times he legitimately overpowers trans or skyfather level characters, it doesn't change his ranking. Why? Well, that's what I'm asking you. Why the double standards?
Originally posted by Philosophía
But he is presented as far above anybody else in terms of power. We've been beaten over the head with it time and time again - just in the last 5 years, we've had him ripping in half Doomsday [who was presented as so far above anybody else, nobody on Earth could engage him more than momentarily, and he broke Wonder Woman's arms in moments], we've had Vandal Savage explicitly putting his raw power as far above the combined one of dozens of heroes [Diana, Hal, Captain Marvel and dozens of others], we've had him directly said to have the most raw power in the entire galaxy etc.Aquaman [a Wonder Woman peer] punching him with no effect doesn't change what his output is, anymore than the hundreds of other times much lower street levelers have affected high heralds [Thor, Surfer, Hulk, Diana etc.]. Or the times Thanos has been affected by teams who have metas in them [Avengers Assemble, Guardians of the Galaxy]. Or the times Ares punched Zeus down, or the time Jane Thor went at it with Odin, or the time Wildcat punched Mordru [who had beaten a 5D Imp in the same run, as well as Shazam], or the times etc. etc. You get what I'm saying.
As much as we joke on the forum, NONE of those change the rankings of Thanos, Odin, Zeus, Mordru etc. The only difference seems to be Superman - who no matter what he does, no matter how many times he's presented as above other heroes to a ridiculous degree, no matter how many times he legitimately overpowers trans or skyfather level characters, it doesn't change his ranking. Why? Well, that's what I'm asking you. Why the double standards?
Not a double standard. Superman simply has more apprearances so we have more feats to average out. Plus alot of that stuff is space cheese which dont really matter.
Triggered.
Ahh the kitchen. A gender joke...the originality of it is awe inspiring. But youre right mister man sir, i should scurry on back and whip up some sammiches for u and the men folk. What could have possibly come over me to think i could parlay with the superior sex. Whoa is me...a thousand pardons.
Listen up phil you insignificant little twwat. I got more comic book knowledge on a single strand of hair off my kunt than you will ever possess in that pathetically fragile little ego of yours. Dont condescend when you ask a basic, simple ass question.
Originally posted by Sin I AMWhen a man sends you to the kitchen, he's not being humorous. He really is hungry.
Ahh the kitchen. A gender joke...the originality of it is awe inspiring. But youre right mister man sir, i should scurry on back and whip up some sammiches for u and the men folk. What could have possibly come over me to think i could parlay with the superior sex. Whoa is me...a thousand pardons.
The fact that you think is a joke is probably the reason you're still here.
So get on with it.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
knowledge on a single strand of hair off my kunt
Maybe that 'kunt hair' of yours should get some knowledge about how to make a goddamn sandwich.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Maybe the tree example was bad because its stationary..but its impossible to push something away from you without first stopping its forward momentum.In the above case Clark/John have to 1st overcome the ships propulsion. Think of it like this...youre at a range. You have a high caliber rifle with a huge recoil. U pull the trigger. Now the bullet goes downrange as you (comically) fly backwards. The force of the bullet equals the momentum in which u fly backwards. So u have one negative one positive amount of force going in opposing directions. Now if you managed to overcome the recoil youd replicate per se what the duo did...albeit at a smaller scale
My example would be the scary plane incident. Thor flying by and notice a plane heading towards a building. He flies over and push the moving plane away from the building. The plane is still moving but he directed it into another path.
