1. I say blame Lucas, play character cliches and blame Sidious not wanting risk people noting wormholes....force storms are VERY destructive things.
3. Probably, but eventually, Ludo and Naga would've been crushed....hell, Ludo and Naga couldn't have worked together for long.
That's so, for the Databank thing...though it's a point against others, and the databank's lacked credibility for a while now....since it refuses to add a lotr of people...
Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. I say blame Lucas, play character cliches and blame Sidious not wanting risk people noting wormholes....force storms are VERY destructive things.3. Probably, but eventually, Ludo and Naga would've been crushed....hell, Ludo and Naga couldn't have worked together for long.
That's so, for the Databank thing...though it's a point against others, and the databank's lacked credibility for a while now....since it refuses to add a lotr of people...
1) Wormholes could also be blamed on Yoda. I'm not going to give up on this particular subject if it fetches me a good point.
3) Perhaps in the end, yes. But not without a fight.
It just added six articles.
If you mean the lack of databanks for characters like Revan and Ragnos, there really isn't enough tangible evidence and info on the two, especially the former.
Originally posted by Escape81
At least I think it's a mind trick.Palpatine told Grievous when the general captured him that he wasn't going to be put on the HoloNet. Grievous repeated the words as if in an order. But Grievous didn't know Palpatine was Sidious, so it had to be a mind trick.
I don't think it was. I don't have the book on hand at the moment, due to carelessness on my part, but I'll be sure to check that part when I find it. However, I never picked up anything that would imply a mind trick.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. Yes, but it could also be an effective suicide. Those things tore apart a fleet....at closer proximity? Palpatine'd be ripped to shreds, along with the entire building.2. Not without a fight, no.
I mean lack on lots of entries completely...
1) Force storms, yes. But localized wormholes such as the ones Sidious used to transport Luke halfway across the galaxy. Unless I'm mistakedn Sidious didn't quite tear apart Coruscant's city-scape then.
I just want to point out here that anyone who has their own opinion that differs from that of George Lucas...
... well, of course, you are free to have your opinion. But I want to point out that, in any official sense, your opinion holds absolutely no value whatsoever, and is purely personal.
We are concerned here with an official franchise, not a fan-created one, or anything like that. Within that franchise, there are facts, Many are misty and hard to determine, which is why sometimes you have to examine the evidence to come up with the best conclusion that you can.
But if facts are STATED- by, say, GL, or as Lightsnake has also pointed out, the author of the stories in question... then that is the end of the matter. The fact has been stated, and then any other evidence has to be viewed and re-assessed in light of that fact, or possibily rejected altogether as incorrect- as has happened before in the EU, from Splinter onwards.
Hence... if GL has indeed said that Sidious is the strongest of all time, or the creator of the Sith Lords in question has stated that he did not intend them to be greater than Sidious... then that's it. Argument over.
Assuming these statements did indeed happen, then anyone who thinks otherwise is simply, in any official sense, wrong.
At least we recently found out that Sidious may have known almost all ways of lightsaber fighting wich he could use to confuse or surprise his opponents. This is probably the idea in him immediately slaying the jedi masters wich entered the room.
And if it's true, then I assume that he was even far superior to even Dooku.. Of course everybody can slip up. But I think the whole idea behind the character Sidious is that he is indeed the master tutor in lightsaber dueling.
The thing that annoys me the most is that there has come a general notion on the forums here strictly against Sidious and also Vader because of negotiating and agreeing with so called 'master debators' wich lead to people immediately spouting out stuff like "this one>that one" without feeling a need to give arguments and if you do go against it, then you're just considered crazy.
The board gets a little too aggressive some times when it comes to different opinions as if its a matter of life and death.
At least we recently found out that Sidious may have known almost all ways of lightsaber fighting wich he could use to confuse or surprise his opponents. This is probably the idea in him immediately slaying the jedi masters wich entered the room.
And if it's true, then I assume that he was even far superior to even Dooku.. Of course everybody can slip up. But I think the whole idea behind the character Sidious is that he is indeed the master tutor in lightsaber dueling.
Ah, Pure bullshit.
Sidious knowing of all Lightsaber Forms? Why didn't he defeat Yoda or Mace Windu then? I don't give me this circumstantial shit that Sidious faked the fight because George Lucas says he does not and if you read Ushgarak's post or if you have a shred of Intelligence (Or you don't have the IQ of a five year old) Then you'll know the Man was defeated by Windu fairly.
He couldn't break past Yoda's defense to defeat him. Or was he faking that fight too? The man didn't know all the forms of Lightsaber Combat. That's an outrageous statement.
The thing that annoys me the most is that there has come a general notion on the forums here strictly against Sidious and also Vader because of negotiating and agreeing with so called 'master debators' wich lead to people immediately spouting out stuff like "this one>that one" without feeling a need to give arguments and if you do go against it, then you're just considered crazy.
The board gets a little too aggressive some times when it comes to different opinions as if its a matter of life and death.
^ Okay.
Originally posted by Escape81
Kevin J. Anderson stated that his Exar Kun was to be on a lower tier than Emperor Palpatine.
This man prints various Star Wars Novels, correct?
Haven't Novelists been known to create books sometimes due in favor of a Character they like?
Does this Novelist have any relation to Lucasfilm? Or Lucasarts?
Haven't a variety of Star Wars books contradicted Movie fact time and time again?
What proof does some Novelist give us? None!
The only slice of Star Wars he gives us is the knowledge he has gathered and his personal opinion at best.
Originally posted by Ezekiel
This man prints various Star Wars Novels, correct?Haven't Novelists been known to create books sometimes due in favor of a Character they like?
Does this Novelist have any relation to Lucasfilm? Or Lucasarts?
Haven't a variety of Star Wars books contradicted Movie fact time and time again?
What proof does some Novelist give us? None!
The only slice of Star Wars he gives us is the knowledge he has gathered and his personal opinion at best.
He created Exar Kun.
Oh, Mr. Anderson did far more than create Exar Kun. He created Ulic, he created Marka Ragnos, Freedon Nadd, Naga Sadow...his comics, Tales of the Jedi were what allowed KOTOR to even exist. That was one of the few times Lucas took interest and shared his concepts with Anderson.
Palpatine may be stronger in the force than Mace, but Windu is a better duelist, much younger and uses a style Sidious couldn't have known-And according to Nick Gillard, Sidious is a master of every weapon and style, though we're to assume it means no Vaapad. Plus, the fight wasn't over yet any more than it was whenMaul had Obi-wan on the ropes.
Lucas meant to show that Yoda and Palpatine were dead equals in the fight as well and in the ROTS novelization, Yoda realizes he cannot win and he'll die if the fight continues.
Just because you KNOW a lot of forms doesn't mean you're gonna beat a guy who's a master and your equal. Mace and Dooku anyone? Qui-Gon and Maul?
Sidious knowing of all Lightsaber Forms? Why didn't he defeat Yoda or Mace Windu then? I don't give me this circumstantial shit that Sidious faked the fight because George Lucas says he does not and if you read Ushgarak's post or if you have a shred of Intelligence (Or you don't have the IQ of a five year old) Then you'll know the Man was defeated by Windu fairly.
He couldn't break past Yoda's defense to defeat him. Or was he faking that fight too? The man didn't know all the forms of Lightsaber Combat. That's an outrageous statement.
You are acting like it would mean that he would win every fight by default if he indeed knew it.
Fact is, that the best duelist doesn't always win and Mace obviously wasn't impressed by the insane moves of Sidious and he overcame him somehow.
But Sidious can indeed know a whole lot of lightsaber styles and I believe it was Gillard or someone who stated that Sidious knows them all.
It does contain some logic because he was Maul's tutor and must have known the form Maul uses to teach him and Sidious himself displayed features performed in Ataru and a whole lot of other arguments wich are cited in the thread with this actual topic.
It is indeed very highly probable that theory is fact.
But of course knowing all forms or even being the best doesn't always mean that one wins as shown in SW countless times but I'm sure Escape already pointed this out to you but I'm too hung over and lazy to read everything.
But I think that Sidious was probably the best and most experienced tutor followed closely by Yoda.