Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Clone wars overpowers characters? Since when?And LMAO. How do those 3 feats exaggerate Yoda's power?
FOOL,SECURITY GUARDS ESPECIALLY A CAPTAIN WON'T BE FOOLED BY THAT. PLUS THOSE LANDING PLATFORMS ARE HUGE NOT EVEN YODA COULD DO PUSH TWO TOGETHER WITHOUT SHOWING THE LEAST BIT OF EFFORT. GET OFF OF THE DRUGS AND THINK BEFORE YOU POST.
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Hardly. Mace has shown far greater feats in the CW cartoons, Shatterpoint, The Movies and other EU related stuff.Prove that Mace couldn't do it.
That was because Anakin had just sliced his arm off and he was in agony.
I'm sorry but as I recall Windu was hardly regarded as a threat to DOOKU. Now on the other hand this same man ran away from Yoda twice. I mean Mace was disposed of by two droids in Obsession. Yoda wasn't GRAND master for nothin 😠
Originally posted by Hokage Yoda
I'm sorry but as I recall Windu was hardly regarded as a threat to DOOKU. Now on the other hand this same man ran away from Yoda twice. I mean Mace was disposed of by two droids in Obsession. Yoda wasn't GRAND master for nothin 😠
No. Mace was considered by Dooku a threat. Second only to Yoda.
Yes, Nebaris. Yoda held higher seniority and a higher rank than Mace, and forced Dooku to flee both times they engaged in battle.
Originally posted by Hokage Yoda
However when did dooku fear mace as he did Yoda 😉
I'm sorry... I think you must have misinterpreted what I said.
I agreed that Dooku considered Yoda more of a threat than Mace. But, I disagreed with the statement that Dooku didn't consider Mace a threat at all.
He did.
And as for Dooku fearing Yoda... I don't think it was really a fear. I think it was a grudging respect for his superior abilities that Dooku's own arrogance refused to let budge.
If Dooku feared anyone, he feared Darth Sidious the most. After all, despite Yoda's advantage and superiority over Dooku, Dooku didn't shrink away from confronting him (AotC and Dark Rendezvous). He just fled when he knew that he couldn't win.
Originally posted by jedi_tek
i change my mind for force strength ...i think anakin would go between kit and obi. so more like:
1)yoda
2)sidious
3)dooku
4)mace
5)kit fisto
6)anakin
7)obi-wan
8)cin drallig
9)depa
10)shaak timaybe anakin would be tied with fisto mmm...not sure.
Kit's above Anakin in Force Strength?
I'd like to know how you define Force Strength. If you mean in terms of Force connection and attunement, then Anakin would be number one, with Sidious and Yoda being tied for number two.
The order is this.
1. Yoda/Sidious
2. Yoda/Sidious
3. Windu
4. Anakin
5. Dooku
6. Obi-Wan
7-10 don't matter much really, though I suppose 7 could go to Cin, at least in saber abilities.
Now as for the Mace > Yoda stuff? WTF??? are you (mostly Nebaris) kidding me?
LOL 😆
Mace has stated on 3 occasions that he was Yoda's inferior. And one was in direct response to him having to lift a landing craft off a cliff. Which he stated that he COULD NOT DO, but Yoda would simply "lift it up and float it to safety while uttering one of his maxims" Mace then admits in the next sentence that since he is not capable of doing something that requires that kind of power, and so he would have to be more creative. Then, later he admits that Kar Vastor is stronger then he is (in raw force power), and then says that Kar is on the same level as "Yoda or Young Anakin Skywalker". THEN as Escape81 pointed out, in Dark Rendezvous, Windu himself says again to Palpatine that "he is not Yoda's equal in peace or war".
People (mostly Nebaris) are just being utterly foolish.
Yoda>Mace in everything.
and since Yoda and Sidious stalemated, Sidious>Mace in force power... Although maybe equal in saber combat at least Sidious>Mace in force power, by a lot.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
7-10 don't matter much really, though I suppose 7 could go to Cin, at least in saber abilities.
Not a bad list, just saying I'd put Depa Billaba above Cin (if you'd put Cin for 7). She mastered Form VII, and Vaapad, as well she's noted as a master swordsman (or swordswoman). Yoda also speaks volumes on Depa's behalf.
Personally, I'd go with Escape's list though. Adding Depa Billaba, and Cin Drallig for the 7 and 8 slots.
Originally posted by Motoko Sama
Not a bad list, just saying I'd put Depa Billaba above Cin (if you'd put Cin for 7). She mastered Form VII, and Vaapad, and considering she's noted as a master swordsman (or swordswoman) as well. Yoda also speaks volumes on Depa's behalf.Personally, I'd go with Escape's list though. Adding Depa Billaba, and Cin Drallig for the 7 and 8 slots.
Motoko also left out the part that she'd go with my list because she's madly in love with me.
Just like Rex and Ush are. 😐
Originally posted by Escape81
Actually . . . I [B]think it is this.1. Master Yoda/Darth Sidious
2. Master Yoda/Darth Sidious
3. Anakin Skywalker
4. Mace Windu (I consider him to be Dooku's superior by a slight margin)
5. Count Dooku
6. Obi-Wan
7-10... I dunno. 😖 [/B]
Yea I had actually thought about putting Anakin higher. I think that in reality Dooku and Windu are about equal. Equal enough to stalemate. But Anakin beat Dooku, so he goes above Dooku. But there's just something that tells me he wouldn't fair as well against Windu. I just don't think Anakin has the discipline to beat Windu's Vaapad. Nor would Anakin be able to overwhelm Windu with his strength or speed like he did Dooku. It'd be close, but as of ROTS, I'm inclined to give the fight to Windu.
But in terms of numbering everyone, its prolly more like
1. Yoda/Sidious
2. Yoda/Sidious
3. Mace/Anakin/Dooku
4. Mace/Anakin/Dooku
5. Mace/Anakin/Dooku
6. Obi-Wan.
But I still think Mace would beat Anakin, though thats just my opinion.
Although maybe equal in saber combat at least Sidious>Mace in force power, by a lot.
No. Sidious couldn't even last 3 minutes against him in a saber fight. Force powers are great 'n all, but Mace's saber pretty much made his "awesome force power!" obsolete.
1. Yoda
2. Palpatine (Based on the alleged disarment and Palpy screaming near the end; either way they're virtual equals)
3. Mace Windu
4. Count Dooku
5. Anakin Skywalker
6. Depa Billaba
7. Obi-Wan Kenobi
8. Sora Bulq
9. Asajj Ventress
10. Cin Drallig
* Yes, Anakin beat the Count. For some strange reason people are quick to put Anakin over Dooku and not Mace over Sidious and Depa over Mace. It... can't only work one way.
Originally posted by Generic Hero
No. Sidious couldn't even last 3 minutes against him in a saber fight. Force powers are great 'n all, but Mace's saber pretty much made his "awesome force power!" obsolete.1. Yoda
2. Palpatine (Based on the alleged disarment and Palpy screaming near the end; either way they're virtual equals)
3. Mace Windu
4. Count Dooku
5. Anakin Skywalker
6. Depa Billaba
7. Obi-Wan Kenobi
8. Sora Bulq
9. Asajj Ventress
10. Cin Drallig* Yes, Anakin beat the Count. For some strange reason people are quick to put Anakin over Dooku and not Mace over Sidious and Depa over Mace. It... can't only work one way.
I agree with this list except I would put the Count and Mace on the same level. There simply isnt enough evidence to prove ones superiority over the other.