Nom Anor VS Kir Kanos

Started by Lightsnake7 pages

Because moving back to the wall beats sitting in one place while the Jedi master moves forward to skewer you through the place and gives you an area of leverage so noone can blindside or get behind you? We've seen Palpatine in worse situations before and he's never begged, not once...in Empire's End, his last words were simple hatred. In DE, he cursed Anakin Solo.

And Lucas said Dark Side exertion turned his face to the emperor's we know.

Because moving back to the wall beats sitting in one place while the Jedi master moves forward to skewer you through the place and gives you an area of leverage so noone can blindside or get behind you?

We've seen Palpatine in worse situations before and he's never begged, not once...in Empire's End, his last words were simple hatred. In DE, he cursed Anakin Solo.

All I heard on ROTJ was "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

He wasn't moving forward to skewer him. He would have shoved his Lightsaber through him in the wall at Sidious' dead end if he wanted to kill him right away. Sidious moved because he was scared, man.

And Lucas said Dark Side exertion turned his face to the emperor's we know.

Lightning isn't the Dark side and using it isn't exertion of it? C'mon now, man!

Good thing ROTJ wasn't his final death.

And 'Using Dark Side power' isn't 'having it reflected in your face.' Lucas made no mention it was the lightning scarring him whatsoever. And when you see a man slowly stalking towards you with a saber, you MOVE and the wall was the safest place

Good thing ROTJ wasn't his final death.

Bad thing that the Ancient Sith spirits you claim are so weak compared to him resurrected his sorry little spirit.

And 'Using Dark Side power' isn't 'having it reflected in your face.' Lucas made no mention it was the lightning scarring him whatsoever. And when you see a man slowly stalking towards you with a saber, you MOVE and the wall was the safest place

Did Lucas mention it was him who did it on purpose? No, and don't you DARE try to assume so because we both know he didn't.

It isn't? Using Dark side powers and then having them come back at your face is exertion of Dark Side powers. Especially Lightning.

He wasn't stalking him. He would've continued and killed Sidious if he was meaning to stab him. Sidious was scared and Mace knew that.

The Ancient Sith ressurected him? Yeah right...after Endor he possessed Jeng Droga and went to Byss to his clones. Until Empire's End, the Ancient Sith hadn't seen him in ten years.

Exertion would be using it...having it reflected in your face is it 'backfiring'...and again, lightning in your face doesn't change your teeth, hair,, voice, eyebrows or turn your eyes yellow. Mace meant to capture him and was menacing him with a saber anyways. Which was suicidal to the extreme as it was

The Ancient Sith ressurected him? Yeah right...after Endor he possessed Jeng Droga and went to Byss to his clones. Until Empire's End, the Ancient Sith hadn't seen him in ten years.

Sorry to ruin your party, but...

After his spirit was resurrected from the netherworld of the Force by the Dark Lord ghosts of Korriban, Palpatine took possession of the body of the Emperor's Hand Jeng Droga

Exertion would be using it...having it reflected in your face is it 'backfiring'...and again, lightning in your face doesn't change your teeth, hair,, voice, eyebrows or turn your eyes yellow. Mace meant to capture him and was menacing him with a saber anyways. Which was suicidal to the extreme as it was

Actually, Exertion can expand to a great deal of things.

Backfiring? Dude, not at all.

Suicidal? It seemed Palpatine f*cking with Mace was Suicidal, because he got overpowered.

Of course the Dark Side energies twisted his Avatar, but HIS FACE MELTING was a product of Lightning.

Source. In Empire's End, they say they hadn't seen him in ten years. What I read says: After the destruction of the second Death Star, Palpatine's spirit was forced to journey in the maddening, bodiless existence of the void, eventually taking possession of the body of Emperor's Hand Jeng Droga. Though Droga went mad in the process, he was able to journey to Byss, where Palpatine was able to take possession of a clone of himself.

The lightning twisted his face? Which is why, in Sithisis, we see him change his face at will?

I'd dispute that Wiki article....it says right after SATE PESTAGE channeled Palp's spirit into a clone....Sate wasn't a force sensitive and the Korriban Ghosts didn't show up until EE and any involvement with Palp is never even hinted at

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Source. In Empire's End, they say they hadn't seen him in ten years. What I read says: After the destruction of the second Death Star, Palpatine's spirit was forced to journey in the maddening, bodiless existence of the void, eventually taking possession of the body of Emperor's Hand Jeng Droga. Though Droga went mad in the process, he was able to journey to Byss, where Palpatine was able to take possession of a clone of himself.

The lightning twisted his face? Which is why, in Sithisis, we see him change his face at will?

The evil energies twisted Palpatine's face as they flowed through him, scarring and disfiguring his once handsome features. His eyes burned yellow, his voice grew ragged and deep, and he became a well of dark side energies.

Ah... His eyes burned yellow.

Scarring and disfiguring?

The Official Star Wars Website isn't no damn wikipedia, Lightsnake.

Burned Sith yellow? Lightning would blind you, not turn your eyes the exat shade of yellow Sith have

STILL no explanation to how Lucas says otherwise and the EU is explicitly clear otherwise

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Burned Sith yellow? Lightning would blind you, not turn your eyes the exat shade of yellow Sith have

STILL no explanation to how Lucas says otherwise and the EU is explicitly clear otherwise

Lucas doesn't say otherwise on my part either, now does he?

Lightning would blind you?

Dude, this isn't real life. It's Star Wars and it's Dark sided, no good uber powerful Lightning.

We saw Mace charred to the bone and he was cosmetically fine...Luke had lying coming out his mouth and his face didn't suffer....Lucas says it was the exertion of the Dark side changing him. He said NOTHING along the lines of lightning scarring him

Originally posted by Lightsnake
We saw Mace charred to the bone and he was cosmetically fine...Luke had lying coming out his mouth and his face didn't suffer....Lucas says it was the exertion of the Dark side changing him. He said NOTHING along the lines of lightning scarring him

He was EXERTING a Dark side power on himself.

Mace wasn't blasted as long and Palpatine was keeping the Lightning to a minimum with Luke as means of Torture.

Funny how that's not what Lucas says at all. Never says anything about it being reflected back at him at all.

And at the end, Palpatine had stopped torturing Luke...and Mace was blasted long enough for his face to wither...happened to Palp almost instantly

Funny how that's not what Lucas says at all. Never says anything about it being reflected back at him at all.

Oh yeah. It wasn't reflected back it him.

I seem to recall it hitting Anakin. 🙄

I don't seem to recall Lucas saying that Palpatine had hidden his face in Dark Side cloaking OR that he made that happen to his face by will.

And at the end, Palpatine had stopped torturing Luke...and Mace was blasted long enough for his face to wither...happened to Palp almost instantly

No. Mace was not blasted as long as Palpatine was. THAT is quite obvious.

Luke wasn't blasted as long as Palpatine in that situation either.

This is, of course, not to mention the fact that Palpatine was being hit with his own lightning, reflected off a lightsaber. In the other cases you repeatedly cite, Lightsnake, the lightning came directly from the source, hitting someone who was not the source.

Originally posted by IKC
This is, of course, not to mention the fact that Palpatine was being hit with his own lightning, reflected off a lightsaber. In the other cases you repeatedly cite, Lightsnake, the lightning came directly from the source, hitting someone who was not the source.

That's a good point as well.

Yes, because that'd make a lick of difference. Did Lucas say Palpatine's use of the Dark Side had turned his face into the Emperor we'd know later and the EU has shown him altering his face at will...

And when Palpatine was hit, his face was deformed almost instantly. Mace was charred to the bone and his face remained totally fine when he was hurled away. Blasted long enough for face to melt totally? Maybe not, but for face to change somewhat? Yep

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yes, because that'd make a lick of difference. Did Lucas say Palpatine's use of the Dark Side had turned his face into the Emperor we'd know later and the EU has shown him altering his face at will...

And when Palpatine was hit, his face was deformed almost instantly. Mace was charred to the bone and his face remained totally fine when he was hurled away. Blasted long enough for face to melt totally? Maybe not, but for face to change somewhat? Yep

For all you know, Palpatines first blast was like Uber Powerful.

His second blast was mean't to keep Mace there for a bit of Torture-time.

Then he just blasted him out of the window.

Proof it was to torture Mace.