Originally posted by Jose123
the problem is he has to land a hit.But I have to admit if he can land a hit or two DD is getting knocked the **** out.
So this match depends on Matt using his speed and agility and super senes to avoid Bats hits for most of the fight. If he can do that then he can win.
Just remeber yall, Batman has been called to save the universe, he was the only non super powered being along with Forager of the bug society to be rounded up by HighFather and Darksied in the Cosmic Odyssey series by DC.
The others that where called Superman, New gods Orion & Lightray, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, & Starfire of the Teen Titans.
Batman and DD are about equal in strength, or close enough that its a non factor. DD has a slight speed and agility advantage, but by much to matter either. Batman is a master of 147 different styles, which makes him a very unorthodox opponent but Daredevil's own personal style will also through Batman off. Daredevil does win this fight though due to his senses. When compared they are basically equals but Batman won't be able to last against a foe who can predict his attacks, sense feints, judge intensity of his attacks while noting Batman's vunerable areas. Batman can't counter that w/o his gadgets. DD's senses put him over the edge here. DD 8/10
Originally posted by unknowable
Just remeber yall, Batman has been called to save the universe, he was the only non super powered being along with Forager of the bug society to be rounded up by HighFather and Darksied in the Cosmic Odyssey series by DC.The others that where called Superman, New gods Orion & Lightray, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, & Starfire of the Teen Titans.
That's because he's the top selling character in DC, not because he can go h2h with Superman...
His majesty has the right idea. Tell em, sir prince. Tell em.
Originally posted by srankmissingninDitto
Basically Daredevil is the best of Batman and Nightwing in one package. He is as strong and skilled as Bruce and as fast and agile as Dick but ontop of that he also has a radar senses and superhuman reaction time. H2H with out any weapons is DDs fight and he gets the majority of wins 7 perhaps even 8 out of 10. To think that Bruce can get the majority of wins in these fight is absurd.
Originally posted by Juntai
Bruce would smash Daredevil seriously, I don't even see how you find a comparison between the two.Batman couldn't win in less than 5 hits?
Please, it's documented in the comics, Batman can punch much harder than it takes to crush a human skull.
Maybe Batman could win in five hits. Not where the problem lies. Daredevil could probably could take Batman down in five also. The thing is Daredevil's senses make it easy for him to predict and dodge Batman's attacks. Batman doesn't have this advantage. Daredevil can use his radar to map out all of Batman's weak points, again a luxury Batman doesn't have. DD wins.
Oh, and thanx Dizzle. Nice to know i have subjects...i mean friends out there. lol
Originally posted by marvelprinceThe problem would be landing the blows neccisary to down Batman, who's above and beyond a superior fighter, who trains harder,... and Batman doesn't need a radar sense to plan out weak points, he does it with plain intellect and experience. Daredevil is really no higher class of fighter than Nightwing just he has better senses, but that doesn't equate to effectiveness in combat. Seeing something and utilizing or taking advantage of a situation are entirely different things...and Nightwing can't lay a hand on Batman as seen in Bruce Wayne murder. Likewise Batgirl is far out of Daredevil's league in terms of skill, and Batman outclassed her in a few moves.
Maybe Batman could win in five hits. Not where the problem lies. Daredevil could probably could take Batman down in five also. The thing is Daredevil's senses make it easy for him to predict and dodge Batman's attacks. Batman doesn't have this advantage. Daredevil can use his radar to map out all of Batman's weak points, again a luxury Batman doesn't have. DD wins.Oh, and thanx Dizzle. Nice to know i have subjects...i mean friends out there. lol
Originally posted by Jose123
Well no weapons automatically puts Batman at a disadvantage.
add the fact that with his Radar sense DD should be able to avoid most of Bats hit. then add DD advantage in speed and agility not to say bats is slow it's just DD is the more faster and agile of the two.i give this to DD 7/10 times without any Pis or Cis.
if this was written in a actual comic though then bats would be written as being so fast that even DD can't figure out his next move will be while at the same time figuring out what Matt's secret identity really is and knowing what he like to drink in his coffee and whither he like to take summer walks in the park while at the same time figuring out he's blind all by just looking at him.
Logic and clear power advantage don't mean jack shit to Batman's mighty jobber aura.
I agree with every single thing you just said. Except Batman would've also discovered the cure for cancer while sipping his coffee while fighting Daredevil.
But seriously. DD should win 7/10.
the problem is he has to land a hit.But I have to admit if he can land a hit or two DD is getting knocked the **** out.
So this match depends on Matt using his speed and agility and super senes to avoid Bats hits for most of the fight. If he can do that then he can win.
Agreed but this is assuming batman to down play his opponents abilities and I don't think down playing other peoples ability is part of batman vocab.
Just remeber yall, Batman has been called to save the universe, he was the only non super powered being along with Forager of the bug society to be rounded up by HighFather and Darksied in the Cosmic Odyssey series by DC.The others that where called Superman, New gods Orion & Lightray, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, & Starfire of the Teen Titans.
Impressive
I see alot of DD supposed wins depend on his radar to predict moves, what if batman can do the same...?
DD is faster than batman but not by much which makes this a 5 to 5 split in wins for both combatants. And if they really want to know who is the best between the two of them and so host one final match. I see batman winning batman on the fact that he can take alot of punishment....alot of punishment. So see DD with his speed advantage will land more punches than batman and unless he goes straight to the vital parts batman it is going to win. (That is ofcourse batman does not realize where his opponent is headed)
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I see alot of DD supposed wins depend on his radar to predict moves, what if batman can do the same...?DD is faster than batman but not by much which makes this a 5 to 5 split in wins for both combatants. And if they really want to know who is the best between the two of them and so host one final match. I see batman winning batman on the fact that he can take alot of punishment....alot of punishment. So see DD with his speed advantage will land more punches than batman and unless he goes straight to the vital parts batman it is going to win. (That is ofcourse batman does not realize where his opponent is headed)
What if Batman can do the same? You mean predict his opponents next move by using his superpowers?
I don't know, I still see Batman taking DD because of his superior(by far)fighting skill,
Fighting
Batman - 10
Daredevil - 8
Agility
Batman - 8
Daredevil - 9
Spiderman and above would be 10.
Strength
Batman - 8
Daredevil - 8 1/2
Although I believe through history Batman has fought much tougher opponents, this suggest while not being stronger than DD(slightly), he probably has such a great knowledge of how to use the strength he has, that strength becomes nearly obsolete.
Intelligence/wisdom/improvisation
Batman - 10
Daredevil - 8
Total
Batman - 36
Daredevil - 33 1/2
Batman takes it !!!
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I see alot of DD supposed wins depend on his radar to predict moves, what if batman can do the same...?DD is faster than batman but not by much which makes this a 5 to 5 split in wins for both combatants. And if they really want to know who is the best between the two of them and so host one final match. I see batman winning batman on the fact that he can take alot of punishment....alot of punishment. So see DD with his speed advantage will land more punches than batman and unless he goes straight to the vital parts batman it is going to win. (That is ofcourse batman does not realize where his opponent is headed)
Batman is nowhere near DD level of move prediction/anticipation/countering. Part of what makes DD so great is not only that he is a great fighter, but that he moves with an opponents. That he predicts his opponents action and then counters them. eg If you go to kick someone, normally they would block or attempt to dodge. If that person was Daredevil then they would probably counter your kick with a jump kick, or low kick. He would attack when your most vunerable, which is when your attacking. And against a powerless, gadgetless Batman DD wins
Originally posted by JuntaiHe can't win if he can't land a punch, logically DD IS faster...
Bruce would smash Daredevil seriously, I don't even see how you find a comparison between the two.Batman couldn't win in less than 5 hits?
Please, it's documented in the comics, Batman can punch much harder than it takes to crush a human skull.