Did they say he didn't die, or did they fail to mention it?
Also, Jesus was beaten and then killed on the cross to fulfill the Messianic prophecies.
"His appearance was disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness." Isaiah 52:14
"But he was PIERCED for our transgressions.." Isaiah 53:5
"They will look on me, the one they have PIERCED..." Zechariah 12:10
And he did die because he had to to be the Christ. Anyone who claims that he did not die on the cross is saying that is not the Christ. For the prophecies say:
"because he poured out his life unto DEATH..." Isaiah 53:12
Christ DIED for our sins on the cross because he was the Messiah- the fulfillment of the OT prophecies.
"He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors" Isaiah 53:12.
"And though the Lord makes his life a guilt offering" Isaiah 53:10.
Then Jesus rose from the dead.
"Nor will you let your Holy One see decay" Psalm 16:10.
"He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing justice and righteousness from that time on and FOREVER" Isaiah 9:7. Jesus must will last forever because he did not die.
And God makes a new convenant of eternal life through Jesus.
"I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people.." Isaiah 49:8
What is this covenant? John 3:16.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Did they say he didn't die, or did they fail to mention it?Also, Jesus was beaten and then killed on the cross to fulfill the Messianic prophecies.
"His appearance was disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness." Isaiah 52:14
"But he was PIERCED for our transgressions.." Isaiah 53:5
"They will look on me, the one they have PIERCED..." Zechariah 12:10And he did die because he had to to be the Christ. Anyone who claims that he did not die on the cross is saying that is not the Christ. For the prophecies say:
"because he poured out his life unto DEATH..." Isaiah 53:12Christ DIED for our sins on the cross because he was the Messiah- the fulfillment of the OT prophecies.
"He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors" Isaiah 53:12.
"And though the Lord makes his life a guilt offering" Isaiah 53:10.Then Jesus rose from the dead.
"Nor will you let your Holy One see decay" Psalm 16:10.
"He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing justice and righteousness from that time on and FOREVER" Isaiah 9:7. Jesus must will last forever because he did not die.And God makes a new convenant of eternal life through Jesus.
"I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people.." Isaiah 49:8
What is this covenant? John 3:16.
This is your belief, or in other words, your mythology. I am happy if this works for you and you are wise enough to only do good, but it is not the only way.
Originally posted by Templares
Assuming that all 3 books are "divinely-inspired", its the Bible's word against 2 other Holy Books. The numbers favor the account of Jesus NOT DYING on the cross 😗 😂.
There isn't anything "holy" or "divine" about the Koran or IIRC. The holy Bible IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD--according to my basis (i.e., the Bible). 🙂
Originally posted by Templares
Assuming that all 3 books are "divinely-inspired", its the Bible's word against 2 other Holy Books. The numbers favor the account of Jesus NOT DYING on the cross 😗 😂.
There isn't anything "holy" or "divine" about the Koran or IIRC. The holy Bible IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD--according to my basis (i.e., the Bible). 🙂
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This is your belief, or in other words, your mythology. I am happy if this works for you and you are wise enough to only do good, but it is not the only way.
There is NOTHING mythological about the contents of the holy Bible. Let's read what Peter (one of Jesus' chief apostles) had to say about Jesus:
2 Peter 1:16
For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is NOTHING mythological about the contents of the holy Bible. Let's read what Peter (one of Jesus' chief apostles) had to say about Jesus:[B]2 Peter 1:16
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For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were 🙂 .
So, you use mythology to show that it's not mythology. 🙄
The bible is mythology.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is NOTHING mythological about the contents of the holy Bible. Let's read what Peter (one of Jesus' chief apostles) had to say about Jesus:[B]2 Peter 1:16
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For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty.
Had to repost to fix typo.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is NOTHING mythological about the contents of the holy Bible. Let's read what Peter (one of Jesus' chief apostles) had to say about Jesus:[B]2 Peter 1:16
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For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty.
You see nothing in the Bible, nothing at all, that resembles other religions that came before Christianity? You see nothing similar between Jesus and other figures of religious nature that predated Jesus?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is NOTHING mythological about the contents of the holy Bible. Let's read what Peter (one of Jesus' chief apostles) had to say about Jesus:[B]2 Peter 1:16
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For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty.
American Heritage Dictionary
fableNOUN:
1 A usually short narrative making an edifying or cautionary point and often employing as characters animals that speak and act like humans.
2 A story about legendary persons and exploits.
3 A falsehood; a lie.
2 Peter 1:16 is referring to fable as a falsehood or a lie. This does not conflict with the idea that the Bible is a mythological text.
American Heritage Dictionary
mythNOUN:
1 [list=a][*]A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society: the myth of Eros and Psyche; a creation myth.
[*]Such stories considered as a group: the realm of myth.
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2 A popular belief or story that has become associated with a person, institution, or occurrence, especially one considered to illustrate a cultural ideal: a star whose fame turned her into a myth; the pioneer myth of suburbia.
3 A fiction or half-truth, especially one that forms part of an ideology.
4 A fictitious story, person, or thing: "German artillery superiority on the Western Front was a myth" (Leon Wolff).
The Bible does constitute a myth. It fulfills definitions 1 and 2. Also, many Christians consider many stories in the Old Testament to be fictional in illustrating a spiritual truth, this makes parts of the Bible, depending on the view of the reader, a myth by definition 3. Definition 4 is not completely in line, but to fit the term myth only one of the definitions need fit. The Bible constitutes myth without offense to a belief in its accuracy.
Originally posted by Regret
The Bible does constitute a myth. It fulfills definitions 1 and 2. Also, many Christians consider many stories in the Old Testament to be fictional in illustrating a spiritual truth, this makes parts of the Bible, depending on the view of the reader, a myth by definition 3. Definition 4 is not completely in line, but to fit the term myth only one of the definitions need fit. The Bible constitutes myth without offense to a belief in its accuracy.
You are on the money there Regret.
It seems that in the yes of some, that a myth is only associated with a religion or cult or culture no longer functional. This however is not based upon any sort of definition or terminology. Ultimately the Bible does meet the criteria. This, however, doesn't make it any more of less valid as a text, I am not sure why some people take such umbrage at the term myth (I am guessing negative connotations play a part)
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
You are on the money there Regret.It seems that in the yes of some, that a myth is only associated with a religion or cult or culture no longer functional. This however is not based upon any sort of definition or terminology. Ultimately the Bible does meet the criteria. This, however, doesn't make it any more of less valid as a text, I am not sure why some people take such umbrage at the term myth (I am guessing negative connotations play a part)
I think that the common use of the term is in regards to a half-truth, an exaggeration, something akin to a tall-tale. As such common people tend to not understand the definition of the term. Another concern is that by using the term it somehow leads these people to misunderstand the speaker and believe that the speaker is stating that the Bible is not true. It is a valid concern, but one should not deny the fact when it is stated that the Bible is myth, one should merely define the manner that term is being used.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
You see nothing in the Bible, nothing at all, that resembles other religions that came before Christianity? You see nothing similar between Jesus and other figures of religious nature that predated Jesus?
myth - defintion.
1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2. stories or matter of this kind: realm of myth.
3. any invented story, idea, or concept: His account of the event is pure myth.
4. an imaginary or fictitious thing or person.
5. an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.
I think this easily applies to the Bible.