Originally posted by leonheartmm
lmao, exactly WHAT does that scan show or prove?! i see absolutely NUTHING that tells of lucifer's rebellion being the presence's plan or of the presence having power over lucifer{creation as seen does not guaruntee power OVER} it only tells of sameal's rebellion as a way of letting lucifer reflect on his actions, and in the end even the voice ADMITS that it foresaw everythin in sameal's rebellion untill THEN, which mean that the presence is NOT infalliable{n if i hadnt addressed this riduculous scan of urs due to bein tired of tryin to cinvince, u wudv easily manipulated it to PROVE to people that it inded does prove that the presence owns lucifer and everythin he does or creates}
Wrong thread mate. If you wanna debate with me get it together. 🙄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats not what ive been saying at all. Not once in this thread have i tried to present Phoenix as the the supreme being of Marvel. Thats just a misinterpretation on your part and is therefore your problem. I have merely shown why Phoenix is beyond LT whilst also dismissing the notion that TOAA, LTs boss is the supreme being. Why? Because its not stated or supported anywhere. 😉
STOP the bullshit gs, everyone knows u just want pheonix to be the supreme being. heres a SIMPLE question that a thick head like u can also understand,
WHO by your standards is currently the MOST powerful cannon being in marvel?
give me a simple answer to that otherwise itll become obvious that u r trying to manipulate things again, just a plane one word or phrase answer stating a name.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes, but in the edn also that of yours cannot be taen seriously, because it's not canon. So for now, it is like it doesn't exist. You might be right, but for no it doesn't matter at all and shouldn't be deabeted.
What aspect of my ideas are you referring to? You need to be more specific because at the moment i dont have a clue of what youre talking about. There is no aspect of my ideas which arent supported otherwise i wouldnt have and post them. There are however aspects of my ideas that are suggested but not actually outright stated. That would be the Phoenix/God connection, however as we're not talking about that now and also havent been at all in this thread, why would you feel the need to bring that up all of a sudden? How very random lol.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
STOP the bullshit gs, everyone knows u just want pheonix to be the supreme being. heres a SIMPLE question that a thick head like u can also understand,WHO by your standards is currently the MOST powerful cannon being in marvel?
give me a simple answer to that otherwise itll become obvious that u r trying to manipulate things again, just a plane one word or phrase answer stating a name.
Dont talk to me with that tone and expect me to comply son. 😉
You made an assumption, an incorrect and quite foolish assumption and you need to accept that. You made the misinterpretation. Your fault not mine.
Most powerful canon being shown in Marvel imo is the White Crown Phoenix.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
That would be the Phoenix/God connection,.
I thought about that. Anyway you are saying TOAA cannot be said as supreme being, true, but in no way you also cannot say TOAA is not the supreme being. You don't have clue, as I don't have. So when you say TOAA is not the supreme, yu are wrong, when I say TOAA is the supreme, I am wrong. We should leva TOAA out of it, bcause you don't know anything about it as I don't.
Originally posted by Xplosive
I thought about that. Anyway you are saying TOAA cannot be said as supreme being, true, but in no way you also cannot say TOAA is not the supreme being. You don't have clue, as I don't have. So when you say TOAA is not the supreme, yu are wrong, when I say TOAA is the supreme, I am wrong. We should leva TOAA out of it, bcause you don't know anything about it as I don't.
That form of argument doesnt work in debates XP. In debates if you make claims you have to first and foremost prove they are the case. There are no statements on panel saying that TOAA is the supreme being so for me to say that in terms of canon TOAA isnt the supreme being i would be very much correct. For it to be canon it would require a direct statement. In light of that for you to treat TOAA as canon supreme being like you have been doing then you are very much wrong.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
That form of argument doesnt work in debates XP. In debates if you make claims you have to first and foremost prove they are the case. There are no statements on panel saying that TOAA is the supreme being so for me to say that in terms of canon TOAA isnt the supreme being i would be very much correct. For it to be canon it would require a direct statement. In light of that for you to treat TOAA as canon supreme being like you have been doing then you are very much wrong.
No, because it also doesn't say TOAA isn't the supreme being, so you are not correct. You are really stuborn, you don't have a clue about TOAA, so we should leave TOAA out if it. You are not correct, believe me. This TOAA is not like Celestial TOAA. It's not anywhere saying he isn't the he supreme being (which we could say hence his name), but because it doesn't say, we cannot say he is the supreme being. So you are also not correct. You are extremly wrong.
I will tell you something. When you were in ideas of Phoenix Force being part of TOAA, you were saying TOAA is the supreme, because that also made your beloved Phoenix something like supreme. When KMC members finally somehow show you that you are not correct about ideas, because they are only ideas, you stop using them. Since than you changed your mind about TOAA being supreme. You know why, I will tell you!
Now you know Pheonix Force is not part of TOAA, due to that (and your previous thinking, when you thought TOAA being supreme), you, we all know something is beyond your beloved Phoenix, like TOAA, something that is unacceptable for you. And now you are making something to not give TOAA to be supreme (unlike before), only because, that something isn't beyond your beloved Phoenix. Only to convince yourself, Pheonix is the supreme, well, it's not. Before it wasn't the problem, it's part of the Almighty (why before you weren't saying things about TOAA like you are saying now).
You just cannot think somenthing might actully be beyond Phoenix, that is your problem. For you it's unacceptable somehing to be beyond Phoenix.
Originally posted by Xplosive
No, because it also doesn't say TOAA isn't the supreme beign, so you are not correct. You are really stuborn, you don't have a clue about TOAA, so we should leave TOAA out if it. You are not correct, believe me. This TOAA is not like Celestial TOAA. It's no where saying he isn't the he surpeme beign (which we could say hence his name), but because it doesn't say, we cannot say he is the supreme being. So you are also not correct. You are extremly wrong.
I will tell you something. When you were in ideas of Phoenix Force being part of TOAA, you were saying TOAA is the supreme, because that also made your beloved Phoenix something like supreme. When KMC members finally somehow show you that you are not correct about ideas, because they are only ideas, you stop using them.
Now you know Pheonix Force is not part of TOAA, due to that, you, we all know something is beyond your beloved Phoenix, like TOAA. And now you are making something to not give TOAA to be supreme (unlike before), only because, that something isn't beyond your beloved Phoenix. Only to convince yourself, Pheonix is the supreme, well, it's not. Before it wasn't the problem, it's part of the Almighty (why before you weren't saying things about TOAA like you are saying now).
You just cannot think somenthing might actully be beyond Phoenix, that is your problem. For you it's unacceptable somehing to be beyond Phoenix.
No. What this is is that you like being right and so you have brought up a random point not just in this thread but others as well which you think you can get me to concede on just as a matter of pride. That much is quite obvious and i find this behaviour incredibly childish XP.
By canon TOAA is NOT the supreme being. Its not stated anywhere that he is so any idea that states otherwise is NOT canon and thats a fact.
Im saying that TOAA by canon isnt the supreme being and i am right because all thats been revealed is that its LTs master and its beyond the IG. Well guess what? So is the Phoenix Force and HOTU. Are they supreme beings as well? Nope, not by canon.
You are trying to say that because nothing has been stated then you can say he is the supreme being and not be wrong. However as nothings been stated its not canon. Therefore talking in terms of canon you are very much as aforementioned incorrect. 😉
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
No. What this is is that you like being right and so you have brought up a random point not just in this thread but others as well which you think you can get me to concede on just as a matter of pride. That much is quite obvious and i find this behaviour incredibly childish XP.By canon TOAA is NOT the supreme being. Its not stated anywhere that he is so any idea that states otherwise is NOT canon and thats a fact.
Im saying that TOAA by canon isnt the supreme being and i am right because all thats been revealed is that its LTs master and its beyond the IG. Well guess what? So is the Phoenix Force and HOTU. Are they supreme beings as well? Nope, not by canon.
[QUOTE=5872237]Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]You are trying to say that because nothing has been stated then you can say he is the supreme being and not be wrong. However as nothings been stated its not canon.
You will be talking about childish, when you always bring up that I am using TOAA as supreme being like a canon.
Originally posted by Xplosive
but because it doesn't say, we cannot say he is the supreme being. Therefore talking in terms of canon you are very much as aforementioned incorrect.
So, does that sound I am using it as a canon 😉. I who say that we can't say TOAA being as supreme (because it doesn't say it anywhere), it doens't sound like it, but you still bring it up, althtough you know I said that before.
You are repeating yourself, you are childish, to prove me wrong, while you know I said before we cannot say TOAA being as supreme, because it isn't stated anywhere.
Originally posted by Xplosive
You will be talking about childish, when you always bring up that I am using TOAA as supreme being like a canon.So, does that sound I am using it as a canon 😉. I who say that we can't say TOAA being as supreme (because it doesn't say it anywhere), it doens't sound like it, but you still bring it up, althtough you know I said that before.
You are repeating yourself, you are childish, to prove me wrong, while you know I said before we cannot say TOAA being as supreme, because it isn't stated anywhere.
Youre gonna have to re-type that in something other than broken English because i dont have a clue what youre talking about.
From what i did manage to decipher, i could be wrong but are you trying to pass off one of my statements as something you've said in an effort to avoid being wrong? 😉
Either way if you want to say that TOAA is Marvels supreme being then thats fine but the moment you mention that idea in threads and try to treat it as canon then you are very very wrong.
So as aforementioned when talking in terms of canon the idea of TOAA being supreme being is conclusively wrong until it is stated somewhere on panel. 😉
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Either way if you want to say that TOAA is Marvels supreme being then thats fine but the moment you mention that idea in threads and try to treat it as canon then you are very very wrong.
You see, you are repeating yourself, like many times I said, I can't say TOAA being supreme, because it's not stated anywhere and not using as canon, you again repeat yourself, ''if you try to use as a canon'', where did I say that. I only said that I can't say TOAA being supreme, because it's not stated anywhere (and to leave TOAA out of debates, because we don't know almost nothing about it to judge about TOAA). And than you come again, saying I treat it as canon, come on, GS.
Originally posted by Xplosive
If TOAA is boss of LT, it's also boss of Phoenix Force. If someone created Phoenix Force, which it was, it was created by TOAA. He is not called THE ONE ABOVE ALL for nothing cause he is ABOVE ALL, competley ABOVE EVERYTHING.
Seeing what Eternity has been talking about, Eternity thinks actully that Phoenix is beyond any abstracts, including LT.
Originally posted by Xplosive
He was manipulated by God Almighty or TOAA
Well going by your past comments in this very thread you were indeed treating it as canon regardless of whether you intended to or not. Therefore just to reiterate in terms of canon it is NOT the supreme being as ive said throughout this thread.
If you wish to believe that idea then thats cool because i cant prove it wrong just like you cant prove it right, however as i said in the beginning the idea can never be used in debates as you were doing as its not canon. Hopefully everythings cool now? 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dont talk to me with that tone and expect me to comply son. 😉You made an assumption, an incorrect and quite foolish assumption and you need to accept that. You made the misinterpretation. Your fault not mine.
Most powerful canon being shown in Marvel imo is the White Crown Phoenix.
disreguard your whole essay n concentrate on the last line
"Most powerful canon being shown in Marvel imo is the White Crown Phoenix."
there it is isnt it, after all the twisting n turning, u finally say that pheonix is indeed the most powerful being in marvel, ur arguing just for pheonix to be the most powerful, n even though u dont say it straight out due to fear of ridicule, that really is wat ur after. tryin to prove that pheonix is the most powerful in marvel.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
disreguard your whole essay n concentrate on the last line"Most powerful canon being shown in Marvel imo is the White Crown Phoenix."
there it is isnt it, after all the twisting n turning, u finally say that pheonix is indeed the most powerful being in marvel, ur arguing just for pheonix to be the most powerful, n even though u dont say it straight out due to fear of ridicule, that really is wat ur after. tryin to prove that pheonix is the most powerful in marvel.
Silly silly Leon. You previously said that i was trying to make out that Phoenix was the supreme being which isnt true. Ive merely discredited the notion that TOAA is the supreme being of Marvel as its not in terms of canon. Now you've just asked me who i think the most powerful being in Marvel is and ive told you the White Crown Phoenix is. I stated canon being for a reason so you have failed to make a point Leon. My answers perfectly understandable and acceptable. 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Silly silly Leon. You previously said that i was trying to make out that Phoenix was the supreme being which isnt true. Ive merely discredited the notion that TOAA is the supreme being of Marvel as its not in terms of canon. Now you've just asked me who i think the most powerful being in Marvel is and ive told you the White Crown Phoenix is. I stated canon being for a reason so you have failed to make a point Leon. My answers perfectly understandable and acceptable. 😄
Which is the comic that stranger tries to rob the phoenix force ? Its not endsong is it !!!!!!!!! I was very disapointed when i picked my ordered version of endsong and it wasn't in there !!!!!!!!!! 😠