Originally posted by darthgoober
Two things. First off, Batman's not lifting a 1,000 lbs, he's supporting it. Second, Batman's having a hard time with 100 lbs less than Cap BENCH PRESSES...http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/multi%20image/CaptainAmerica402-ManandWolf01-04.jpg
Again two things. First off Batman's not actually wearing the straitjacket(note his talking about how the straitjacket and then locks are "kindergarten". Two, he's expending quite a bit of effort to bench 500 lbs less than I just posted Cap doing.
Cap rips the grill off a tractor with ease(it looks like Bat's used his whole body to tear rip the air duck).
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica339-FalloftheMutantsT.jpg
I don't have a direct comparison for this one so I won't bother and instead just insert this one of Cap chunking an anchor with one hand...
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica-Annual12-1993-TheBat.jpg
I've seen Cap do the same thing but can't seem to find the scan... BUT I think this feat equals/exceeds it...
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica231-Aftermath-03.jpg
And none of those feats is as impressive as the ones I already posted anyway. Throwing the grown man a ways with one arm, lifting the giant statue, tossing the tree trunk, pulling the truck with the busted axle, any of those most likely requires more strength than Bats shows in any of those scans.
You really think that's as impressive than outracing bullets? Cap's done the same from more sources coming from more directions...
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/cap%20speed%20bullet%20dodging/Avengersv305-AccusationMostFoul-020.jpg
What's more, MOST street level guys have similar feats to their credit. Hell Daredevil pulls that kind of thing all the time and has speed feats right on par with Bats) and do you know what he says about Cap's speed? That he(Cap) is faster...
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/cap%20speed/Daredevil_233-14.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/cap%20speed/Daredevil_233-15.jpg
One more thing, what issue is that from? Cause Bats is wielding a gun in the second panel and I'm pretty sure that mainstream Bats was supposed to have never done that until Final Crisis.
Do you consider those valid feats to use AGAINST Impulse? Cause if it's PIS for Impulse then it's PIS for Bats...
Again, do you consider that a valid feat to use AGAINST Superman?
Ok what book is that from so I can check for context, because from the look of it the shooter was aiming for Freeze not Batman.
Bat's wears armor and the fact that he had his hand up to protect the unarmored portion of his body isn't really the same as "blocking bullets" the way you're saying. Even if it was, it's still not as impressive as crossing the room to block them.
Like I said the two are close physically, it's just that Cap has the edge.
1. it's harder to hold weight over your head with you arms than to bench press weight.....you know that right?
you've really got to read the dialogue DG.......the guys says himself batman is holding the weight, not "supporting" it.........btw, how does that even make sense? the trick ceiling has fallen with the full force of it's weight......and now batman's holding it up, period.
2.did you read the arc? he was in a straightjacket when the black hand put him down there..........and his freakin muscles were dehydrated. he wasn't even half strength definitely after all that stuff he went through(poisoned, muscles dehydrated,etc).........you'd know if you read the arc.
3.not as impressive......that object is most defintiely heavier and larger than a tractor grill......and he used his bound arms to lift it.......how on earth did he use his whole body?
4.lol, seems like a very small anchor........again, not as impressive....bats is ripping iron bars, and there withering like they're lettuce.lol
5.2 hands, not one........also, was that futuristic looking gun even metal?
also, that statement below #5 suprised me..........you're seriously undermining his feats........which obviously don't compare to throwing a man with one hand.lol
6.cap isn't moving in-between any bullets even close to the way bats was..........grasping.....and this might not be more impressive than "outracing" bullets.......but i bet i know what is(hint, it's a lil down the line)
why mention dd? unless you want to start posting feats that prove he's faster(ie, there are none, because cap's feats are more impressive than his)........and yes, the feats are canon......bats has used guns in his canon appearances before(actually i think this is a recap of his early years where he did)
7.yes, because he's just an inexperienced kid.......but really, let's not start callin pis because those scans are far more impressive than any cap speed feat by far(are they not?)
8. see #7.lol
9.lol, you know batman's head was once exactly in the path between freeze's head and the bullet, right? so acknowledging that.....why would you say such a thing? the text was refering to the fact that batman wasn't fast enough to save freeze too........and btw, im pretty much sure that the last couple of scans puts the speed category firmly outta cap's reach.lol
10.so you're telling me you don't see the several bullets flying in several different.........you know what, i don't even need to argue speed feats anymore.lol
umm.......heavens no......in fact, now that we've done this, i'm convinced bruce has the edge.......i'll understand of course if you don't agree.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
RD. 1 goes to namorsubby.