Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Started by Deadline220 pages
Originally posted by Badabing
No, you posted the scans and used them in the thread despite the rules. The "with exceptions" is above the crossover explanation.

Oh for God sake..anyway im dropping it.

Anyway concerning canon feats Cap probably still wins overall.

Originally posted by Deadline
Oh for God sake..anyway im dropping it.
Warned for trolling and arguing with a mod. Thanks.

batman, because IMO he is more skilled, and if he is physically inferior at all(highly doubtful), it is only by the slightest margin possible.

SMH at the shenanigans that are going on around here for insignificance. Cap wins

Originally posted by namorsubby
batman, because IMO he is more skilled, and if he is physically inferior at all(highly doubtful), it is only by the slightest margin possible.

Unless you go by their actual feats.

Without gadgets, Bruce will last awhile, but Steve will edge him out eventually. Cap wins in general, with Bruce getting an occasional win due to cunning/cleverness.

Originally posted by tideoftime
Without gadgets, Bruce will last awhile, but Steve will edge him out eventually. Cap wins in general, with Bruce getting an occasional win due to cunning/cleverness.

Batman wins by fighting dirty more likely than not.

I would like to see the shield in Bats head the same way his baterang was in spawns head 😄

Originally posted by BattleMage
I would like to see the shield in Bats head the same way his baterang was in spawns head 😄

No shield in this fight.

Captain America IMO

Cap wins about 8/10(all hard fought though). He's likely just as skilled, has the edge physically, and is likely a better tactician.

8/10? seriously?

he's not as skill(ie he doesn't know nearly as many forms)

Originally posted by namorsubby
8/10? seriously?

he's not as skill(ie he doesn't know nearly as many forms)

1) More styles doesn't equal more skill

However, even assuming it did.

2) Batman doesn't know more styles

Originally posted by namorsubby
8/10? seriously?

he's not as skill(ie he doesn't know nearly as many forms)


Yep. With equal skill, equal stats, and equal tactics it would be a toss up(5/10 both ways). But since Cap's got the edge in virtually every physical category and is the better tactician IMO, I think 8/10 seems pretty fair. Don't get me wrong because he'd be a bloody mess at the end of it too, but he'd be the one left standing.

Sure he is(and does).

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yep. With equal skill, equal stats, and equal tactics it would be a toss up(5/10 both ways). But since Cap's got the edge in virtually every physical category and is the better tactician IMO, I think 8/10 seems pretty fair. Don't get me wrong because he'd be a bloody mess too, but he'd be the one left standing.

Sure he is(and does).

there's nothing feat-wise to prove captain america is physically superior......people just say that based off the different interpretations of the phrase "peak human" in marvel and DC. the SSS doesn't make cap any better physically, at least not that anyone can prove.

cap is not a better tactician......that's pretty much what bats is known for.

batman knows 127 forms of MA.......i never heard anything but boxing, kick-boxing, and judo stated for cap.......

Originally posted by namorsubby
there's nothing feat-wise to prove captain america is physically superior......people just say that based off the different interpretations of the phrase "peak human" in marvel and DC. the SSS doesn't make cap any better physically, at least not that anyone can prove.

cap is not a better tactician......that's pretty much what bats is known for.

batman knows 127 forms of MA.......i never heard anything but boxing, kick-boxing, and judo stated for cap.......


Would you like to compare feats between Bats and Cap? I've got the time if you do...

He is IMO. Cap's known for tactics, Bats is known for detective work.

I have. And I'm pretty sure he was adept with every form of fighting known to man before he got frozen in WW2.

i've seen quite enough of both........and i promise, there's no discernable superiority among either.

cap is known for being an american symbol, not much else. batman is known for using tactics to accomplish the unthinkable......"prep" is just the time it takes to gather and more properly set up tactics......and we all know who's the best at that.

how did(actually how could) cap learn every fighting style known to man before he was frozen.......how many years exactly is that......3? 4? show me where it states that he knows every fighting style.

Yep, Cap stated he was adept at all forms during his fight with Baron Zemo, Cap has also stated he was better trained than Cache, who'd downloaded all forms of martial arts.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yep, Cap stated he was adept at all forms during his fight with Baron Zemo, Cap has also stated he was better trained than Cache, who'd downloaded all forms of martial arts.
how? where did he learn all of these and when did he have the time? that makes no sense.......the original statement from his early appearances concerning his MA training stated 3 MA's which he was adept in, any contradiction to that is little more than an inconsistency unless backed by hard evidence.

how many times has namor said his strength can't be matched underwater? but we all know if any supreme being took a visit down there(even his beloved neptune), that statement would be proven false.

how many powerful beings have stated that they can't be defeated or that they are all powerful, only to be proven wrong a few issues later

Originally posted by namorsubby
i've seen quite enough of both........and i promise, there's no discernable superiority among either.

cap is known for being an american symbol, not much else. batman is known for using tactics to accomplish the unthinkable......"prep" is just the time it takes to gather and more properly set up tactics......and we all know who's the best at that.

how did(actually how could) cap learn every fighting style known to man before he was frozen.......how many years exactly is that......3? 4? show me where it states that he knows every fighting style.


So you're not willing to open yourself up to the possibility of being wrong by comparing feats?

No Cap's known AS an American Symbol, that's not what he's known for among the Super Hero community. Cap leads nearly every major assault on team busting villains(well the fights that he's available for anyway) for one reason.... he's the best at it. If he weren't known for the that kind of thing, he wouldn't have been the one to command the final assault in JLA/Avengers. And yes I know the the arc isn't canon for forum purposes I'm using it to show that he IS known for that kind of thing to quite a few people(not just me).

Simple. He's got a "peak human" brain, the government sparred no expense, and it's a comic. Kang's even specifically stated that when it comes to fighting styles Cap learns in days that which takes others years to master.

And it's featured in a scan with him and Baron Zemo that's been floating around the forum for a while now. I'm surprised you haven't already seen it...