Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Im not sure if srankin has ever been in a fight before... But myself i got into a 6v7 brawl outside an applebees over a raiders game where the fans got pissed they lost and we got jumped. Punching takes you so far but i managed to choke a guy and when he almost got the turn on me flipped him to thw street with cars coming around us. Then i mounted him and slammed his head against the concrete. He was dazedand for tghose few seconds i could have done anything i wanted with hjm but it was enough that i could get back into te remainder of te actual fight until the cop showed up with his shotgun...in a different fight I got ny ass handed to me in one fight by a throat punch that made it so i couldnt breathe and hit the ground...

Both know moves becessary to win but i still think bats has the better iverall training for a pure hand to hand

I had no idea why people who havent been in a real fifht before think submissions are useless in a real fight.. All a submission is is stopping at the point before actually breaking a limb or knocking someone unconscious.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Agreed thats's why Boxers do so well in mixed martial arts competitions.

Actually boxers would get demolished in martial arts competitions. It's wrestlers that do good, only after learning other forms of martial arts as well not just wrestling. Did you see what Randy Couture did to that boxer? Once the fight hits the floor (and it will) boxers are virtually defenseless.

actually, most mma incorporate boxing into their style. you are correct, mma fighting is largely a ground game, and strictly boxing skills will be less effective, but I'd be surprised if there were a fighter today that didn't incorporate boxing into their style, because it is so effective at not only striking, but controlling your opponent's moves and the like. further, straight kickboxers and savage practitioners do fairly well in mma. iirc, ufc 1 had a championship bout between one of the gracies and a savate boxer

Going with strictly any style usually results in a poor fighter at the highest levels. There are exceptions, like Jake Shields, but a pure grappler will run into problems against more well rounded people. Not learning to strike will get you knocked out eventually, regardless of your grappling ability. Just ask Damian Maia.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Going with strictly any style usually results in a poor fighter at the highest levels. There are exceptions, like Jake Shields, but a pure grappler will run into problems against more well rounded people. Not learning to strike will get you knocked out eventually, regardless of your grappling ability. Just ask Damian Maia.

Or Brock 🙁

Sorry but Brubaker stated physical wise... Cap is better than Bruce.

Originally posted by Mrblonde
Or Brock 🙁

Although I was quite happy about that.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Going with strictly any style usually results in a poor fighter at the highest levels. There are exceptions, like Jake Shields, but a pure grappler will run into problems against more well rounded people. Not learning to strike will get you knocked out eventually, regardless of your grappling ability. Just ask Damian Maia.

Cap has 30 lbs on Bruce, he would win.

Cap 6-7/10

Originally posted by Mindset
Shields trains mt he just sucks.

MMAtists crosstrain regardless, but you get what I mean. uhuh

Originally posted by StyleTime
Going with strictly any style usually results in a poor fighter at the highest levels. There are exceptions, like Jake Shields, but a pure grappler will run into problems against more well rounded people. Not learning to strike will get you knocked out eventually, regardless of your grappling ability. Just ask Damian Maia.

oh, fair enough

I was more addressing the point of boxers not doing well in mma, by saying that boxing is so effective that, to some extent at least, all mma fighters are boxers.

though, thinking about it, I'm sure you could say the same of wrestling or dozens of other things

Oh, I was aiming that more at The Transporter than you. I agree with what you said.

In hindsight, I should have just quoted him.

Cap wins.

its all bullshit it doesnt matter what you know or the other person knows its all about your overall natural stamina strength and speed, i have seen and been in so many fights already that i realize all that doesnt really matter, i have seen people that train in boxing and wrestling getting destroyed by some street thugs that overall were just stronger and were able to slam the boxer face first to the concrete, and i have seen wrestlers fight on the street and get knocked out or even slammed by someone who is just heavier and bigger that was kinda funny actually , so overall its all bullshit when fighting just go all out and bash yourself against the opponent until he is drinking his own blood no time and place for techniques in a real street fighting

Originally posted by unknowable
This is a fight involving fighting skill.

We all know Batman is no joke, master of I believe 147 different styles of fighting.

America is no joke in his own right, but can his super serum strength(press 500lbs)give him the edge?

Hand to hand in the ultimate fighter octagon ring.

Who takes it?

in batman rip batman bench presses 700LBs 😛

in the JLA/Avengers cross over batman states cap would eventually win but i doubt that. I feel he would outsmart rogers

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Cap 6-7/10

cap vs slade is 5/10
cap vs bats is 7/10 for cap

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You give Cap 10/10 over Slade but only 6-7/10 over Batman? 😖

LOL keep reading that thread and you'll see why I did that. That was just to match namorsubby level logic. You must have missed my other post explaining that. Because he used to say 10/10 in favor of Slade and other silly things that Slade is superior to Cap in every stat across the board.

But my real view is Cap vs Bat is 6-7/10. Vs Slade its 6/10 for either one and its so close it could go the other way.

He was purposefully exaggerating with that 10/10.

edit: too late.