Originally posted by h1a8
Capt isn't the better fighter. Crossover is not canon and characters words are meaningless if it contradicts on panel evidence.Batman has strength feats that are far beyond human potential (super human strength feats). Thus he is not much weaker than CA.
CA isn't faster in combat than Batman. I would say they are equals in this dept. Bat is slightly the better fighter. CA seems like he is because of the shield. But this fight is without his shield.
Again i ask for prove and you dodge. Him having beyond real world humans strength feats does not equate to being near capts eqaul. As usual your logic epicly fails and you dodge direct pleas for you to provide evidence for your claims.
Yes he is. Batman is espablish as physically inferior to DS, who is equal to Capt physically. Capt has far more consistent feats then Batman and is with out a doubt the faster in combat speed. What you say and what actually true tend to be far from the same.
So now capt shield makes him seem faster? are you kidding me with this crap?
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
that cross over is cannon, but thanks for reminding me why I dont bother with you. And it contradicts nothing, DS on pannel has establish him self as physically superior to Batman in direct confrontations.Again i ask for prove and you dodge. Him having beyond real world humans strength feats does not equate to being near capts eqaul. As usual your logic epicly fails and you dodge direct pleas for you to provide evidence for your claims.
Yes he is. Batman is espablish as physically inferior to DS, who is equal to Capt physically. Capt has far more consistent feats then Batman and is with out a doubt the faster in combat speed. What you say and what actually true tend to be far from the same.
So now capt shield makes him seem faster? are you kidding me with this crap?
Cap is a very low superhuman as he has very low superhuman feats, Bats has feats that can compare in strength force. Caps are only slightly better, not a lot better.
Cap is never faster than the Batman in h2h combat. They both have similar feats of h2h fighting speed against top martial artists. Batman has even deflected lasers after the fire. I think it was PIS but I will never say CA is faster than Batman except in running speed (which is not h2h speed).
No! Cap fighting with the shield makes him seem more skilled than what he actually is. Cap doesn't have his shield here.
Crossovers are not canon and neither can they be used here on this forum.
Batman is slightly the better fighter with equal speed.
Cap is better in everything else and thus he wins 7/10
I don't even know why this is a debate because all you have to do is look at their abilities and compare them and clearly Captain America is physically superior to Batman. Captain America has been giving a super soldier serum to be a top notch human who far exceeds any ability of a normal human. While Batman is indeed a great fighter, hero and is in top physical condition, he is still just an ordinary man who trains. Captain America is on another level.
Originally posted by h1a8
Cap is a very low superhuman as he has very low superhuman feats, Bats has feats that can compare in strength force. Caps are only slightly better, not a lot better.
Originally posted by h1a8
Cap is never faster than the Batman in h2h combat.
Originally posted by h1a8
have similar feats of h2h fighting speed against top martial artists. Batman has even deflected lasers after the fire. I think it was PIS but I will never say CA is faster than Batman except in running speed (which is not h2h speed).
Capt is with out a doubt faster in combat speed. It not even debatable. Capt display regularly physical supperiority to character like Batman. DD amoung others have admit inferiority physically. Batman has directly shown to be inferior to DS who is Capt equal physically.
Originally posted by h1a8
! Cap fighting with the shield makes him seem more skilled than what he actually is. Cap doesn't have his shield here.
Originally posted by h1a8
are not canon and neither can they be used here on this forum.
No you are quite mistaken as usual. Some cross overs, and you can ask a mod on that.
That cross over is cannon
Originally posted by h1a8
Batman is slightly the better fighter with equal speed.
Cap is better in everything else and thus he wins 7/10
capt 10/10
Originally posted by Bentley
Could you people drop the DS=Cap act? Not only its annoying but its also pointless.
Originally posted by namorsubby
comparable physical prowess acccording to feats + more come displayed evidence of varying martial arts knowledge and application = Batman FTW
No there not. Batman can't even pove to superiority to characters like DD physically who are well established as inferior to capt.
As usual your talking out your ass.
1: Cap isnt equal to DS. I know youll continue to say it, but im content knowing youll never come close to proving it.
2: batman feats easily put him at the least just slightly below cap physically. Again, no way you can prove with feats that cap is anywhere near as superior as you say. So no doubt youll just keep rambling on.
3: Batman has more comic displayed knowledge of martial arts and more comic displayed application of varying martial arts. And more comic displayed evidence of martial arts training. Therefore, he is more skilled.
Cap 10/10? Lol BH......your such a noob. Neither of these combatants will be taking anywhere near that.
Originally posted by namorsubby
1: Cap isnt equal to DS. I know youll continue to say it, but im content knowing youll never come close to proving it.
Originally posted by namorsubby
2: batman feats easily put him at the least just slightly below cap physically. Again, no way you can prove with feats that cap is anywhere near as superior as you say. So no doubt youll just keep rambling on.
Originally posted by namorsubby
3: Batman has more comic displayed knowledge of martial arts and more comic displayed application of varying martial arts.
And more comic displayed evidence of martial arts training. Therefore, he is more skilled.[/B][/QUOTE]
prove it.
Originally posted by namorsubbyCap 10/10? Lol BH......your such a noob. Neither of these combatants will be taking anywhere near that. [/B][/QUOTE]
BH, Ive already done slade/cap comparisons as well as bruce/cap comparisons. Slades hf is simply in another league. So is his mind. So is his reflexes. Its time for YOU to provide proof for what YOU are claiming BH. Stop looking for others to provide proof against it. YOU said it. YOU back it up.lol
Like i said, ive done bruce/cap comparisons physically, and i know your lying. At the most cap has a slight edge due to some of his more insanely outlandish and inconsistent physical feats. Being a whole step above physical due to that nonsense is out of the question.
Also, cap being superior to bruce because dd said cap is superior to him is the dumbest cross universal abc logic ive ever heard.
More ma knowledge =s more skill. Duh
mu simply says cap knows so many mas. Dcu proves it with many instances of ma training in batmans case. Ill provide scans if neccessary. Of course this is basic batman knowledge(which you are unaware of, naturally)
Batman has beaten slade......Twice. What do you actually know about dc characters that you debate against? And how is the more skilled bruce the inferior fighter. Youre all mixed up BH.
Originally posted by namorsubby👆
1: Cap isnt equal to DS. I know youll continue to say it, but im content knowing youll never come close to proving it.2: batman feats easily put him at the least just slightly below cap physically. Again, no way you can prove with feats that cap is anywhere near as superior as you say. So no doubt youll just keep rambling on.
3: Batman has more comic displayed knowledge of martial arts and more comic displayed application of varying martial arts. And more comic displayed evidence of martial arts training. Therefore, he is more skilled.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I've seen those threads too and IIRC, Slade didn't have any strength feats that were beyond Cap.
Yup. Cap strength, speed, and durability his average feats are better then Slades and his high end feats are increasing better as well. Practically everything of Steve is better sans healing.
Originally posted by Daredevil1not true. As far as speed its not even a contest. Not even close. Durability? They both have armor, but slades still takes it. Strength? Maybe. Slades not really the brawn showing type though. Not many strength feats. But he definitely is stronger than bruce as shown on panel. Cap is not.
Yup. Cap strength, speed, and durability his average feats are better then Slades and his high end feats are increasing better as well. Practically everything of Steve is better sans healing.
Originally posted by namorsubby
not true. As far as speed its not even a contest. Not even close. Durability? They both have armor, but slades still takes it. Strength? Maybe. Slades not really the brawn showing type though. Not many strength feats. But he definitely is stronger than bruce as shown on panel. Cap is not.
Nope. Speed for sure Cap is up there no contest. Not even close.
Durability for majority feats are better for sure Cap takes it. Strength maybe? Nope Steve is better. Cap has the better strength feats for sure in comparison to Slade. Like I said everything sans healing, Steve holds the edge on feats.