Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Started by brainchild81220 pages

I stated that because, I've heard jokes about Cap being a steroid user. People gotta realize why he took the serum as opposed to why Batman took the Venom. Cap's defense is fine without the shield. Most M.artists consider their weapon to be merely an extension of their hand. Cap carries the one shield often and Batman often carries a s**tload of gadgets with him. It doesn't mean they can't knuckle w/out them though.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
As always Batman has the advantage if the fight takes place during night time. And as far as I know Capt stealth isn't that good. Whereas Batman stealthier attack is alway superior.

Much respect to Captain America. But taking away his shield is vital. He rellies on his shield quite too often. Besides he's all juice up.

Batman is 100% beef. No additives unlike the Capt. I'd give it to the Dark Knight just for that.

yes...

Originally posted by unknowable
yes...

no....

[QUOTE=5850623]Originally posted by King KAM
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Its impossible for batman to not be on additives, realistically, he doesnt eat nearly enough, or work out nearly enough to keep his strength up is all idiocy,

Your speculating...

Originally posted by Dizzle
My bad. In case you missed it the first time around:

I'm not saying that Batman can seriously beat Wonderwoman- Far from it. In skills, she's better than he is, and physically he may as well be an ant. The feat is in the fact that he can hurt her, which reinforces my point that Cap's 100lb or so lifting advantage means NOTHING, because Batman hits much harder for his actual strength, and is capable of harming people with very high levels of invlunerability. He knows many, many killing strikes that could potentially end this fight next to instantly.

first of all, LOL!!
then, exactly.

Originally posted by Black Adam
Wonder woman can survive a punch thrown at light speed by zoom.

She can get hit by superman and still be able to stand.

Batman hurting her with any punch or nerve pinch is utter crap.

That's why you should give him respect...

Originally posted by Dizzle
"Supez wins! SPEEDBLITZ!!!!"

"Spiderman wins. Flash can't hit him, he's way too fast..."

"Thor wins. He's a god!!!"

"T3h WoolberEEn winz!!!!112! hes da besdt at wut he duzz!~!!!!~@!~@!"

And now...
"CAP WINS! HE'S PERFECT!!!!"

See a pattern? Please get some evidence to back yourself up so you don't sound like a slobbering fanboy. This goes to all of you, I've yet to see any real evidence in support of Cap. Thanks.

Honestly, I've proven many many times, within this thread, that Batman is every bit Cap's physical equal. I've proven over and over again that Batman is a far superior martial artist. I've proven several times over that Batman has more than is necessary to take out Cap. Yet you come back with... nothing.

Holy crap, I know how DarkCrawler feels on all of those Namor threads...

AHAHAAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOLOLOLOL

Originally posted by unknowable
That's why you should give him respect...

Thats why i call most of his feats crap. Wonderwoman's skin shouldn't even feel anything that bats can hit her with and block out everything that bats throws at her. That includes nerve pinches.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Did any of them hit nerve centers?🙂

The same thing has worked on tons and tons of durable things. Spiderman used almost an identical move on Hulk. The aforementioned Grundy fight. Mantis stunned the freaking Juggernaut and Thor with nerve strikes. Karnak can cause pretty much anything he wants to shatter by touching the right spot. Daredevil has used pressure points on forearms before. Batman knows no less than 5 ways to kill someone with a single strike, several of which I've already posted.

Face it, comic book pressure points are godly. Or maybe real ones are, but aren't used as much because no one has skills on the level of Batman, let alone Mantis. Either way, it's happened many times. The evidence is against you.

That's absolutely correct,
I remember in one of those Hulk issues between 315 - 320, these agents that where with Doc Samson on the chase after the a savage Hulk was ripping everything apart, mind you, one of the agents, a black/chineese woman, took stance as the Hulk rushed her, they screamed for her to move but instead, she did some ill aikido move with a chop to a pressure point on the Hulk's neck, look it up, she drops the Hulk,
now ofcourse he got back up, but it shows that with skill and balance, and using your enemies power and momentum against him, you can make the outcome turn out differently than expected considering the strength disadvantage.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Good logic? 🤨

Wolverine beats Spiderman cuz he's the best at what he does, right? Thor destroys Galactus cuz he's a god, right?
Then how the HELL is Cap being described as a "perfect human" any argument at all? You don't have good logic, you have no logic at all... I have yet to see any evidence in support of Captain America.

I have something like 25 scans on this thread already. Far from just some broken armed guy and a werewolf. I can post more of Batman scaring people shitless, if you really want me to... And the the supersoldier was basically Cap. Except he tried to pull a gun, and Batman kicked the crap out of him.

Oh, and as for disappearing to someone noteworthy...
Is Superman worthy enough? Or is reacting at lightspeed not quite fast enough? Cap IS perfect you know.

OH CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!

If this doesn't convince them...

Originally posted by King KAM
all he did was run and hide, and then pop up somewhere, no disapearing.......

Your the type that even if they show you the video tape, you'l still have faith your wife.

LOL

Originally posted by King KAM
soldiers get 4 hours of sleep in Iraq and thats a sissy

Nonsense, they get between 6 - 7, look it up, those days where madness(WWI-II), Army's got that in check, soldiers don't perform well under sleep depravation, so they rotate individuals with a fair balance, so all can be efficient.
Now Rangers, Special Ops, Delta and those types sleep less, but their specifically trained to handle such stress.

I have stayed awake for 3 and a half days before working 12 hours out of each of those days, and im not peak human(im godly), too be awake, is one thing...all that takes is something to do, and caffeine,

Becareful with this guy's claims,

he tends to exaggerate or flat out make stuff up.

Originally posted by King KAM
please explain why that bs is even in a comic book, its so goddamn stupid.

Well because people like it, and they buy it and it is pretty much why the comic industry is a billion dollar industry today..

Besides all comics are full of BS's

And bats was awake for 4 days str8 not fighting 4 days straight, stop trying to compare apples with oranges here, I have stayed awake for 3 and a half days before working 12 hours out of each of those days, and im not peak human(im godly), too be awake, is one thing...all that takes is something to do, and caffeine, but I want to see Batman fight someone for longer than 4 hours, then we will see how good his Stamina is.

Wow and I am pretty sure you go around dressed up as a big bat fighting super villians and very uncharacteric foes all night long. Too right 🙂.

Originally posted by Black Adam
Thats why i call most of his feats crap. Wonderwoman's skin shouldn't even feel anything that bats can hit her with and block out everything that bats throws at her. That includes nerve pinches.

Like it or not, WW is not human but she's a humanoid and all humanoids are built basically the same, likewise all sharing the same physiological characteristics as the other, to diffferent degrees ofcourse.

So while Batman would of killed someone with that pressure hit he performed on WW, he managed to atleast stun her for a few seconds, which makes sense.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Well because people like it, and they buy it and it is pretty much why the comic industry is a billion dollar industry today..

Besides all comics are full of BS's

Wow and I am pretty sure you go around dressed up as a big bat fighting super villians and very uncharacteric foes all night long. Too right 🙂.

LOL!!!

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Wow and I am pretty sure you go around dressed up as a big bat fighting super villians and very uncharacteric foes all night long. Too right 🙂.
His point still stands. Staying up for x days straight wouldn't be nearly as tiring as fighting for the same period of time. His stamina is great, but not nearly as great as Cap's. His speed is great, but not as great as Cap's. His strength is great, but not as great as Cap's. His reaction time is great, but not as great as Cap's. Cap wins people.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Let me put all the speculation to an end.

Batman is a master of 127 different form of martial arts. Taking all that he has mastered and putting it in to one. Making him a more effective fighter and martial artist than captain America. Because instead of batman taking all the effective martial arts and forming a new style. He could take only the most basic, important thing from each of the 127 arts that he knows and form an art that is more fluid in its movement and firm in combat.

Batman has taken beatings from super-powered beings and he is still hear to tell the tail. Like the beating batman got from superman when he thought that batman was darksied. How about the time when batman was dressed up as brainac. Or how about the beating he got from Mongul. Batman is one tough GUY. Being more powerful that him does not automatically give who ever it is the win.

Batman speed should be able keep up with Captain America. He has been shown to tag Bart (speedster from the teen titans) at low sub speed.

In a UFC fight it is a straight 50/50 mark for both contenders. If batman cheats as well as he fights more wins to him. Who is more likely to cause a disqualification? Who is more likely likely to use some forgotten art?

All those beatings Batman survived had to be PIS. And being the master of 127 fighting styles is utterly impossible unless Batman is like 1,000+ years old. Becoming a Bruce Lee-level master of just one fighting style takes many years to master...learning all 127 of them is utterly impossible unless Batman is immortal.

Originally posted by Uberking Robert
All those beatings Batman survived had to be PIS. And being the master of 127 fighting styles is utterly impossible unless Batman is like 1,000+ years old. Becoming a Bruce Lee-level master of just one fighting style takes many years to master...learning all 127 of them is utterly impossible unless Batman is immortal.

Check this guy out trying to remake Batman,

Rob it is what it is, don't come in here complaining about a characters bio, this is all make believe,

or where you under the impression that Batman was based on a real person?

LOL

Originally posted by brainchild81
I stated that because, I've heard jokes about Cap being a steroid user. People gotta realize why he took the serum as opposed to why Batman took the Venom. Cap's defense is fine without the shield. Most M.artists consider their weapon to be merely an extension of their hand. Cap carries the one shield often and Batman often carries a s**tload of gadgets with him. It doesn't mean they can't knuckle w/out them though.

Batman took Venom?!?!? 😱

Was this in Hush? Which I know I need to read anyway?

Originally posted by Lord Magnus
Batman took Venom?!?!? 😱

Was this in Hush? Which I know I need to read anyway?

i think it happened around the time Bane broke his back.