Originally posted by brainchild81
His point still stands. Staying up for x days straight wouldn't be nearly as tiring as fighting for the same period of time. His stamina is great, but not nearly as great as Cap's. His speed is great, but not as great as Cap's. His strength is great, but not as great as Cap's. His reaction time is great, but not as great as Cap's. Cap wins people.
But he WAS working the whole time... Doing his normal rounds, jumping across buildings, hunting OMACs, the whole shebang. It shows that he won't be slowing down in this fight, as it certainly won't take days, or probably even hours, to finish. Neither are anywhere near durable enough for that. The point is not that it's as good as Cap's but that stamina won't be a deciding factor in this fight.
As I've shown, his speed and reactions are at least as good, if not better, than Cap's. Batman says otherwise in their one fight, but Batman's feats far outweigh Captain America's. Catching Green Arrow's arrow without looking, catching Impulse, etc.
His strength is extremely close, though likely a notch lower, but his technique and striking power are as good or better than Cap's which matters a heck of a lot more in a fight. Batman also knows many one hit kill moves, any of which could take Cap out very quickly. He'd likely block or avoid some of them, but how long can he dodge all of them, if Batman's really going for a KO?
Cap does win... About half. I'm by no means saying that Batman is better than Cap. They're evenly matched to the point where either could win on any given day. It's a complete tossup. 5/10 each.
More OHKO moves...
Knocks out a bouncer witha touch.
Batman is investigating a murder that was committed using a technique that only 4 people in the entire world know. He is one.
The final and best of Shiva's martial artists. Batman defeats him, and kills him using a strike that is designed to mimic a leopard bite. He literally drives each finer through the guy's face. KILLINATED.
Batman modifies one of Shiva's deadliest techniques, the vibrating palm strike, to KO a ninja. Originally, it would kill its target, but Batman changed it slightly to make it non-lethal. Imagine if he uses the real version on someone... ow...
Posted this already... A guy with invulnerability crashes through a wall at Batman. Due to his mystical unhurtableness, Batman's blows have no effect, but they are stated to be the 2 deadliest strikes in all of the fighting arts.
If Cap gets hit with a single one of these techniques, he dies. What the heck is being able to bench 1000 pounds gonna do now? 🙂
Respeck Batman.
Captain Versus Batman
On a 1/10 level of strength Bane is at 6 Cap at 4 and Bat is 2
we all know that Bane is much stronger than Cap , but when Cap threw his shield at Bane , Bane dodged it and laughed but he was so stupid he never realised the shield was coming back at him and got him in the back . So cap is stronger than Batman but batman is a much wiser and ruthless adversary . I'd say 50/50 but the longer the battle the more chances Captain America would have of winning the fight as bat cant recuperate as fast as Cap . On the other hand if the fight is in the dark just like a bat a real bat, Batman would be in his element and would beat Captain America as he would overwhelm him being a more ruthless fighter .
Originally posted by Dizzle
But he WAS working the whole time... Doing his normal rounds, jumping across buildings, hunting OMACs, the whole shebang. It shows that he won't be slowing down in this fight, as it certainly won't take days, or probably even hours, to finish. Neither are anywhere near durable enough for that. The point is not that it's as good as Cap's but that stamina won't be a deciding factor in this fight.As I've shown, his speed and reactions are at least as good, if not better, than Cap's. Batman says otherwise in their one fight, but Batman's feats far outweigh Captain America's. Catching Green Arrow's arrow without looking, catching Impulse, etc.
His strength is extremely close, though likely a notch lower, but his technique and striking power are as good or better than Cap's which matters a heck of a lot more in a fight. Batman also knows many one hit kill moves, any of which could take Cap out very quickly. He'd likely block or avoid some of them, but how long can he dodge all of them, if Batman's really going for a KO?
Cap does win... About half. I'm by no means saying that Batman is better than Cap. They're evenly matched to the point where either could win on any given day. It's a complete tossup. 5/10 each.
More OHKO moves...
Knocks out a bouncer witha touch.
Batman is investigating a murder that was committed using a technique that only 4 people in the entire world know. He is one.
The final and best of Shiva's martial artists. Batman defeats him, and kills him using a strike that is designed to mimic a leopard bite. He literally drives each finer through the guy's face. KILLINATED.
Batman modifies one of Shiva's deadliest techniques, the vibrating palm strike, to KO a ninja. Originally, it would kill its target, but Batman changed it slightly to make it non-lethal. Imagine if he uses the real version on someone... ow...
Posted this already... A guy with invulnerability crashes through a wall at Batman. Due to his mystical unhurtableness, Batman's blows have no effect, but they are stated to be the 2 deadliest strikes in all of the fighting arts.
If Cap gets hit with a single one of these techniques, he dies. What the heck is being able to bench 1000 pounds gonna do now? 🙂
Respeck Batman.
Killer scans Dizz...
Re: Captain Versus Batman
Originally posted by bigbang
On a 1/10 level of strength Bane is at 6 Cap at 4 and Bat is 2
we all know that Bane is much stronger than Cap , but when Cap threw his shield at Bane , Bane dodged it and laughed but he was so stupid he never realised the shield was coming back at him and got him in the back . So cap is stronger than Batman but batman is a much wiser and ruthless adversary . I'd say 50/50 but the longer the battle the more chances Captain America would have of winning the fight as bat cant recuperate as fast as Cap . On the other hand if the fight is in the dark just like a bat a real bat, Batman would be in his element and would beat Captain America as he would overwhelm him being a more ruthless fighter .
ok, good, good,
some of us agree on this..
This is a damn good thread. Great scans!!!
I still say Batman would win. He is more ruthless, more strategic, more skilled than Cap.
The biggest factor in Batman's favor is his obsessiveness. The murder of his parents left a permanent scar that makes him do what he does.
If Batman were to lose the first fight with Cap, I am positive that Batman would never lose again. He would find a way to beat Cap each and every time. That is obsession.
By the way, I reread the Batman vs Spawn comic, and Batman held his own pretty good vs a more powerful opponent.
Cap goes down!!!
Originally posted by xkalybr
This is a damn good thread. Great scans!!!I still say Batman would win. He is more ruthless, more strategic, more skilled than Cap.
The biggest factor in Batman's favor is his obsessiveness. The murder of his parents left a permanent scar that makes him do what he does.
If Batman were to lose the first fight with Cap, I am positive that Batman would never lose again. He would find a way to beat Cap each and every time. That is obsession.
By the way, I reread the Batman vs Spawn comic, and Batman held his own pretty good vs a more powerful opponent.
Cap goes down!!!
yea man I been loving it...
Originally posted by King KAM
Dude this thread is getting sad, they are countering all my arguments with jokes, and single line responses, they have no counter-argumentsm, only scans and more edited well chosen semi-evidence
That's not true K. if you go back there's been plenty of counters versus your opinion of who the winner would be here.
You said Cap 10/10,
Others thought 5/10 each
and some thought Batman's superior fighting skill, intelligence and potential ruthlessness would give hime the edge.
But if you think you can still make a case, the thread is still here.
Originally posted by unknowableThere has been no evidence showing batman is more skilfull, nor that he is intelligent in a fight, he hasd no prep, and for ruthlessness.....well that doesnt matter if you cant win the fight, i can be more ruthless then mike tyson, doesnt mean ill beat him.
That's not true K. if you go back there's been plenty of counters versus your opinion of who the winner would be here.You said Cap 10/10,
Others thought 5/10 each
and some thought Batman's superior fighting skill, intelligence and potential ruthlessness would give hime the edge.
But if you think you can still make a case, the thread is still here.
Originally posted by King KAM
Dude this thread is getting sad, they are countering all my arguments with jokes, and single line responses, they have no counter-argumentsm, only scans and more edited well chosen semi-evidence
Semi evidence? 🤨 I have at least 20 scans on here already, to your... 1. All you have is Cap beating a no name army fighter.
Batman beats Solomon Grundy... Again.
This is Priest. He spends his days traveling and fighting, searching for an opponent worthy of his skills. He beat everyone who he came across, until... (oh, this also shows batman catching 3 crossbow bolts fired from close range)
Grundy was winning until a guy that was mind controlling him let him go, in the first one I posted. And The justification WAS that Batman was actually hitting pressure points, as opposed to just whacking him in the face. But yeah, Grundy jobs a lot, Batman probably shouldn't be strong enough to actually damage his nerves... 😂 Still not even as close to as bad as Cap hurting Thor though. He's freaking Thor, and they didn't even try to justify it with pressure points. And Wolv vs. Lobo was fan voted...
