Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Started by srankmissingnin220 pages
Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
He's blatantly Batman's physical superior and a legit superhuman, something neither of them are.

How is Captain America not blatantly superhuman? 😕

How many people do you know that can grab a speeding car with one hand and a lamp post with the other and stop the car dead it its tracks?

Christ you are pathetic.

Originally posted by Philosophía
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvsdstroke-ds4.gif

He later attributes this victory to his physical stats, and wouldn't want to face him in equal bodies:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvsdstroke-ds7.jpg

Sure, that was not yet 'batgod', but even when they met again, Slade physically dominated him:

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Good%20Showings/Martial%20Artists-Street%20Level%20Fighters/?action=view&current=detective710-batvstroke1a.jpg
http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Good%20Showings/Martial%20Artists-Street%20Level%20Fighters/?action=view&current=detective710-batvstroke1b.jpg
http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Good%20Showings/Martial%20Artists-Street%20Level%20Fighters/?action=view&current=detective710-batvstroke1c.jpg
http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Good%20Showings/Martial%20Artists-Street%20Level%20Fighters/?action=view&current=detective710-batvstroke1d.jpg

Moments later, Batman tries again, and fails again:

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Good%20Showings/Martial%20Artists-Street%20Level%20Fighters/?action=view&current=detective710-batvstroke2a.jpg
http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Good%20Showings/Martial%20Artists-Street%20Level%20Fighters/?action=view&current=detective710-batvstroke2b.jpg
http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Good%20Showings/Martial%20Artists-Street%20Level%20Fighters/?action=view&current=detective710-batvstroke2c.jpg

He's basically lucky Deathstroke's attention is not on him, otherwise he'd have gotten easily beaten.

This is consistent with later on, when Batman needs Nightwing and Robin to take him on, in Infinite Crisis.

His superhuman stats make up for his inferior skill.

Yeah, ok, so the same argument we've seen before.

I'm not up for playing the skeptic for this right now, and I see the logic behind it.

So, you know, cool. Fair enough. I'm not really sure if I buy in right now, but I'll do some thinking... and go back to watching Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

EDIT: Thanks, btw.

Anyone remember secret avengers as Steve pulled down a chopper with a grappling hook?

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Anyone remember secret avengers as Steve pulled down a chopper with a grappling hook?

But Batman pulled a Manbat, so he remains Cap's equal! Right Sophia? batdur

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
How is Captain America not blatantly superhuman? 😕

How many people do you know that can grab a speeding car with one hand and a lamp post with the other and stop the car dead it its tracks?

Christ you are pathetic.

Caps superhuman when it comes to real life, but so is batman. No one is debating about Cap's physical superiority to Batman. This is obvious. It's just that Cap is not that much physically superior over Batman since both can hurt each other with their attacks very much, especially Bat's with his pressure points. Bat's still have the slight skill advantage.

Cap wins a slight majority.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Anyone remember secret avengers as Steve pulled down a chopper with a grappling hook?
He was in a car bracing. Thus the car helped.

Physically, Batman is as strong, tough, fast, agile, etc as HE can be, Cap is as strong, tough, fast, agile, etc as a Human Being can possibly be. Bruce is at HIS own physical peak, Cap is at Humanitys physical peak. Yes, Cap is stronger, tougher, faster, more agile, and overall physically superior to Batman, this honestly shouldnt be in question.

Originally posted by Existere
Which part?

That Cap isn't superior to Batman.

Atleast batman wasn't killed by a regular bullet.

Originally posted by DTM
Physically, Batman is as strong, tough, fast, agile, etc as HE can be, Cap is as strong, tough, fast, agile, etc as a Human Being can possibly be. Bruce is at HIS own physical peak, Cap is at Humanitys physical peak. Yes, Cap is stronger, tougher, faster, more agile, and overall physically superior to Batman, this honestly shouldnt be in question.

Bad logic.

Originally posted by h1a8
He was in a car bracing. Thus the car helped.

😆

Neither Captain America, or the grappling hook are tethered to the car. He was standing unrestrained in the back seat of a convertible, if anything the car was detrimental to success of the feat.

Go stand on the roof of your car while someone drives it for you and then throw a grappling hook at something. When you wake up out of your coma in a couple of years see if you can report back the success of your mission.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i see what you're saying, the four shadowy parts are the undersides of the weights.
Did you happen to see the old herochat thread where the entire board was mocking Phil's obsessive respect Batman at all costs posts. It was priceless. Phil just couldn't understand and kept hammering away at his keyboard. He eventually went away in defeat. Like always.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
😆

Neither Captain America, or the grappling hook are tethered to the car. He was standing unrestrained in the back seat of a convertible, if anything the car was detrimental to success of the feat.

Go stand on the roof of your car while someone drives it for you and then throw a grappling hook at something. When you wake up out of your coma in a couple of years see if you can report back the success of your mission.

LOL good point srank. Plus Steve did it with one "freaking" arm.....LOL

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bad logic.

Captain America on panel was called "the next step in human evolution".

Is Bruce Wayne this as well?

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Captain America on panel was called "the next step in human evolution".

Is Bruce Wayne this as well?


Titles are meaningless on forums. Mr. Immortal is the last step of human evolution, he must be strongest, right?

I'd suggest a battlezone where both sides can post feats of various aspects of physicality between the two.

And honestly, outside of just picking a "winner", it would be great for both characters as they both could really do with a revamped respect thread with more organized scans.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Titles are meaningless on forums. Mr. Immortal is the last step of human evolution, he must be strongest, right?

Are you saying he isn't, you son of a b1tch!?! 😠

isnt Mr. Immortal suppose to evolve into an abstract being in the distant future?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd suggest a battlezone where both sides can post feats of various aspects of physicality between the two.

And honestly, outside of just picking a "winner", it would be great for both characters as they both could really do with a revamped respect thread with more organized scans.

Batman has http://batmanfeats.blogspot.ca/ but Cap could use a comprehensive overview of his feats.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Batman has http://batmanfeats.blogspot.ca/ but Cap could use a comprehensive overview of his feats.

That's a cool link. 👆