Cap is physically superior to Batman but not by a whole lot since Batman can indeed hit and hurt Cap with his strikes. Especially if Bats decides to use pressure points.
Cap wins this fight so what's the debate about? By how much Cap wins?
IMO, the fight where Cap has his shield and Bats has his gadgets goes to Batman all day long. But in this fight it goes to Cap. Now close the thread. Debate is settled.
Originally posted by h1a8
Cap is physically superior to Batman but not by a whole lot since Batman can indeed hit and hurt Cap with his strikes. Especially if Bats decides to use pressure points.Cap wins this fight so what's the debate about? By how much Cap wins?
IMO, the fight where Cap has his shield and Bats has his gadgets goes to Batman all day long. But in this fight it goes to Cap. Now close the thread. Debate is settled.
A fly weight can still hit and hurt a heavy weight with their strikes, but there is still a significant physical disparity between the two. Captain America is probably 2-4 times stronger than Batman.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just silly.
Feel free to refute it.
Here are all of Batman's strength feats: http://batmanfeats.blogspot.ca/p/powerstrength.html find one that you think is within 2-4 times the range of Captain America pulling a helicopter out of the air, or stopping a speeding a two ton car by grabbing the bumper with one hand and a lamp post with the other.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Feel free to refute it.Here are all of Batman's strength feats: http://batmanfeats.blogspot.ca/p/powerstrength.html find one that you think is within 2-4 times the range of Captain America pulling a helicopter out of the air, or stopping a speeding a two ton car by grabbing the bumper with one hand and a lamp post with the other.
Originally posted by abhilegend
If we go only by feats, superman would be thousands or in some cases infinitely stronger than others. Cap seems stronger than batman taking all their feats in account, but taking one or two outlier feats out of hundreds of other feats and declaring them the norm is just silly.
Along with those feats, you also have narrative statements of Captain America having the strength of ten men, the strength of twenty men, the strength of half a platoon of men, and four times the strength and speed of Bucky who is peak human himself. Captain America is superhuman, and even when he lost is enhanced Super Soldier abilities he was still able to do 400lbs bicep curls. It's not a few isolated feats that put him above Batman... it's the majority of them.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Along with those feats, you also have narrative statements of Captain America having the strength of ten men, the strength of twenty men, the strength of half a platoon of men, and four times the strength and speed of Bucky who is peak human himself. Captain America is superhuman, and even when he lost is enhanced Super Soldier abilities he was still able to do 400lbs bicep curls. It's not a few isolated feats that put him above Batman... it's the majority of them.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Narrative statements? I can show you the statements that no force in universe can stop a punch from superman along with him lifting actual infinite weight, numerous times being the strongest and most powerful being on earth which has a 5-d imp on it. What little cap I've read, he never seemed even twice as strong as batman and if they would ever fight like JLA/Avengers, it would be a long, drawn out fight. A four time stronger than batman cap would oneshot any general street leveler which isn't the case.
I can show you narrative statements that Captain America moves faster than light and punches harder than an atom bomb, but that doesn't invalidate narrative statements that conform with the documented abilities of the character and the parameters of their attributes. If Captain America and Batman ever fought, it would be an ever more one sided beat down than Deathstroke lays out, because on top of his physical superiority, Cap is also more skilled than Batman.
If Cap lands flush with a haymaker, he would probably one shot most streets.
Originally posted by Juntai
lolol.
Captain America is established from several sources as being more skilled than Shang-Chi and Iron Fist.
Batman is established from several sources as being less skilled than Shiva, and Dragon.
Captain America is sitting at the top of marvels street level MA hierarchy, Batman is lucky to crack the top five in DC... even before the influx of Wildstorm characters.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I can show you narrative statements that Captain America moves faster than light and punches harder than an atom bomb, but that doesn't invalidate narrative statements that conform with the documented abilities of the character and the parameters of their attributes. If Captain America and Batman ever fought, it would be an ever more one sided beat down than Deathstroke lays out, because on top of his physical superiority, Cap is also more skilled than Batman.If Cap lands flush with a haymaker, he would probably one shot most streets.
You are saying all these street levelers who cap has fought are alive because cap never lands a flush haymaker.