Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm legitimately curious if any of the people who think Captain America and Batman are physically equal, watched the Captain America or The Avengers movies and thought "WTF! Why is Captain America blatant superhuman?" Since apparently none of you have noticed that's how he is in the comics as well...
No, they watched it and said "That's nothing movie Batman couldn't do".
Originally posted by srankmissingnin Yeah he was probably as Superman level Security Guard? 😱 It was random fodder with telepathic abilities and it was enough to trump 3boot Karate Kid.
hes a 31st century guard designed for that type of combat. he could have beaten someone like dd or batman. we dont know.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm legitimately curious if any of the people who think Captain America and Batman are physically equal, watched the Captain America or The Avengers movies and thought "WTF! Why is Captain America blatant superhuman?" Since apparently none of you have noticed that's how he is in the comics as well...
lol I remember watching the movie with a hardcore Batman fanboy - also a Nolanite - who's a friend of mine and just giving him a troll face when he begrudingly asked "So, in a fight without gadgets and shit, Batman would get railed by Captain America, huh? 🙁 "
Originally posted by JakeTheBankIt is hard for Batman fans to accept the obvious truth.
lol I remember watching the movie with a hardcore Batman fanboy - also a Nolanite - who's a friend of mine and just giving him a troll face when he begrudingly asked "So, in a fight without gadgets and shit, Batman would get railed by Captain America, huh? 🙁 "
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm legitimately curious if any of the people who think Captain America and Batman are physically equal, watched the Captain America or The Avengers movies and thought "WTF! Why is Captain America blatant superhuman?" Since apparently none of you have noticed that's how he is in the comics as well...
Because comic Batman kicking over a tree at age 14 isn't blatantly super human?
Movie Batman is not comic Batman.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
This is why people are always making fun of you h1a8, you are [b]staggeringly stupid.How would the car have helped Captain America pull the helicopter. Turn on your brain and think about that for a second. Steve was standing up in restrained in the back set, he wasn't buckled in and his grapple was not tethered to anything. How is the car helping him? If anything being in a car makes the feat more difficult.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batduct.jpg
You think that is a seven ton feat? Maybe you'd like to educate us as to why it would take the equivalent of seven tons to rip a few hundred pounds of hollow metal piping up? [/B]
Being in the car made the feat easier since the car was going in the direction that Cap is pulling. Thus it is help pulling. Cap was using the car to pull against WHILE the car was moving forward. Look at Cap's feet, they're on the seat in such a way to allow the car to help him pull. Common sense says that if the helicopter had more force than the car was exerting then the helicopter would have stopped and pulled the car. But it didn't.
Such pipes have a tensile strength of 400MPa. This is 400 million netwons per square meter. Assuming the thickness was about 1cm, then from a thin square rod we would get a cross sectional area of (1cm)^2 or (1/10000)m^2 . Multipying this area by the tensile strength and converting to tons yields 4.5 tons.
That means a rod with twice the area would yield about 9 tons. The pipe was circular and thus had more than twice the cross sectional area as 1 rod.
But math and physics wasn't needed. It is clear that a 7-8 ton truck could hang from such a pipe without breaking.
Originally posted by cdtm
So for those that think Batman is hopelessly outclassed:Who, in your opinion, can beat Captain America? What's the bare minimum character that can do so consistently, to at least a 50/50 split?
Anyone on the street level?
only one i can think off that can do a split at best vs cap is black panther , all theother streets are going down very hard
Originally posted by h1a8
Being in the car made the feat easier since the car was going in the direction that Cap is pulling. Thus it is help pulling. Cap was using the car to pull against WHILE the car was moving forward. Look at Cap's feet, they're on the seat in such a way to allow the car to help him pull. Common sense says that if the helicopter had more force than the car was exerting then the helicopter would have stopped and pulled the car. But it didn't.Such pipes have a tensile strength of 400MPa. This is 400 million netwons per square meter. Assuming the thickness was about 1cm, then from a thin square rod we would get a cross sectional area of (1cm)^2 or (1/10000)m^2 . Multipying this area by the tensile strength and converting to tons yields 4.5 tons.
That means a rod with twice the area would yield about 9 tons. The pipe was circular and thus had more than twice the cross sectional area as 1 rod.But math and physics wasn't needed. It is clear that a 7-8 ton truck could hang from such a pipe without breaking.
This is one of the most asinine things I have ever read.
Captain America and the car are two separate entities. Captain America is not attached to the car, which means if he isn't physically capable of pulling down the helicopter of his own volition... then the mere act of trying and failing against the resistance of the helicopter pulls him clean out of the back seat of that car. Bracing his foot against the back seat doesn't weld him to the car, it merely affords him a better footing and more uses of the stronger muscles of the legs and lower back.
That's a lot of unsubstantiated numbers there. Thanks I guess? What I tell you is that one summer I had a job laying down asphalt on flat top roofs with pipes like that, and I've moved old pipes like that around. Two people can do it, they don't weigh that much. You certainly can't hang a f@cking car off it, let a lone a 7-8 ton truck. Christ.
