Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Started by unknowable220 pages

Originally posted by Dizzle
Grundy was winning until a guy that was mind controlling him let him go, in the first one I posted. And The justification WAS that Batman was actually hitting pressure points, as opposed to just whacking him in the face. But yeah, Grundy jobs a lot, Batman probably shouldn't be strong enough to actually damage his nerves... 😂 Still not even as close to as bad as Cap hurting Thor though. He's freaking Thor, and they didn't even try to justify it with pressure points. And Wolv vs. Lobo was fan voted...

But hey, if we want PIS war...

well put...

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
OK LETS BE HONEST FAN BOYS THIS WOULD BE A GREAT FIGHT UNTIL BATMAN STARTS GETTING FATIGUED WE ALL KNOW IT WILL BE WAY SOONER THAN CAP ONCE HES TIRED ANY BLOW FROM CAP CAN BE LIFE THREATING....SORRY FAN BOYS....BUT HEY WITH GAGETS AND LOTS OF PREP BATMAN WINS !!!! I THINK????????

First read the title thread and lead post,
then write all gibberish you wish.

Originally posted by King KAM
I said he is the Champ becuase whenever he fights h2h, he steps up to the plate, you CANT count cap out untill they throw hands, because when they do....i think cap will show us that he knows some top secret government special forces moves that They dont know, just like they know some mystic secret asian moves that he doesnt.

What, and Batman doesn't? The better DC MA's don't walk ove him by any means, and he gives many a superhuman a very good fight. Quite frankly, Cap's NEVER fought Shiva or Richard Dragon, or anyone nearly as good as them, so you have no idea how he'd do. If you were talking about him fighting Mantis and Gamora...

Gamora is Thanos's prodigy. She fought Thanos, and didn't take a hit. Mantis tripped the Runner, took down Thor, stunned the Juggernaut, and fought alongside Silver Surfer, all with martial arts skill. Karnak shatters diamonds for fun; he's basically the Karate Kid of Marvel. These are the godly elites of comic book MA's. They bring it to an impossible level. Cap's far from the best. Good, yes, but saying he's the "best ever" is both untrue and highly biased.

Originally posted by unknowable
First read the title thread and lead post,
then write all gibberish you wish.
you know something....when new guys write in CAPS they must realize that thats not helping anyone take what they have to say into conscideration.

CAP WINS...I LOVE TO WRITE IN CAPS IT MAKES ME FEEL IMPORTANT...NO PUN INTENDED...

Originally posted by jgiant
CAP WINS...I LOVE TO WRITE IN CAPS IT MAKES ME FEEL IMPORTANT...NO PUN INTENDED...
youre a silly silly little man.....

Originally posted by King KAM
Yes, but Cap still should have more experience, he has been in combat ever since he has been re-animated, cap doesnt take ANY days off. and its IMPOSSIBLE to move with a broken back, thats just human physiology.

And ive seen Cap Drop the Hulk in 1 kick.

You never cease to make me laugh,
"it's impossible to move with a broken back" you said.

But what is possible, is re-animating someone, LOL
making tireless soldiers with super serum, LOL
how about vibranium shields, LOL
and the best one, Cap dropping Hulk with a kick. HAHAAHAHAHA!!!!

this is just human physibullchit...

Originally posted by Azeld
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comicbatmanvstheincrediblehulk3.jpg

Batkick

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Str feats

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Suit and Durability

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Pressure points and martial arts

thumbs up on the scans...

Originally posted by unknowable
You never cease to make me laugh,
"it's impossible to move with a broken back" you said.

But what is possible, is re-animating someone, LOL
making tireless soldiers with super serum, LOL
how about vibranium shields, LOL
and the best one, Cap dropping Hulk with a kick. HAHAAHAHAHA!!!!

this is just human physibullchit...


No thats not bullshit, Marvel is explaining why cap can do all these things, DC is just doing them...its 2 completley different arguments...and as far as im concerned this debate is between me and dizzle, because you have no incite on anything your simply being a "yes-man"

Originally posted by xkalybr
Topic one: Batman not sleeping for days.

I read a comic, it might have been in the Knightfall series, where Batman is meditating and clearly says that meditating for 3 hours, the way Batman does, is equivalent to sleeping 8 hours.

We all know that Batman does meditate. Most hardcore martial artists all do.

Topic two: Batman healing himself.

In the sequel to "10 Nights of the Beast" where Batman is fighting the KGB Beast's successor, Batman jumps out of a moving train and severely injures himself.

At the hospital, the doctors say that it looks as if Batman has shut his body down completely to speed up the healing. He had reached a very deep meditative state to achieve this.

Back to the topic of Bats vs Cap.

Batman has way to many skills, arsenal, strategy, mental capabilities to lose to Cap. yes, it would be a great fight, but Batman just knows too much, and is not afraid to use them skills.

Let's face it, what Cap has achieved in taking the super soldier serum, Batman has achieved through extensive, obsessive, compulsive hard work.

If anyone has any scans they can share of Batman meditating for sleep and his injuries, please post them. Thanks.

making sense...

The reason I give Batman 6/10 over Cap is what Cap has gotten by a serum, Batman has by years or obsessive hard work. Ive seen more proof of him being trained by, and fighting high level martial artists then I have Cap.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Does Cap have an anti pressure point aura? Do his "skillz" automatically protect him from getting hit in those places? I have scans of Batman USING the techniques. How can you even say it would be CIS for him to do so, when I have scans of him using several of them? 🤨 It's not going to be a guaranteed hit, but if Batman specifically targets those places, as I've shown he can, how long can Cap dodge? Hell, even nixing the pressure points, Batman strikes hard enough to knock down trees. And Aquaman. Hell, name me one feat that Cap has that you think Batman COULDN'T do. He doesn't need to take Cap out in one shot, he'll do it by punching him in the face over and over again.

And as to not killing...

He doesn't enjoy it by any means, but he's no Superman. In a fight to the death... He'll bring the freaking death.

Still going over training and workouts? Both train a ton. Batman HAS been training longer, because Cap was frozen for so long. Taking those years out of his life, the two are roughly the same age, Batman started a lot earlier. His training was much more extensive. Cap trains to stay in shape, and to keep the form that he has in top condition. But he doesn't get better. Batman was initially trained to be better, and keeps it up just as well as Cap does. The fact that one puts in an extra hour at the gym won't make much of a difference, as they're both as close to perfect as they're going to get. They're both in perfect shape, Bamtan's fighting will ALWAYS be better, until Cap gets his butt to Asia and finds a hermit or two to teach him the real way to fight.

I have "doubts" therefore Cap wins? So every thread involving Wolverine should have Wolverine win, because there's at least 5 or 6 guys who will post "WULBEREEEN 10/10!!!!!111"? No doubt there, are they right? No, I've posted scan after scan that proves that Batman is slightly superior to Cap in some areas, and at the very least competetive in all. Nothing I've shown really blows Cap's capabilities out of the water, but I HAVE shown that whatever Cap can do, Batman can do just as well. They are too evenly matched for either to take 10/10, though the drooling fanboys will tell you otherwise. 😉

Inspiring...
way ta go Dizz...

Originally posted by Dizzle
What the hell? That would be fuggin awesome, but I'm pretty sure you'd need like... Flash+Hulk for something like that. Probably not even physically possible for Flulk, probably not even phsically possible period. Batman's definitely not pulling that off. And don't bring up prep time, this is a h2h fight for a reason...

LOL, Flulk, ahahahaha!!!

Originally posted by King KAM
youre a silly silly little man.....
You wish...

Originally posted by King KAM
Which is B.S. in real life very few eastern asian arts have proven to be so effective. Captain America dont need no kung fu to be Batmans equal, he just needs to be unmatchable in h2h which he is.

Actually no true Kung Fu Master has ever been seen fighting out in public for money, I seen Shaolin Monks do there thing in this one time only filmimg they did of real monks in the mountains training and sparring. Let me tell you I never saw anything like it, these monks defied human limitation.

eg. One monk pulled a wheel weighing hundreds of lbs with a thin rope tied to his testicles, this same monk took repeated kicks to his testicles in underwear and didn't even flinch.
Another broke solid brownstones bricks with his fingers,
and another cracked the shaft of a spear, while the spear was being jammed into the sofft area of his throat.
and the acrobatics, sheesh, straight out a jackie chang movie but unrehearsed.

Originally posted by unknowable
Actually no true Kung Fu Master has ever been seen fighting out in public for money, I seen Shaolin Monks do there thing in this one time only filmimg they did of real monks in the mountains training and sparring. Let me tell you I never saw anything like it, these monks defied human limitation.

eg. One monk pulled a wheel weighing hundreds of lbs with a thin rope tied to his testicles, this same monk took repeated kicks to his testicles in underwear and didn't even flinch.
Another broke solid brownstones bricks with his fingers,
and another cracked the shaft of a spear, while the spear was being jammed into the sofft area of his throat.
and the acrobatics, sheesh, straight out a jackie chang movie but unrehearsed.

What you just said is....

Monks have extremley strong and unsensitive testicles

They have the worlds most powerful fingers or make really shitty bricks, which i think is a mixture of both

And that they have strong throats, and really crappy throats.

But that doesnt mean that any of them are better fighters than A heavy weight boxing champ, or The MMA champs. you have to realize that the guys who crush cocnutes with their bare hands NEVER compete,because they probably cant take being hit back, and would rather beat up inanimate objects, BECAUSE they dont hit back.

Originally posted by King KAM
you know something....when new guys write in CAPS they must realize that thats not helping anyone take what they have to say into conscideration.

Well I guess where on the same page, cause Everything you write I read with skepticism,(not because of how you type, because that's senseless to judge you because of how you type, damn you are an internet geek!!!

and it seems the 'N'ew guy has some old tricks up his sleeve,
cause this thread has over 2500 views and over 315 replies,
and yes it's true, atleast 30 of them are you writing chit or flat out lying,
like Crack being invented in oakland.

Let me cap this a again, So don't play yourself or your cards will get pulled,
that post wasn't even to you, so you put your foot in your mouth as they say.

Originally posted by King KAM
No thats not bullshit, Marvel is explaining why cap can do all these things, DC is just doing them...its 2 completley different arguments...and as far as im concerned this debate is between me and dizzle, because you have no incite on anything your simply being a "yes-man"

So keep it between you and Dizz. and don't quote my post and attempt to make fun of.

Originally posted by King KAM
What you just said is....

Monks have extremley strong and unsensitive testicles

They have the worlds most powerful fingers or make really shitty bricks, which i think is a mixture of both

And that they have strong throats, and really crappy throats.

But that doesnt mean that any of them are better fighters than A heavy weight boxing champ, or The MMA champs. you have to realize that the guys who crush cocnutes with their bare hands NEVER compete,because they probably cant take being hit back, and would rather beat up inanimate objects, BECAUSE they dont hit back.

Meh, I'd give a Shaolin Monk extremely good odds against a boxer. I think the point of taking shots to the nuts and throat was to prove that they CAN take a hit... They do NOTHING but train. They don't do it for violence though- it'd even be against their entire way of life to show it all off. The entire mentality behind it is really a very nonviolent kind of thing, I do believe. They beat up trees for the meditative value, not to practice beating up other people.

Even so, they show what real life obsession does to a person. By their sheer hardcoreness, Batman and Cap should probably be able to do similar things, possibly even better. Honestly, have you ever really considered the acrobatics and such that they pull casually?

Originally posted by unknowable
Well I guess where on the same page, cause Everything you write I read with skepticism,(not because of how you type, because that's senseless to judge you because of how you type, damn you are an internet geek!!!

and it seems the 'N'ew guy has some old tricks up his sleeve,
cause this thread has over 2500 views and over 315 replies,
and yes it's true, atleast 30 of them are you writing chit or flat out lying,
like Crack being invented in oakland.

Let me cap this a again, So don't play yourself or your cards will get pulled,
that post wasn't even to you, so you put your foot in your mouth as they say.

you said a domican invented crack, yet his name was yayo, yet yayo is Cocaine not crack, crack was invented in the 80s, but cocaine was invented YEARS AGO, so why would someone named yayo be the inventor of crack, when they were saying rush rush to the yayo in "scarface" and this isnt even about crack at all. get your slang correct

Im an internet geek yet you post just as much as i do, you are a effin hypocrit, if ive ever seen one, if im a geek your a geek, so face the facts, and i type however the hell i want this isnt english class i dont neeed to use no correct grammar,.

Im writing shit, i havent posted 1 post on here that is BS only facts when you show me one time i lied about captain america than you can call me a liar but untill then you are just a "yes man" who tries to protect his fellow idiot.