Originally posted by pym-ftwProve that Cap is faster than someone who can bat bullets away and can dodge tens of thousands of bullets at one time without the aid of a shield.
Depite them both being faster than Bruce? I think your just getting delusional
You think Batman is too slow to block or parry one of Cap's attacks? If so then that's asinine.
Originally posted by h1a8
Prove that Cap is faster than someone who can bat bullets away and can dodge tens of thousands of bullets at one time without the aid of a shield.You think Batman is too slow to block or parry one of Cap's attacks? If so then that's asinine.
Cap is SUPERHUMAN this is a FACT, he has reacted and dodged sniper fire after it was fired..
btw before you say that batman is superhuman, cap is comic level super human...
Originally posted by Mr Master
All 3 interpretations are similar imo.
Except in the first one Batman won.
And Skill isn't = h2h fighting in comics. Skill in comics is a Superpower more or less, look at Karate Kid.
Batman knowing more styles and pressure points and on top of that being caps intelectual superior, makes the stronger and faster part even. Batman by all means is beyond anything a human can hope to achieve in RL, so no, he isn't a simple human.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Except in the first one Batman won.And Skill isn't = h2h fighting in comics. Skill in comics is a Superpower more or less, look at Karate Kid.
Batman knowing more styles and pressure points and on top of that being caps intelectual superior, makes the stronger and faster part even. Batman by all means is beyond anything a human can hope to achieve in RL, so no, he isn't a simple human.
Only, Batman doesn't know more styles and even if he did, more styles doesn't = more skilled.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Only, Batman doesn't know more styles and even if he did, more styles doesn't = more skilled.
More styles = more knowledge what the other is capable of doing = more knowledge how to counter it = more knowledge what the other doesn't know = more possible ways to win = (with a person who is much smarter then steve) a better tactic.
Cap is good, Batman is better, the only thing that gives him the split is better strength and speed.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
More styles = more knowledge what the other is capable of doing = more knowledge how to counter it = more knowledge what the other doesn't know = more possible ways to win = (with a person who is much smarter then steve) a better tactic.Cap is good, Batman is better, the only thing that gives him the split is better strength and speed.
None of that counters the fact that Batman doesn't know more styles and even if he did, more styles doesn't = more skilled.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
More styles = more knowledge what the other is capable of doing = more knowledge how to counter it = more knowledge what the other doesn't know = more possible ways to win = (with a person who is much smarter then steve) a better tactic.Cap is good, Batman is better, the only thing that gives him the split is better strength and speed.
well all those things AND... Stamina, Durability and Reflexes (which are key ina fight like this) Cap regularly beats pepole with all the skill that batman has.. and he does so BECAUSE HE HAS ALL THE PHYSICAL ADVANTAGES... This is a non fight... Cap wins 10/10
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cap knows more styles.
Cap was exaggerating... he isn't the top MA in Marvel, he is adept at h2h forms known to man iow the popular and known ones, which isn't that much, Batman on the other hand trained with more secret masters. Cap would have to be an idiot to claim to know everything when he doesn't even know every master in the world. So Batman knows still more is as skilled, a lot smarter and don't tell me that intelligence isn't also important for strategy and fighting, a cunning opponent is hard to beat. Still no one countered the pressure points which would negate CA strength and speed advantage.
Sorry but enough people disagree, this isn't a stomp, only wishful thinking on the pro-Marvel side. In all the Crossovers they were shown as peers, with Batman having the respect for CA and being wise and smart enough to see the physical advantage CA has, which in turn would let him be more cautious in their fight, CA on the other hand was shown to think.... nothing...
So
Both are
As skilled
Bullet Timers
CA Pro
Stronger
Faster
Batman Pro
Smarter (better tactician in 1 on 1 fights)
Knows more Skills
Pressure Points
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Delusional reply, Cap is lying Batman isn't...Bruce isn't the top Ma in Dc either...
skills at best is a wash, physically Cap wins...
Ok CA was trained back then during WW2, by the military, so they knew back then all the styles in the world? Gimme a break.
Physically yes, skillwise I agree, intelligence, pressure points and styles goes to bruce.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Ok CA was trained back then during WW2, by the military, so they knew back then all the styles in the world? Gimme a break.Physically yes, skillwise I agree, intelligence, pressure points and styles goes to bruce.
Except they don't, As Cap has also been stated to know all styles and has IIRC been shown to use pressure points.
Yet Bruce while running a company, having relationships with numerous women, developing all his tech, & generally being followed by the paparazzi can find time to learn them...
its a comic, he is the only CA if he says he was taught all styles, why not...
your suspending logic for one character, while trying to use your logic against another...
that's bias
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Yet Bruce while running a company, having relationships with numerous women, developing all his tech, & generally being followed by the paparazzi can find time to learn them...its a comic, he is the only CA if he says he was taught all styles, why not...
your suspending logic for one character, while trying to use your logic against another...
that's bias
That's BS. Bruce before doing all that stuff was traveling for years around the globe, training...
Think CA was taought by the Military of WW2 all styles in the World, also the unknown, is actually pretty....