Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Started by curryman220 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Captain America may very well win 10/10 against Batman.

That doesn't automatically mean he just manhandles Batman like a little girl or anything. I think Captain America has enough of an advantage that to argue he wins the fair majority isn't off base. But that's just a waste of energy imo.

6 or 10, it's whatever. Most agree that Steve has enough of a stat advantage to be the clear favorite in unarmed combat.

Not the way Morrison penned Bats.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Captain America would win 10/10 against Batman imo barring a lucky victory for Bruce maybe.

Some people don't understand that winning every fight doesn't mean it's a stomp.

They're confusing number of wins, with ease of the wins.

Originally posted by curryman
Not the way Morrison penned Bats.

Indeed.

Prometheus?

Didn't Cap school him in the crossover? I believe Prom even mentioned that he had Batman's skills downloaded.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prometheus?

Didn't Cap school him in the crossover? I believe Prom even mentioned that he had Batman's skills downloaded.

Well, he had Batmans skills against Batman too. 😄

And at least 30 other martial arts. While against Cap he specifically said he was loading up Batmans skills, with no word of other skills..

I just think this scenes baddass, though. Skill, and brutality, quick and to the point. Better then most scenes in his own comic.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, he had Batmans skills against Batman too. 😄

And at least 30 other martial arts. While against Cap he specifically said he was loading up Batmans skills, with no word of other skills..

I just think this scenes baddass, though. Skill, and brutality, quick and to the point. Better then most scenes in his own comic.

IIRC, Prom also used gadgets against Cap...I think Cap made some remark about it not working well against someone with his focus.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's what I am saying all along. But cap supporters get offended by anything less than 10/10 over batman.
Then they are *******.

Originally posted by Silent Master
They're confusing number of wins, with ease of the wins.

Pretty much this

Originally posted by Silent Master
Incorrect, the scan shows 3 bullets impacting Cap's shield and the other 3 hitting the floor in a later panel, so again, In order for your claim to hold water, you need to prove that either 1) Red Skull reloaded or 2) RS had two guns.
Those aren't the only two interpretations.

Choose!
1. Bullets were super slow since Red Skull manage to squeeze off 3 rounds before the first one traveled to the target. The mechanism of a revolver is slower than bullet speed.

2. First shots missed and thus writer didn't count the actual bullets.

3. Artist incorrectly drew the scene (Cap actually moved before the fire).

4. Those two things on the ground in the next panel wasn't bullets (but stuff that fell from the dresser) and thus the first three missed.

Bottomline: Neither 1. nor Red Skull being able to squeeze off three normal bullets before they strike makes sense.
2. and 3. makes more sense while
3. makes the most sense of them all.

I'll go with 3.
If you disagree then I guess you accept that Red Skull actually shot three rounds before the first one arrived at the target. Here I disagree since that makes no sense. Thus it has to be explained in a more sensible way.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Captain America may very well win 10/10 against Batman.

That doesn't automatically mean he just manhandles Batman like a little girl or anything. I think Captain America has enough of an advantage that to argue he wins the fair majority isn't off base. But that's just a waste of energy imo.

6 or 10, it's whatever. Most agree that Steve has enough of a stat advantage to be the clear favorite in unarmed combat.

The problem with fighting is that every fight doesn't go the same way. Sometimes chance plays a part. Batman has the ability to one shot Cap through pressure points, or a good counter combo, and so does Cap. That alone proves it can't be 10/10 either way.

What's the probability that Batman lands a pressure point strike on Cap before losing? Certainly more than 0%.

Most here agree that Cap wins this for a majority (although I can see arguments for a split). We are just arguing what majority Cap wins. I'm for the opinion that Cap wins 6-7/10, which seems very fair.

Originally posted by h1a8
Snip

The scan clearly shows that it's a 6 shooter and all 6 bullets are accounted for.

Originally posted by h1a8
Again, it's impossible to fire a second round before the 1st hit.

True... but it happens in comics...

I'm glad we all agree Cap wins the majority. 🙂

50-50

Cap wins via comparable skills and better physical stats.

Batman wins based on the arguments in this thread, Cap fans are repeating themselves and saying lulz Cap wins 10/10 even though he hasn't done anything to suggest so

With utility belt Batman wins 10/10 via cryoing Cap's ass

Hand to hand Bruce wins 6/10 via nerve strikes.

^ batdur

Steve uses pressure points, too.

Batman can reverse them, Steve can't

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
^ batdur

Steve uses pressure points, too.


Yeah, we saw how that went against Logan.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, we saw how that went against Logan.

The Best There Is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bruce

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The Best There Is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bruce

Batman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A canadian midget. Yeah, I went there.