Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Originally posted by kuraamyook
Batman wins based on the arguments in this thread, Cap fans are repeating themselves and saying lulz Cap wins 10/10 even though he hasn't done anything to suggest so

With utility belt Batman wins 10/10 via cryoing Cap's ass

Hand to hand Bruce wins 6/10 via nerve strikes.

This thread is 185 pages long, both sides have already posted feats for each side a few dozen times, there is no point in reposting them for the 35th time.

Most people agree that they have comparable skill and that Cap has better physical stats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A canadian midget. Yeah, I went there.

Nah, even Puck would beat Bats via kicking him in the nuts.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Nah, even Puck would beat Bats via kicking him in the nuts.

He already did (well punched him actually) and Logan is alive. Regenerating smashed balls must've hurt like a b!tch, though.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He already did (well punched him actually) and Logan is alive. Regenerating smashed balls must've hurt like a b!tch, though.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The scan clearly shows that it's a 6 shooter and all 6 bullets are accounted for.

Even if the bullets were accounted for, we still have several interpretations that conclude that Cap didn't outrace bullets.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
True... but it happens in comics...

But again Cap who can only run 35-60mph can't possibly outrace a bullet.
That would make him supersonic.

Originally posted by Silent Master
This thread is 185 pages long, both sides have already posted feats for each side a few dozen times, there is no point in reposting them for the 35th time.

Most people agree that they have comparable skill and that Cap has better physical stats.

It's a valid opinion to believe Batman wins a slight majority.
It's also valid that they split or Cap wins a slight majority.

Either answer is within reason.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not really. .

Incorrect, the scene clearly shows that the gun holds 6 bullets and all 6 were accounted for.

Originally posted by h1a8
Those aren't the only two interpretations.

Choose!
1. Bullets were super slow since Red Skull manage to squeeze off 3 rounds before the first one traveled to the target. The mechanism of a revolver is slower than bullet speed.

2. First shots missed and thus writer didn't count the actual bullets.

3. Artist incorrectly drew the scene (Cap actually moved before the fire).

4. Those two things on the ground in the next panel wasn't bullets (but stuff that fell from the dresser) and thus the first three missed.

Bottomline: Neither 1. nor Red Skull being able to squeeze off three normal bullets before they strike makes sense.
2. and 3. makes more sense while
3. makes the most sense of them all.

I'll go with 3.
If you disagree then I guess you accept that Red Skull actually shot three rounds before the first one arrived at the target. Here I disagree since that makes no sense. Thus it has to be explained in a more sensible way.

The problem with fighting is that every fight doesn't go the same way. Sometimes chance plays a part. Batman has the ability to one shot Cap through pressure points, or a good counter combo, and so does Cap. That alone proves it can't be 10/10 either way.

What's the probability that Batman lands a pressure point strike on Cap before losing? Certainly more than 0%.

Most here agree that Cap wins this for a majority (although I can see arguments for a split). We are just arguing what majority Cap wins. I'm for the opinion that Cap wins 6-7/10, which seems very fair.

As far as Captain America beating Promtheus, in that same comic Batman one shotted Taskmaster...

Originally posted by kuraamyook
I agree with you about the bullet feat, I don't think Cap outran bullets but even if he did it would be PIS anyway

Except, the comic clearly shows him outrunning the bullets.

This is still open is it? Cant be bothered to read it anymore, but are people actually siding with Batman here?

Originally posted by tkitna
This is still open is it? Cant be bothered to read it anymore, but are people actually siding with Batman here?

Well, according to one poster...Batman is almost as skilled as pre-crisis Karate Kid.

Originally posted by tkitna
This is still open is it? Cant be bothered to read it anymore, but are people actually siding with Batman here?

Originally posted by kuraamyook
Sure, he's moe likely to beat Cap than vice versa

Because Batman having comparable skill and lower physical stats is somehow an advantage?

Originally posted by kuraamyook
Sure, he's moe likely to beat Cap than vice versa

How?

Cap is quite a bit stronger, physically faster, FAR more durable, his perception speed is faster, he hits harder, and has a decent healing factor of his own. Any meager skill difference is a lot smaller than the physical stat difference.

Batman will be a lot more hurt from a Cap punch than vice versa. Cap being faster and quicker in perception speed will also land more punches than vice versa.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Punch=/=Kick.

This response just feels....right

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
How?

Cap is quite a bit stronger, physically faster, FAR more durable, his perception speed is faster, he hits harder, and has a decent healing factor of his own. Any meager skill difference is a lot smaller than the physical stat difference.

Batman will be a lot more hurt from a Cap punch than vice versa. Cap being faster and quicker in perception speed will also land more punches than vice versa.

Batman strikes as hard so strength is a wash.
Batman has better pressure points and can end the first with a single blow so again strength is a wash.

Batman has better armor so durability is a wash.

Batman is arguably no slower in h2h speed than Cap by feats, and both are capable of having the speed and reflexes to defend against each other. I say speed is a wash.

Your post suggests that you don't know Batman feats well.

Batman athleticism is impressive for a man but in comparison to someone that is the next step in human evolution. It pales in comparison.

The only thing that is worth merit in Bruce's favor is skill but even that does not remotely seal the deal for him, since Cap's skill is very noted to the point, that in fighting since Cap's mind is boosted. Cap is probably the superior fighting machine as well, even with Bruce having more knowledge in techniques.

Originally posted by h1a8
Batman strikes as hard so strength is a wash.
Batman has better pressure points and can end the first with a single blow so again strength is a wash.

Batman has better armor so durability is a wash.

Batman is arguably no slower in h2h speed than Cap by feats, and both are capable of having the speed and reflexes to defend against each other. I say speed is a wash.

Your post suggests that you don't know Batman feats well.

Incorrect.