Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Originally posted by Juntai
You mean, when Bane broke his back? Batman was fighting for days straight, he could barely walk when he fought Bane. That's not the case in this thread, and he won't be fighting for days on end without a shred of rest.
Everytime they fought since, Bane ran.
And even that could be tallied up to PIS, given that Batman's done the fighting for days on end without rest multiple times, given the Fugitive storyline and No Man's Land storyline.
People act like Batman's stamina is simply going to fail on him after 5 minutes of fighting Cap, and it's simply not true given that we know from the comics themselves he can fight for days.

I don't think it's a question of Stamina, Batman's fighting skills will prove superior before that becomes an issue, as proven, both have capabilties lasting vast amounts of time in the field.

Originally posted by godking
Yes Batman has great stamina . But he cannot compare To Captain America in stamina.

Well then prove it...

Staminas not going to do him any good though once Batman pulls the pressure point moves on him.

Cap has the durabilty of any human.

Originally posted by Murda Mase
Well then prove it...

Staminas not going to do him any good though once Batman pulls the pressure point moves on him.

Cap has the durabilty of any human.

Meh, not really... He jumps out of planes parachuteless a LOT, he's not really human. He's not invincible, and not anything near immune to pressure points, but with his chainmail and human+ durability, I'd say him and Batman are about equal in that department. Also, his stamina is pretty much infinite... It's just part of his character.

Originally posted by Tulika
Mike Tyson is one of the shittiest boxers ever to earn big bucks. Don't use him as an example, thanks.
I would like to see someone explaining what kind of hits Cap could throw that hit Batman. They have to be absolutely supernatural to go past Bat's more than perfect defenses. Any move you consider making has already been calculated, foreseen and invented the response to by Bats a dozen times over before you can even think of completing the motion. Batman's inhuman intellect is the problem. Cap has speed, endurance and strength but that's absolutely nothing new to Bruce.
The base line is, they're probably equal in all respects of the physique, but Batman is just that much better. He has the intelligence, the training, the skills, the chi, the creativity and he isn't afraid to cheat. Captain America has nothing whatsoever over Batman.

Originally posted by Dizzle

I'm not following your logic, I guess. Batman knows everything at Cap knows. He could just use techniques from judo and jiu jitsu and such, and would probably end up matching Cap blow for blow. Now, he also throws in some random style from the Himalayas that happens to be a very good counter to jiu jitsu... You see where the advantage starts to come through? Cap does not know EVERY useful technique there is. Batman knows every good thing Cap knows, plus a whole lot of other good techniques. What Cap does not know is not necessarily bad.

He looks stronger than everyone when he fights them. He's Batman. The fact is, he was taking superstrength punches and hammering through superhuman durability. There IS an Aquaman respect thread. [/B]

Originally posted by Juntai
You mean, when Bane broke his back? Batman was fighting for days straight, he could barely walk when he fought Bane. That's not the case in this thread, and he won't be fighting for days on end without a shred of rest.
Everytime they fought since, Bane ran.
And even that could be tallied up to PIS, given that Batman's done the fighting for days on end without rest multiple times, given the Fugitive storyline and No Man's Land storyline.
People act like Batman's stamina is simply going to fail on him after 5 minutes of fighting Cap, and it's simply not true given that we know from the comics themselves he can fight for days.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Doesn't look like he deserves one🙂

Or... Does he?!?!?!?!

(Taken from the respek thread... http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t375903.html )

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6628/aquamandemandsrespect013mn.jpg
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1111/aquamandemandsrespect028ft.jpg

Yes, Batman taking him out had some PIS involved. The one Bats fouhgt isn't nearly as strong as this one, though he has always been well advanced in both strength and durability. Batman still has a gigantic skill advantage, and his suit doesn't get anything close to the respect it deserves. The thing is godly, as it has proven time and time again. Vote Batman. List Aquaman as your favorite 3rd party candidate, but don't actually vote for him because you and the everyone in the whole country KNOWS that there's no way he'll actually win. God bless America.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Nonstop?

You ever seen Cap actually fight for days on end, without ever getting a break? Exactly, single fights don't last that long. The point is, he lasted for a LONG time without sleeping, or likely even sitting down and relaxing and such. Murda posted a scan before of Batman and Superman fighting for 10 hours nonstop, and Batman states that 4 of them involved an unconscious Superman. So he defended himself for 4 hours straight, then had help from Superman for another 6 hours. Was he passed out? Was his fighting getting sloppy? Did he look like he was taking lots of hits?

The fight will have been over 5 times over before Batman even begins to feel fatigued enough to actually slow down. Cap's stamina is better, but Batman's is good enough that it won't make any difference in the fight whatsoever.

You have it as even. Why?

Originally posted by Dizzle

Yes, Batman taking him out had some PIS involved.

Aquaman is the lamest super hero to disgrace comic books. Followed by Robin, Gambit and the Hawk people

Originally posted by brainchild81
You have it as even. Why? Thank you. You know I wasn't gonna stop until you said it.🙂 That kinda stuff is why nobody respects AM now. DC don't give a f**k about ya if you're not Bats, Supes, or WW. Damn shame

That's not true, at least I don't think so. All heroes besides those three have their fair amount of good showings. Look at the GL and Aquaman respect threads.

Originally posted by Warmonger
Aquaman is the lamest super hero to disgrace comic books. Followed by Robin, Gambit and the Hawk people

Originally posted by Femi32
That's not true, at least I don't think so. All heroes besides those three have their fair amount of good showings. Look at the GL and Aquaman respect threads.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Take out Gambit and put in Jubilee. I'm actually starting to like HM after seeing him threaten Bats with his "I'm going to give you ten minutes you'll never forget line." (Bats was pissed 'cause they took ten minutes of his memory away and he punched HM right before) Look @ the issue where 'stroke almost beats up a small group of Leaguers. Notice who's there and who isn't there.

I heard about that one where Flash gets stabbed and WW gets shot. Everybody has low points. If DC doesn't care about Flash, why give him the ability to transcend lightspeed by huge multiples, lightspeed healing, give him an IMP that can knock out Superman, or form energy shields from the Speed Force?

Originally posted by Juntai
I don't think it's a question of Stamina, Batman's fighting skills will prove superior before that becomes an issue, as proven, both have capabilties lasting vast amounts of time in the field.

I don't think it's a question of fighting skill, captain america's stamina will prove superior after both have proven that their fighting ability are equally as effective. For the hundredth time, just because bats knows more martial arts doesn't make him a better fighter than capt.a

i know bats takes a lot of time before he gets tired, but cap takes an even longer time to get tired (remember the super soldier serum? the serum that stops lactic acids from developing?)

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't think it's a question of fighting skill, captain america's stamina will prove superior after both have proven that their fighting ability are equally as effective. For the hundredth time, just because bats knows more martial arts doesn't make him a better fighter than capt.a

i know bats takes a lot of time before he gets tired, but cap takes an even longer time to get tired (remember the super soldier serum? the serum that stops lactic acids from developing?)

Basically, that's what I said. Cap is stronger by a smidge, Batman is a better fighter, but to no great degree. His feats, and his training, and the fact that he DOES know everything that Cap knows and more, AND the people he fights, just put him up a notch.

How many fights, in comics or out, no matter how well paired, have you seen that last for 10 hours? NONE. Stamina will play absolutely no role whatsoever, as Batman can go for as long as he needs to; the fight will not drag on long enough for him to get tired. I'm not saying that he can last as long as Cap, but I AM saying that it won't matter.

Originally posted by Femi32
That's not true, at least I don't think so. All heroes besides those three have their fair amount of good showings. Look at the GL and Aquaman respect threads.

There is no thread in the world that could EVER make me respet Aquaman. I'm hung up on his lame costume and his lame theme (guy swims fast talks to fish).

Gambit is definetly lame though I am tempted to tie him with Jubilee they cna both go to a fruity costume show.

As for Hawk people there is nothing to repect about a guy dressed up like a Turkey.

You'd rather him dress like Martian Manhunter?

Originally posted by brainchild81
You'd rather him dress like Martian Manhunter?

Don't get me started on that freak show but at least his powes are cool.

To me I judge a caracter based on how much I would want to be that character that is why Aquaman is at the bottom. Yes even lower than Robin but just barely.

Originally posted by Warmonger
Don't get me started on that freak show but at least his powes are cool.

To me I judge a caracter based on how much I would want to be that character that is why Aquaman is at the bottom. Yes even lower than Robin but just barely.

Which characters would you want to be?