Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Now, let's see the scans of Batman beating the people you mentioned.

Already been posted in the thread. 😉

AM was DC's whipping boy for years because he's lame. Batman is DC's #1 guy. That fight was PIS(which is to be ignored here people. IGNORE PIS!!!!!!!!!!). I've never known the GLs to be all that great in h2h

Ey Silent Master,

those were cute scans and it's about time Cap followers show some action of the man but, you made a terrible mistake by posting those pics, they only further prove that Cap is a woos without his shield, and guess what, he has no shield in this fight.

Furthermore, some of those scans are not even Classic Cap, and the only scan you posted that Cap does not have his shield, is when he's beating on an inanimate object(steel door). All my scans are hand to hand displays of Batman's prowess and here's some more(Hand to Hand).

And here he stuns WW with a pressure point crack to her ears.

As for strength, which most of your scans were geared towards,

here he's repping out 300lbs with a broken back, Cap takes steel doors off their hinges with a broken arm, Batman reps 300lbs with a broken back, which is more difficult?

Meh, in DC, 127 styles IS every style on Earth. Figthing wise, they should be very close. Doesn't change the fact that in pure h2h, Batman's feats far outweigh Cap's. Purely in h2h, Batman's done very very well against both Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, and Batgirl. He's beaten Ra's Al Ghul, Haim, Bronze Tiger, many meta humans, and countless people named as the world's "top" fighters, sometimes many of them at the same time.

Anyone have proof that kicking down trees takes chi, or that it takes more than 100 tons of force? Here, it loks a lot like he's using exactly the same kick that he takes down a tree in combat.

Besides that, I've always said that Cap is a little bit stronger than Batman. The shield catching was very impressive for his speed, though. Does it outclass catching arrows, or moving fast enough to disarm groups of people (or just Green Lantern) before they can react? I have no idea. Needless to say, it's close.

Basically, I was favoring Batman heavily, because no one would provide proof. Thanks to Silent Master for doing so, I can go back to the argument that I made on page 1. Each take 5/10. Batman for very slightly better fighting skills, Cap for slightly superior strength. Yay.

I figured you wouldn't be convinced so I'll throw this in, and this is the cream of the crop as they say,

here he survives in the vacuum of space for 24 seconds

I'll see your Grundy/WW and raise you Cap using a pressure point on the Hulk

And then a regular attack, No shield

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ey Silent Master,

those were cute scans and it's about time Cap followers show some action of the man but, you made a terrible mistake by posting those pics, they only further prove that Cap is a woos without his shield

Cap takes for a while the temperature of a reactor.

The only problem I have with people with Namor's stats losing to Cap is that Namor himself has beaten Cap twice... First, it was a very long fight. The next time, Namor made him look silly, plain and simple.

I don't really regard hurting Wonderwoman as an acceptable feat, if only because of how shaky her "durability" stat is. She's gotten punched from the sun to Earth by Superman, yet she's in massive pain from a Batman-delivered pressure point strike? I wouldn't typically buy it, though I WILL bring it up for anything PIS that Cap happens to pull.

And that's fine since we have Cap affecting the Hulk with and without pressure points if you want to go that route.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Damn!! Cap is diesel as hell. I also think that Batman's tree punching was done with a sufficient amount of concentration and chi focus. He won't have that here. Cap 10/10

why wouldnt he?? he knows hes about to fight virtually the worlds greatest h2h combatant ever known(marvel universe), so of course batmans gunna be focused....

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ey Silent Master,

those were cute scans and it's about time Cap followers show some action of the man but, you made a terrible mistake by posting those pics, they only further prove that Cap is a woos without his shield, and guess what, he has no shield in this fight.

They do?

By all means then, start posting scans of non-metas beating Cap in HTH.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Meh, in DC, 127 styles IS every style on Earth. Figthing wise, they should be very close. Doesn't change the fact that in pure h2h, Batman's feats far outweigh Cap's. Purely in h2h, Batman's done very very well against both Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, and Batgirl. He's beaten Ra's Al Ghul, Haim, Bronze Tiger, many meta humans, and countless people named as the world's "top" fighters, sometimes many of them at the same time.

Anyone have proof that kicking down trees takes chi, or that it takes more than 100 tons of force? Here, it loks a lot like he's using exactly the same kick that he takes down a tree in combat.

Besides that, I've always said that Cap is a little bit stronger than Batman. The shield catching was very impressive for his speed, though. Does it outclass catching arrows, or moving fast enough to disarm groups of people (or just Green Lantern) before they can react? I have no idea. Needless to say, it's close.

Basically, I was favoring Batman heavily, because no one would provide proof. Thanks to Silent Master for doing so, I can go back to the argument that I made on page 1. Each take 5/10. Batman for very slightly better fighting skills, Cap for slightly superior strength. Yay.

Originally posted by brainchild81
They do? How? I've seen him beat bears up w/no shield or even a costume. Where are the pix of somebody non-meta beating a shiledless Cap down?

It's not my job to prove he's incompetent. It's YOUR job to prove that he's as good as Batman, which is far, far beyond punching a bear.

How hot was that furnace thing, SM? Batman's costume has actually taken quite a lot of heat as well, ranging from explosions to powerful fire blasts.

I don't recall it specifically stating what the temp was

oops *edited* already seem posted in the previous thread 😛

Originally posted by Dizzle
It's not my job to prove he's incompetent. It's YOUR job to prove that he's as good as Batman, which is far, far beyond punching a bear.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'll see your Grundy/WW and raise you Cap using a pressure point on the Hulk

And then a regular attack, No shield

Uhh first of all what pressure is he putting on the Hulk, Hulk is smiling at him, like I do when my son tries to beat me up, lol, and the second scan he merely kicked the Hulk in the face, that's not owning him at all, but since you went there, let's see Batman owning Hulk now.