Originally posted by brainchild81
Thanks for that link dude.from page 35
ill admit, im a batman fan. but it honestly seemed to me that batman acknowledged that cap was a great fighter, that cap COULD possibly beat him, and that most of all, cap seemed to be the LEADER of the avengers. batman is the brains of the jla. he knew that if they fought, it would take a long time, time better spent on finding out exactly what was going on. and if one of them lost, it would not help the cause. like i said, batman was not sure, and he couldnt take a chance on being knocked out of the battle.
Kurt wrote:
To my eye, that's about as close as Batman can come to admitting defeat out loud. But to each his own. Anyone wants to think Superman just got in a lucky shot, or Batman was lying ... well, these are stories, and they happen in between the printed page and the audience's minds. So it goes.There it is folks. From the writers mouth. Batman knows when he's beat. I've pretty much said that from the beginning The debate on the meaning of what Batman said is officially over. He avoided getting a beatdown. Believe it!!! He's a very smart man. Back to the featwars.
Its still not anymore canon than DC vs Marvel.
Originally posted by badabing
This debate can last forever. The fact is Bats and Cap are the pinnacle of human development. IMO, this fight is way too close. A misstep by one combatant and it's all over. The question that I pose is: Who will make the first mistake?
Originally posted by capt it up
capt has the edge in every area ecpt for intel
Originally posted by badabing
Well, IMO they are very close in fighting skill. Check Batdude's post. I'll agree that Cap is stronger, I believe 5 tons under optimal conditions. My problem is that they are too even in my book and I think they are both great characters.
Originally posted by Mr MasterNah. Writer says Batman pretty much admitted defeat.
What about keeping your friends close but your enemies closer,
it might of been some godfather mind trick he pulled, lol.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceDidn't say it was. I just wanted the people who saw that fight and saw only what they wanted to see to know that they were wrong. Batman talked his way out of an @$$kicking that he saw coming a mile away. People gotta learn to read between the lines. I knew what was going on the moment I read it.🙂 Batman rocks but Cap rocks just a bit more in h2h
Its still not anymore canon than DC vs Marvel.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Nah. Writer says Batman pretty much admitted defeat.
Whew, good thing it's not canon then...
Didn't say it was. I just wanted the people who saw that fight and saw only what they wanted to see to know that they were wrong. Batman talked his way out of an @$$kicking that he saw coming a mile away. People gotta learn to read between the lines. I knew what was going on the moment I read it.🙂 Batman rocks but Cap rocks just a bit more in h2h
In h2h? I've been waiting for some proof for at least a few months now, brainchild. There's still 20 something scans floating around this thread.
So far, as I've seen, Batman's speed and skill feats slightly edge out Cap's... His training was far more extensive, and his more h2h intensive villains are a step and a half above anything Cap's ever fought in pure h2h. Experience is fairly equal. Cap's strength DOES beat out Batman's, but by a very small margin. Cap benches a little over 1000, I'd put Batman into the 800-900 pound range. Ripping a pipe off of the ground is no laughing matter. Batman's suit is, by all accounts, far stronger than Cap's.
Let's review...
Speed: Slight edge to Batman
Strength: Slight edge to Cap
Skill: Tie
Experience: Tie
Durability: Batman
Honestly, the edges are so small that most any advantage one might hope to gain is offset by the other's strengths almost perfectly evenly. This is one of the closest matchups I can think of, determining a winner is really all but impossible. 5/10 each.
Link to a Cap respect thread
http://superherochat.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=100779&start=0
Originally posted by DizzleDamn right! Nobody wants a pack of snarling Batfanboys throwing rocks @ their office building. You know your good buddy brainchild had to fill you in on the truth though. Couldn't let you go on thinking Bats thought it was even🙂
Whew, good thing it's not canon then...
Originally posted by DizzleYep and some of them are pretty cool too. However some of them are flat out PIS or lame. The ones w/Supes just show how gullible Supes is. The one w/the werewolf b**ch is lame cause she had issues from the start. The one with the guy that's not Cap isn't impressive on ANY level because the guy's fighting Batman with a broken arm. Bart wasn't trying to avoid being caught & him beating Zeiss just didn't make any sense unless Zeiss is slow as molasses. Him even giving WW a contest is pointless 'cause she's not fighting as hard as she can. I see right through Bullsh*t feats. If this is merely a PIS war, then Batman wins 10/10. Batman's been in way more books and has way more PIS feats. You haven't really proven anything to be honest. We already know Batman's fast. Show us a "faster than Cap" scan. It's unlikely that you can. Same way I'll likely not find any "faster than Batman" scans. I'll just go by what I know about the characters. Batman's a non-meta and Cap's bigger than him so he's also stronger, faster, more agile and has better stamina(super soldier serum).
In h2h? I've been waiting for some proof for at least a few months now, brainchild. There's still 20 something scans floating around this thread.
Originally posted by DizzleNah. Cap wins 9/10. 1/10 Cap gets hit by a powerful stream of water for no reason @ all and loses. What martial arts was the grappler guy Batman fought using?
So far, as I've seen, Batman's speed and skill feats slightly edge out Cap's... His training was far more extensive, and his more h2h intensive villains are a step and a half above anything Cap's ever fought in pure h2h. Experience is fairly equal. Cap's strength DOES beat out Batman's, but by a very small margin. Cap benches a little over 1000, I'd put Batman into the 800-900 pound range. Ripping a pipe off of the ground is no laughing matter. Batman's suit is, by all accounts, far stronger than Cap's.Let's review...
Speed: Slight edge to Batman
Strength: Slight edge to Cap
Skill: Tie
Experience: Tie
Durability: BatmanHonestly, the edges are so small that most any advantage one might hope to gain is offset by the other's strengths almost perfectly evenly. This is one of the closest matchups I can think of, determining a winner is really all but impossible. 5/10 each.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Your sig is cool as hell and the Taskmaster respect thread is awesome, but I really feel like your love for Batman is clouding your judgment. Aren't you one of those guys who said "Batman's a liar" in regards to JLA/Avengers?
Thanks.😄
And no......atleast I don't remember saying it, but Batman is a Liar though.
In the end, this battle is so evenly matched and could go both ways that all it really comes down to is which character or company you like more.
And my favorite character is Batman and I feel he can win this more then not.