Originally posted by King KAM
The one inch punch is Bullshit, just like most of his Jeet Kun DO crap, he was a pretty good fighter, but nothing special, your only as good as your competition and he fought guys that were just uber weanies.
Hate talk!!!
Dogs, already with the Oakland inventing crack, you fell off, crack was invented by a Dominican man named Yayo... then Nino Brown is based on Mr. Mitchell, some big time "drug dealer" from Oakland. LOL that's still makes me laugh, hahahahaha. When the character that was "representing" Mr. Mitchell said "the Dominicans and Colombians showed us the way", didn't know there where Dominicans or Colombians in mid-late 70's Oakland, but then again it's you that lives there.
Now Bruce Lee is crap, with his fake one inch punch because some website said so,
yo Kam I have a link to a website that say's Unicorns are real, so now we know that's a fact aswell, -- what do you mean they don't exist, I read it in a website.
Originally posted by unknowableand i got a link to a site that says your a b'itch you want it
Hate talk!!!Dogs, already with the Oakland inventing crack, you fell off, crack was invented by a Dominican man named Yayo... then Nino Brown is based on Mr. Mitchell, some big time "drug dealer" from Oakland. LOL that's still makes me laugh, hahahahaha. When the character that was "representing" Mr. Mitchell said "the Dominicans and Colombians showed us the way", didn't know there where Dominicans or Colombians in mid-late 70's Oakland, but then again it's you that lives there.
Now Bruce Lee is crap, with his fake one inch punch because some website said so,
yo Kam I have a link to a website that say's Unicorns are real, so now we know that's a fact aswell, -- what do you mean they don't exist, I read it in a website.
unkowableisafuccingbi'tch.com
Originally posted by unknowable
Strength Level: Captain America represents the pinnacle of human physical perfection. While not superhuman, he is as strong as a human being can be. He can lift (press) a maximum of 800 pounds with supreme effort.
I'm pretty sure that's the case for Batman, too, in the DC universe, only he hasn't had any super serum or help along the way, unlike Cap.
I think Batman would be able to end up out smarting Cap and take it in the end, after a VERY close battle...
Originally posted by King KAM
and i got a link to a site that says your a b'itch you want itunkowableisafuccingbi'tch.com
yea yea,
Internet geeks always resort to beating up their own monitors, LOL
everyone talks big in the safety and security of their homes, behind a screen when all there is to fear are fonts on a display, LOLOLOLOL
Bottom line,
1. Oakland did not invent Crack, A Dominican man named YAYO(pronounced YAHYO)in NYC invented Crack, you probably got that from some website too, didn't you, ---- come on, you did didn't you.
2. You said you only need one style to win a fight and knowing many styles like Batman is pointless, yet even the Brazilians who invented that derivited of Jiu-Jitsu and wiped everyone out with it, realized they needed more when fighters more rounded started beating their faces in, hence Mixed Martial Arts = many fighting styles like Batman.
3. Yoy supposedly made some guy tap out during an amature fight ina ring or cage, I believe you,
but like I said before fighting in the streets is totally different than fighting in a ring or cage with a referee in a controlled environment, in the street, if you grapple me, forcing me to tap out, I will bite legs, arms, or a face to get out, I will claw eyes out and squeeze testicles until I feel them pop in my grip. The best thing would be to get one of your fingers in my mouth so I can hack it off with my teeth.
My point is,
This is a street fight, and I think in terms of life and death Batman would out do Cap. Batman is deadlier.
Cap wins 7-8/10 in a controlled environment. like Kam
Bats wins 6-7/10 in a life and death struggle. like Unknowable
Originally posted by Ganner RhysodeNah. Cap's just gotta keep the pressure on. That's gonna be easy because he's faster than Batman. Batman will be doing all he can to dodge punches from the faster and stronger Cap. Cap can keep the speed up though, Batman can't. Batman hasn't yet shown that he's able to outsmart Cap. Outsmarting Cap in a fight is easier said than done. I don't think either one of them will out smart the other in a brawl. They're both good tacticians. I don't think anybody's getting outsmarted here, just outmuscled, out quicked, outlasted, and outfought
I'm pretty sure that's the case for Batman, too, in the DC universe, only he hasn't had any super serum or help along the way, unlike Cap.I think Batman would be able to end up out smarting Cap and take it in the end, after a VERY close battle...
Captain America fought a clone of himself in the Red Skull who is just as good fighter as Captain America and is smarter than CA, and you know what CA has beaten more times that I can count and their both super solders. Captain America endurance, agility, durability, strength, are greater than Batman's I don't what is so hard to understand. Batman was physical and mentally tired during knight fall the same story arc Bane open a can of whoop ass on him, that's to show that batman has his limits if that was captain america; hell cap would have knock Bane out the window with judo punch. I will give batman a edge as for intelligence but that's not going guarantee a win for Batman at all.
Originally posted by King KAM
you know what this post shows me? that you know absolutley nothing about real fighting,Bruce Lees one in punch was a HOAX just like Bruce Lee was a HOAX, it AINT REAL, get it through your skull.
It doesnt matter how many s tyles you know, someone who knows kung-fu,eagle-claw,tiger-claw,Tae-kwon Do,gung -fu,drunken fist,and Karate STILL ,loses to a SLIGHTLY above average wrestler, 10/10 times, so how about you stop reading about fights and watching movies, and go get in some, and watch REAL fights, and then holla at me.
Bats takes shots from supes and wonder-woman, and then gets his face kicked in by Lady Shiva and DS sounds like some PIS to me..........why?? Because it is!, Bats is FAR away from caps level of staminam, because its not humanly possible to fight as long as cap can, take a Bio-physics class.they will tell you about fatiguing toxins that make you exhausted, and then you know that no matter how good of shape hes in, he CANT equal captains.
You are saying that someone who is not as old as cap, hasnt seen as many battles as cap and HAS to have an alter-ego, has more combat experience, thats impossible, batman leads 2 lives, cap only leads one.
And you my friend are grasping at straws, you are taking the connotation of the word "conceive" that best suits your arguments.Im taking the one that best suits mine.🙂
No, Bruce Lee actually did it... He wasn't as godly a fighter as many would believe (coughJPcough) but he was the BEST when it comes to the philosophy aspect of fighting, and he was still physically amazing. He curled more than he benched, as I recall. Basically, he wasn't a great fighter, but the techniques he did invent were groundbreaking. He claimed, up to the day he died, that his art was nowhere near finished. Would it have been uber? Possibly. No one knows.
A master in a variety of martial arts loses to a fairly competent wrestler? Not likely. Grappling has an advantage over striking, yes, but who the hell says Batman knows nothing about grappling? Mixed martial artists tend to do best when they predominantly specialize in grappling, but someone with no striking ability at all and fairly good wrestling will get shafted terribly against someone who knows what they're doing on their feet.
Getting whacked by Supes was the argument against "well... uh.. Cap got hit by Thor!!!!11~~~" So far, the only realistic durability feat is Batman taking a very large number of rounds to the chest from point blank and still managing to KO the guy. Stamina wise, he's not as good as Cap, but he's good enough that it'll make no difference. He has survived, unaided, in the vacuum of space for 24 seconds. He would've kept going, but Manhunter closed the airlock out of concern. (attatched)
Cap was frozen for a LONG portion of his career, and he didn't get the serum and didn't have any fighting experience until he got the serum. Both have had tons and tons of experience, but Batman's actual training was much longer and more intense.
... How is anything I've said grasping at straws? You originally argued that Batman conceded to Cap in JLA/Avengers. I posted the scan, and said you were wrong. You argued against the definition of the word "conveivably". And yes, it only has 1 definition.
And, by popular demand... Space.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Nah. Cap's just gotta keep the pressure on. That's gonna be easy because he's faster than Batman. Batman will be doing all he can to dodge punches from the faster and stronger Cap. Cap can keep the speed up though, Batman can't. Batman hasn't yet shown that he's able to outsmart Cap. Outsmarting Cap in a fight is easier said than done. I don't think either one of them will out smart the other in a brawl. They're both good tacticians. I don't think anybody's getting outsmarted here, just outmuscled, out quicked, outlasted, and outfought
Faster? I think not.
This entire group of dudes with guns?
Does Cap REALLY have skills? He trained for a lil while after he got the serum, and that is IT. No more. The rest is on pure experience and physical prowess. He's not trained nearly as well as Bruce.
Holy crap, he DOES know 127 styles...
Again, his striking power is at least as good or better than Cap's, regardless of whether his actual strength is or not. And overall strength is VERY close as it is, witha very slight edge to Cap. (It's like benching 1000 pounds vs. benching 800 something...)
Physically, Cap is stronger. Speed is very close, possibly even an edge to Bats. Strength goes to Cap, striking power is pretty equal. Skill goes to Batman. Endurance goes to Cap, though Batman CAN and DOES last for a very long time before tiring. The fight won't drag on for days, fatigue won't be a factor.
5/10 each.
Oh, and as a side note, do you have ANY idea how many times Batman has beaten the living crap out of Bane? He lost once, and has destroyed him ever since. He was tired, whoop dee do. Low feat, or showing that he's human? Take your pick, Cap's lost before too.
In the crossover life posted pix of Bruce admits Cap has the edge in speed. Cap is faster. We know Bats knows more styles, but Cap has beaten up people that know more styles than him before. Cap is a master @ doing the absolute best with what he's got. He's that damn good @ using what he knows. All those styles and Bruce has never been able to outfight Cap yet. He simply can't. Bats probably knows more styles than Azreal too. That didn't stop Az from kicking his @$$ so bad he had to save him afterwards.
So you show us something NON-canon to prove it, GENIUS!
So King KAM which one are you calling NON-canon Marvel vs. Dc or Detective comics #815 (Where batman dissappears in front of the cop)
I can't accept it till I see it. Any pix of Batman growing in someone's mind?
Ok brainchild81 here it is....
(Oh and King KAM are you saying this is NON-Canon?)
Originally posted by Brainchild81
I've never heard this before. What's the name of that site KAM? & Life please answer all my questions
ok
The one inch punch is Bullshit, just like most of his Jeet Kun DO crap, he was a pretty good fighter, but nothing special, your only as good as your competition and he fought guys that were just uber weanies.
Well I guess you would have been a good match for bruce lee since as you are the one to decide who where weanies and who where not. 🙂 Who would you have recommended in bruce lee time that was not a weanie?
Originally posted by brainchild81Except every other encounter, and there was multiple afterwards, Bruce beat Azrael.
In the crossover life posted pix of Bruce admits Cap has the edge in speed. Cap is faster. We know Bats knows more styles, but Cap has beaten up people that know more styles than him before. Cap is a master @ doing the absolute best with what he's got. He's that damn good @ using what he knows. All those styles and Bruce has never been able to outfight Cap yet. He simply can't. Bats probably knows more styles than Azreal too. That didn't stop Az from kicking his @$$ so bad he had to save him afterwards.
And in DC vs Marvel, while people are considering it in this thread, Batman did beat Cap and saved him, and drug him out of the sewer.
