Originally posted by Smasandian
Thats a load of shit.
We're not talking about Big Ben's TD.We're talking about all the other bad calls.
I'm not going ro repeat on how the Seahawks could of won, because it has been repeated countless times.Can we do a better job reffing?
Probably not, but its their job to get the calls right, they get trained and paid to do it.
I can just see a welder responsible for welding support joists on a bridge. He is the only person who can do it because he has the qualifications. So if he ****s up welding the joints, and 1000 people die, is a response of this quality," sorry guys, but can you do it better, because I know you cant" allowed? No.
It's called a job. Everybody has a different job and they're experienced, trained and get paid for it, and if they **** up, then its thier fault, no matter if somebody else cant do it.
Excellent point. It definately would be the welder's fault, but in the case of the Superbowl, the refs did their job absolutely beautifully!
Originally posted by PINBALL
The were atleast 8 calls that were terrible and they all happened to involve the hawks, seems a little suspicious.
No, not at all. It tells me that the Seacocks need:
A. more practice
B. to do a better job of concealing intentionally illegal actions
C. a better coach, instead of some fatass with a mustache who just stands there quietly with a dumb look on his face cuz he knowz he can't do anything to help his sorry team
D (and prolly most likely). ALL OF THE ABOVE
Originally posted by DiamondBullets
No, not at all. It tells me that the Seahawks need:A. more practice
B. to do a better job of concealing intentionally illegal actions
C. a better coach, instead of some fatass with a mustache who just stands there quietly with a dumb look on his face cuz he knowz he can't do anything to help his sorry team
D (and prolly most likely). ALL OF THE ABOVE
I edited SeaHAWKS specially, just for PINBALL.
Originally posted by PINBALL
Did you actually watch the game, or watch ANY of the commentators(not steeler fan commentators) they all say it was very poor officiating. You made money ok but the Hawks had the Super Bowl Stolen from them.
Yes, and appearantly they had biases. Or maybe they had money on the Hawks. Ya never know.
"the Hawks ha the Super Bowl Stolen from them."
^ 😬 now, now.....
Say those 8 "BS" calls were never made: do you honestly think Seattle woulda won??? C'mon! Even if I wasn't a Steeler fan, there's no way in hell I woulda bet on the Hawks.
Originally posted by DiamondBullets
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the officiating. It was fair and perfectly down the middle. Just cuz your team lost: "OH MY GOD!, THE REFS MUSTA SCREWED'EM!" please.......
Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Yes, and appearantly they had biases. Or maybe they had money on the Hawks. Ya never know."the Hawks ha the Super Bowl Stolen from them."
^ 😬 now, now.....
Say those 8 "BS" calls were never made: do you honestly think Seattle woulda won??? C'mon! Even if I wasn't a Steeler fan, there's no way in hell I woulda bet on the Hawks.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=35171
It's not just Hawks fans. If those BS calls were never made, and Ill give you the BEN TD cuz that was too close anyway, The game would have been totally different. It would have most likely been 24-21 Seahawks, and thats saying that the Steelers got enough yard to do that trick play for the TD (which was helped by the horrible call on Hasselbecks Tackle, Which was after the Interception he threw a few plays later after that phantom holding call that would have had the hawks on the 1, not ot mention the Steelers were offsides anyway, and were holding all day long and they got away with alot worse.). Honestly I don't Care that much who wins, but I care as a football fan to see a fair game. I realize the Steelers were meant to be there, they earned the right to be there, but still, give both teams a chance. Refs never should decide the outcome. Believe what you want, but when the same happens to pittsburgh dont cry then.
Originally posted by botankus
Refs hold full-time positions like high school P.E. coach and insurance salesmen. The ref for the Indy/Steelers game was a principal at a Catholic Prep school in California. So no, it's not their "real" job. Maybe you mean the NFL should look into hiring full-time referees...and for that I would agree.
I agree also. But it's unrealistic.
They dont get paid alot and its seasonal work. Unless NFL increases the wages or pays per year, instead for half a year, refs need other sources of income.
But my point is that just because its not thier "real" job, doesnt mean that they cant get blame for it. They're paid to ref a game fairly and during the Superbowl, they made a few critical mistakes. (I'm not going to say they meant to give it to the Steelers)
The officiating was bad because most of bad calls came up at very critical times.
I like how hockey does the officiating in the playoffs. They let the teams battle and not call every single infraction.
😄 ^ My bad
Originally posted by Pezmerga
It's not just Hawks fans. If those BS calls were never made, and Ill give you the BEN TD cuz that was too close anyway, The game would have been totally different. It would have most likely been 24-21 Seahawks, and thats saying that the Steelers got enough yard to do that trick play for the TD (which was helped by the horrible call on Hasselbecks Tackle, Which was after the Interception he threw a few plays later after that phantom holding call that would have had the hawks on the 1, not ot mention the Steelers were offsides anyway, and were holding all day long and they got away with alot worse.). Honestly I don't Care that much who wins, but I care as a football fan to see a fair game. I realize the Steelers were meant to be there, they earned the right to be there, but still, give both teams a chance. Refs never should decide the outcome. Believe what you want, but when the same happens to pittsburgh dont cry then.
I agree, that it woulda been about a 3 to 4 point difference, but not in the Seahawks favor. The zebras really didn't like Hasslebeck that night, I know. In a way, it kinda remined me of when Gannon threw the Superbowl in '03. I could swore the mafia put a hit on him, cuz he was obviously shaving numbers----maybe the refs had a conditional hit?
I think the amount of interceptions in this year's Superbowl were horrible. That one, when the Hawks intercepted near the endzone, and made a good return had me shitting bricks. I coulda swore they had a TD. If the refs pulled there glasses outta their asses and actually wore them, then it wouldn'ta been as biased, it def. woulda ended with point difference of less than six. No doubt.
Originally posted by DiamondBullets
😄 ^ My badI agree, that it woulda been about a 3 to 4 point difference, but not in the Seahawks favor. The zebras really didn't like Hasslebeck that night, I know. In a way, it kinda remined me of when Gannon threw the Superbowl in '03. I could swore the mafia put a hit on him, cuz he was obviously shaving numbers----maybe the refs had a conditional hit?
I think the amount of interceptions in this year's Superbowl were horrible. That one, when the Hawks intercepted near the endzone, and made a good return had me shitting bricks. I coulda swore they had a TD. If the refs pulled there glasses outta their asses and actually wore them, then it wouldn'ta been as biased, it def. woulda ended with point difference of less than six. No doubt.
Being a Bengals fan isn't that bad by the way =P. I'm still proud that a AFC North Team brought home the Lombardi, Cuz it really is the whole season's reward. I knew the winner of the Bengals/Steelers game would have a strong playoff run.
Originally posted by PINBALL
Did you actually watch the game, or watch ANY of the commentators(not steeler fan commentators) they all say it was very poor officiating. You made money ok but the Hawks had the Super Bowl Stolen from them.
When you file that complaint, please tell Bill Belichick that he needs to give the ring back for Super Bowl XXXVI, for it's obvious that they wouldn't have won if it weren't for the "Tuck Rule," according to this logic. There won't be any "dynasty," either, considering they are now going to have hand over the Lamar Hunt Trophy to the Raiders after you write your letter.
Maybe the league can mail the Seahawks a cardboard cut-out Lombardi Trophy that says "Super Bowl Champs" written in Sharpie at the top. Then, they can show it off (weather permitting, of course, because cardboard will ruin in rain) for their three fans during a one-block parade next week.
The Steelers took everything away from their haters. Think about everything they used as smack talk over the years.
· Cowher is a choker.
· All Ben does is hand off.
· Ben is a rookie fluke.
· Bettis is old and fat and will never win anything.
· Joey Porter runs his mouth and never backs it up.
· Steelers fans live in the 70's.
· Those 4 Super Bowl trophies are old and dusty.
· Haven't won anything since Jimmy Carter was President.
It's all gone now. It was all taken away from them. So what's the ONLY thing the critics have left?
"You cheated."
Yep. Like any third grader that gets his ass kicked on the playground: "You cheated".
Hopefully I'm done discussing this. Everyone please continue to fire off conspiracy accusations at will and maybe it will make you feel better. If any Seahawk bandwagoners still don't feel good, I'll take you out for ice cream, too.
Originally posted by botankus
The Steelers took everything away from their haters. Think about everything they used as smack talk over the years.
· Cowher is a choker. Personally I always thought Bill Cowher was a great coach. And I am even a Bengals fan!
· All Ben does is hand off. To be honest , maybe he should have in the Superbowl lol. But he is a good QB.
. Ben is a rookie fluke.
· Bettis is old and fat and will never win anything.
· Joey Porter runs his mouth and never backs it up.- He really didn't do much during the Superbowl after running his mouth.
· Steelers fans live in the 70's.
· Those 4 Super Bowl trophies are old and dusty.
· Haven't won anything since Jimmy Carter was President.
It's all gone now. It was all taken away from them. So what's the ONLY thing the critics have left?"You cheated." Anyone who claims the steelers cheated are morons, I Just think the Refs blew calls, and were a little biased, maybe it wasn't intentional, but the Steelers are the Champs, and it is what it is. GO AFC NORTH!
Yep. Like any third grader that gets his ass kicked on the playground: "You cheated".
Hopefully I'm done discussing this. Everyone please continue to fire off conspiracy accusations at will and maybe it will make you feel better. If any Seahawk bandwagoners still don't feel good, I'll take you out for ice cream, too.
Originally posted by botankus
When you file that complaint, please tell Bill Belichick that he needs to give the ring back for Super Bowl XXXVI, for it's obvious that they wouldn't have won if it weren't for the "Tuck Rule," according to this logic. There won't be any "dynasty," either, considering they are now going to have hand over the Lamar Hunt Trophy to the Raiders after you write your letter.Maybe the league can mail the Seahawks a cardboard cut-out Lombardi Trophy that says "Super Bowl Champs" written in Sharpie at the top. Then, they can show it off (weather permitting, of course, because cardboard will ruin in rain) for their three fans during a one-block parade next week.
I had a really good joke about how they dont play superbowls in the rain, but I misread it. Ah crap.
I still think Bettis is old. (Sorry)
Originally posted by botankus
for their three fans during a one-block parade next week.
seattle is said to have the loudest stadium next to maybe arrowhead only.. and has perhaps the best homefield advantage due to it in the league...
by the way i dont think its a conspiracy theory, pitt did nothing wrong, but the reffing was poor as it was all season if they were too go back and correct the superbowl calls theyd need to go back all season and the same teams wouldnt even be in the playoffs.. the refs flat out sucked all year and capped it off in the superbowl.