Insults to muslims or freedom of speech?

Started by finti35 pages

Jerusalem Post prints the cartoon in today`s paper

That ought to stir things up I guess, but Israel is already hated by so many there, don't know if it will make much of a difference.

Isn't Protestantism, Catholicism and Orthodox etc called "movements" within christianity, certainly sounds better.

I can't understand anyone defending the violence!! It doesn't matter how large the cultural difference etc is, NOBODY should start making death threats, burning embassies etc because of a cartoon. It's absolutely insane. I hope our goverment make a stand here...

Originally posted by Makedde
I saw about the Muslims on last nights news, how they bombed the buildings etc. They have a right to be offended.

Nobody bombed any buildings. Please dont start peppering a thread with inaccuracies.

I have a feeling that this is no longer about the cartoon. This is turning into a clash of cultures. Quite frankly is time for someone to take resposibility for their actions. And it should from both sides. But given the fact that it all started with a cartoon from newspaper. They should release an official apology. In which they should explain why they did it in the first place. And that they meant no harm with doing it. So, are they doing it? Or are they just a bunch jerk clowns that get their kicks by pissing off people? and most likely laughing at the mayhem they helped create?

Very well said WD.

I followed the Danish Foreign Minister on his official aoplogy last night and he also said that it was not right to target a whole country for the blatant desregard commited by a few.

He also said that an inquiry is being held to establish if the cartoons and caricatures where blasphemic, to which Denmark has a law that was last used in 1932 (or some time back there).

In That case it would be possible to take the responsables to court under blasphemy charges.

Yeah, I definately thnk that it has nothing to do w/ the cartoon. Its stupid though, they dont want anybody to make fun of their prophet and yet they have a bunch of anti semetic cartoons themselves.

In which they should explain why they did it in the first place. And that they meant no harm with doing
they did say why when they posted the cartoons. It was an invite for artist to draw muhammed for a new book ment for religious education, they ment no harm by it. They just showed the few examples they got

These idiots have attacked European territory an have burned flags with crosses on them.

And above all an Irani newspaper posted an article which says the Holocaust never happened.

And they're saying they're insulted by a cartoon?

there has been a lot of things that insult christianity, like the jerry springer opera..and other stuff- but they didnt go threatening others.

they are angry for being called violence of something..but they didnt really help their cause...

Originally posted by Da preacher
These idiots have attacked European territory an have burned flags with crosses on them.

And above all an Irani newspaper posted an article which says the Holocaust never happened.

And they're saying they're insulted by a cartoon?


how can they really say that didnt happen..really

Originally posted by Da preacher
And they're saying they're insulted by a cartoon?

I am certain most Muslims were indeed insulted,. It was a pretty offensive cartoon afterall.

And what do you mean "they" is it "us" and "them" now? How can you generalize in such a stupid manner anyways?

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
how can they really say that didnt happen..really
I won't go into that cause it obviously did happen, but there are studie implying that there is something wrong withwhat we know about the Holocaust.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I won't go into that cause it obviously did happen, but there are studie implying that there is something wrong withwhat we know about the Holocaust.
i dont see how though

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am certain most Muslims were indeed insulted,. It was a pretty offensive cartoon afterall.

And what do you mean "they" is it "us" and "them" now? How can you generalize in such a stupid manner anyways?

They have burned embassys of the EU and burned flags with the cross on it. Allthough I don't believe in god it's still a symbol of western society.

It's a declaration of war as a matter of fact.

Originally posted by joeykangaroo
i dont see how though

I think the theory is that for four million humans to eb killed the COncentration camps weren't fit. I don't know if it is true, but either way it was a horrible atrocity.

Originally posted by Da preacher
They have burned embassys of the EU and burned flags with the cross on it. Allthough I don't believe in god it's still a symbol of western society.

It's a declaration of war as a matter of fact.

They? Who is this ****ing "they" you are refering to?

These extremists!

Originally posted by Da preacher
These extremists!

Ahh yes...so the 200 extremists that did that (high estimation) ...hmmm cool I see...yes, an act pof war, those are not the only people insulted by the cartoons though. Ever thought about that?

Their religion kind of asks for it. Any religion for that matter.

Originally posted by Da preacher
Their religion kind of asks for it. Any religion for that matter.

Bullshit! Many Muslims are jsut like "us". They feel insulted because something very important to them was made fun of, and that is perfectly understandable...that the fundamentalists did these things is horrible, but such statements as your first doesn't really help either.

Originally posted by finti
they did say why when they posted the cartoons. It was an invite for artist to draw muhammed for a new book ment for religious education, they ment no harm by it. They just showed the few examples they got

Understand now....I missed your earlier post:

Originally posted by finti
The drawings came about because of a request of drawings of muhammed for educational stuff, religion classes and so on. Guess some artist thought satire was the best way to portray muhammed.

As for the following post.

"These idiots have attacked European territory an have burned flags with crosses on them."

If it will make you feel better....they've burned many more U.S flags in the past than European flags.

And I agree with Bardock42...this whole "us" and "them" is going to lead to who's the good guys and who's the bad guys. And I don't feel that is necessary.