Ultimate Colossus vs Ultimate Hulk

So as I said no one has harmed him, yea the he felt pain from the lava, but he was never in danger. The nuke knocked him out yes, but did it hurt him, did he feel pain? no. Wolverine tried to cut Colossus he felt it probably, but did it harm him no.

When I say Colossus hasn't been harmed I'm talking about knocked out teeth, broken ribs, blood, mortal danger, things of that matter. The adamantium claws that pierce Hulks skin, and could have killed Thing resulted in sparks when they touched Colossus armor.

Does anyone have a scan of when cyclops shot Colossus in the head with the optic blast?

It bounced off. But he felt the pain. He said "OW!"

I thought knock out sort of happend when the body was overloaded with pain and shuts the mind off to avoid it. Wouldn't that be harm?

Originally posted by soujaboy09

Does anyone have a scan of when cyclops shot Colossus in the head with the optic blast?

And I wanted to point out on the Havok ordeal. He ripped Ironman and Blackwidows suits to sh!t with one of his blasts before he knocked out Colossus.

So I think Ult. Havok is alot more powerful than 616 Havok.

I didn't see the pain did you?

If you could get a scan of the Havok blast with Colossus, and Iron man, and Black widow it would be appreciated.

If Ironman has a 6 in durability, and was torn apart by Havoks blast, but Colossus when he recieved the blast was only ko'd doesn't that mean Colossus durability should be ranked higher than Ironmans?

Originally posted by soujaboy09

If you could get a scan of the Havok blast with Colossus, and Iron man, and Black widow it would be appreciated.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Here it is.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/UltimateColossusandCyclops.jpg

And I wanted to point out on the Havok ordeal. He ripped Ironman and Blackwidows suits to sh!t with one of his blasts before he knocked out Colossus.

So I think Ult. Havok is alot more powerful than 616 Havok.

Or it could just mean Ultimate Ironmans armor is just weaker to offensive attacks.

Originally posted by Black Adam
Or it could just mean Ultimate Ironmans armor is just weaker to offensive attacks.

It was built so survive the surface of the Moon and the Mariana trench.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossuslifingSub3.jpg

Nice pics

Sorry to trouble you Snoop, but do you have a scan of when Havok blasted Ultimate Colossus?

Uhm did Ult Juggernaut take out Colossus?

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Nice pics

Sorry to trouble you Snoop, but do you have a scan of when Havok blasted Ultimate Colossus?

Actually it was kind of a cheap shot. Havok asked Colossus to join up with them but before he got a chance to answer he blasted Colossus. If Colossus was expecting the blow he may have handled it better.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/UltColossusandHavok.jpg

Originally posted by Warmonger
Uhm did Ult Juggernaut take out Colossus?

Or it could have been a cheap shot

Back to Havok, and Colossus I just noticed that when Colossus was laying on the ground that he was in his regular form. This means that when Havok shot Colossus he couldn't have been in his metal form, because in the Ultimate Universe when Colossus is ko'd he stays in his metal for, and in that pic he was regular.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Or it could have been a cheap shot

Back to Havok, and Colossus I just noticed that when Colossus was laying on the ground that he was in his regular form. This means that when Havok shot Colossus he couldn't have been in his metal form, because in the Ultimate Universe when Colossus is ko'd he stays in his metal for, and in that pic he was regular.

Um. No. Colossus was clearly in metal form when Havok shot him. Why would Colossus do something so stupid and de-armour when's holding the Scarlet Witch hostage AND just saw Iron Man get ripped to pieces. The force of the blast rendered him both unconscious and reverted him back to human form.

Thats my point, in the Ultimate Universe when Colossus is ko'd he stays in whatever form he was when he was conscience in this case his steel form if you don't believe me check out the Hellfire, and Brimstone plot line. He could have reverted to his normal form before Havok shot the blast due to Havok saying he wanted to team up. We all see Colossus laying on the ground in his human form thats all the proof needed.

It may have been a stupid idea to revert to his normal form, but he apperntly did it, and thats why he's lying on the ground unconscience instead of standing in his steel form.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Thats my point, in the Ultimate Universe when Colossus is ko'd he stays in whatever form he was when he was conscience in this case his steel form if you don't believe me check out the Hellfire, and Brimstone plot line. He could have reverted to his normal form before Havok shot the blast due to Havok saying he wanted to team up. We all see Colossus laying on the ground in his human form thats all the proof needed.

It may have been a stupid idea to revert to his normal form, but he apperntly did it, and thats why he's lying on the ground unconscience instead of standing in his steel form.

Honey:

When he's blasted through the air, what COLOR are his arms? GRAY. STEEL.

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Also in the next issue Colossus comments on Alex blasting him:

http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/6356/ultimatexmenissue651qk.jpg

What does Colossus say? "I have THICK SKIN."

Yeah but what did we really see of the fight between Thor and Colossus. One hit really, heck we never even saw the showdown between Thor and Storm. Or Ironman and Rhino. Ultimate Universe seems to have a lot of Off panel fights.

Whether or not ti was a team effort or a chepa shot or whatever colossu was left K.O ed at the end of it. So it seems his vulnerability might be a factor.

Also if you are going to discount the part where Flacon dropped colossus by jamming his fingers into his eyes then you might as welldrop the part where Cap actually damages the Hulk. Cause Captain America Dropped a tank on him with really scratching him Nick Fury actually set of a nuclear weapon right next to the Hulk and he survived. So it seems unreasonable to belive that he can really be damaged by a hit from cap.

Can we just agre on Colossus having suffered stun damage caused by extreme forces, but never having met a force strong enough to cause any tissue damage (broken bones, torn flesh/steel, bleeding...) on him?!

Btw... the "vulnerable organic eyes"-thing is rather bullsh*t!!!
If it were so, Colossus would have had severe problems while rescuing the sub from deep sea or taking the nuke!

I think it was just a plot device, used to make the fight between the X-Men and the Ultimates present more even and thus more interesting, cause otherwise the Ultimates wouldn't have had the slightest chance.

I can imagine, that the author thought himself pretty clever rationalizing the organic eyes with real physical science.
Actually it was rather dull, since he used that science just on ONE small part of Colossus, ignoring the rest of his body and other mutants and their SCIENCE DEFYING SUPERPOWERS!!!

Originally posted by wannabe
Btw... the "vulnerable organic eyes"-thing is rather bullsh*t!!!
If it were so, Colossus would have had severe problems while rescuing the sub from deep sea or taking the nuke!

As far as i'm concerned, since the only time his eyes have been directly attacked they were vulnerable, I take that as evidence that his eyes are indeed vulnerable.

I know the sub rescue contradicts that, but that was a situation where it's easy for a writer to forget about the eyes being, or not being, vulnerable. The other was a direct attack on the eyes, and it worked, therefore i'm going with that one for now.