Ultimate Colossus vs Ultimate Hulk

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Well, him closing his eyes before the mini nuke went off would explain why that didn't harm his eyes. The sub rescue is still tricky though.

I call the Falcon/Colossus deal crap.

I just want to no why Colossus was in his normal form when he was on the ground? in the Ultimate universe when Colossus is ko'd he stays in whatever form he was in when he was conscience.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
I just want to no why Colossus was in his normal form when he was on the ground? in the Ultimate universe when Colossus is ko'd he stays in whatever form he was in when he was conscience.

I think that the wikipedia website is incorrect in their accumption that he stays armored up.

Or then it's a detail that alters as the plot needs. You won't be able to make up a common decision of this.

Eventually, not even Ultimate Colossus can win the Hulk. Why? Colossus sucks.

Saying that something sucks isn't actually a good argument, contrary of what you might believe.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Well, him closing his eyes before the mini nuke went off would explain why that didn't harm his eyes. The sub rescue is still tricky though.

As far as i'm concerned, since the only time his eyes have been directly attacked they were vulnerable, I take that as evidence that his eyes are indeed vulnerable.

I know the sub rescue contradicts that, but that was a situation where it's easy for a writer to forget about the eyes being, or not being, vulnerable. The other was a direct attack on the eyes, and it worked, therefore i'm going with that one for now.

Again:

I think it was just a plot device, used to make the fight between the X-Men and the Ultimates present more even and thus more interesting, cause otherwise the Ultimates wouldn't have had the slightest chance.

I can imagine, that the author thought himself pretty clever rationalizing the organic eyes with real physical science.
Actually it was rather dull, since he used that science just on ONE small part of Colossus, ignoring the rest of his body and other mutants and their SCIENCE DEFYING SUPERPOWERS!!!

Originally posted by Tulika
Eventually, not even Ultimate Colossus can win the Hulk. Why? Colossus sucks.

I want to know to why do you think Ultimate colossus sucks?

When Juggernaut had Colossus ko'd in his hands was Colossus in his normal form or his steel form?

Does Hulk have any fighting skills at all or does he just use brute strength?

Colossu was in his human form when the smoke cleared but he was in his Steel Form before Weapon-X smoked the mansion. Come to think of it they need to redo that whole scene. Cause Iceman was right next to Colossu while he was working out in steel form, then Juggernaut goes in gets Colossuss then later we Iceman appear from the upstrairs of the mansion but he should have been with Peter.

Hulk doesn't seem to have any real fighting skills but Ihonestly haven't seen any skills feats from Colossus.

Originally posted by wannabe
I'm not denying, that this is now canon. I'm just saying that this canon fact is bullsh*t and pretty dumb!!!

Again:

I think it was just a plot device, used to make the fight between the X-Men and the Ultimates present more even and thus more interesting, cause otherwise the Ultimates wouldn't have had the slightest chance.

I can imagine, that the author thought himself pretty clever rationalizing the organic eyes with real physical science.
Actually it was rather dull, since he used that science just on ONE small part of Colossus, ignoring the rest of his body and other mutants and their SCIENCE DEFYING SUPERPOWERS!!!
I agree with DarkCrawler: Pretty convincing "argument" that statement of yours! 🙄
Btw...why do you think Colossus sucks?

Btu if you discount that then it logically follows that you discount Ult Cap even scratching him cause Hulk survived a REAL nuke.

Originally posted by Warmonger
Btu if you discount that then it logically follows that you discount Ult Cap even scratching him cause Hulk survived a REAL nuke.

Colossus hasn't shown any fighting skills? Thor couldn't even touch Colossus in the 10 min's they were fighting. He also showed us some skill when Iron Man was flying at him and he simply grabed him out of the air.

Hulk has shown less durability then Colossus also, because Wolverine is able to cut Hulk, but not Colossus.

wasn't Hulks ribs broken by Thors hammer?

The healing factor would do Hulk good in this fight, it gives him the edge.

Ultimate Hulk got a power up after the nuke hit him, so he could be as strong as 616 now.

I think Colossus is still stronger atleast in the 95 to 100 ton range.

Where have you been during the Ultimate comics? Ultimate Colossus in 95-100 ton range lol, he lifted a 7000 ton sub full of water, and humans from the bottom of the ocean, and carried it to shore. He overcame 35,000 tons of force from magneto's grip, and stoped a speeding train dead in its tracks.

95-100 tons lol thats funny

So then He's gotta be as strong as 616 Hulk....

Wats exactly are you asking?

I can only say 'Crikey' at the big metal russian.

ok?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
But Hulk has a healing factor. I'm sure he was pretty damm messed up after the nuke went off. He just healed his wounds.

Actually from what I've seen Hulk does not have a healing factor. Rember when they finally subded the Hulk Banner still had broken ribs. He was bitching about it after the fight. So apperantly the Hulk never healed the injuries THor gave him.

Colouss caught a freaking train which was rushing at him. No skill sjust brute power smae thing with Iron Man.

Also we never saw Colossus fighting Thor we only see one panel with him hitting THor that doesn't display any fighting skills if he is so much tougher and stronger. Hell if that were the case that means Ult Hulk is a fighting god cause he tossed Thor all the way across Madison square. He could have been beating on him because he had far superior fighting skills or simply because he was much stronger and tougher.

How can the scarlet witch survive a shot from havoc? A shot that knocked colossus out and shredded iron man and black widow's armor?