More damage : Guns or swords ?

Started by GCG7 pages

Any 'real' photographs to support its existance ?

That would truly have a devastating power and range.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
As Crocodile Dundee would say...
"Thats not a gun... This is a gun"

I know of those. German , ww2 i belive . They only built two of them because of funding or something......

Yer... But there not that clear...

Effective range 40 km
From the test firing....

"The armor-piercing shells were almost seventeen feet long and weighed over seven tons. It took a ton of propellant to fire the shell from the one hundred and five-foot barrel of the giant gun. The shell could penetrate eighty yards of earth. A high explosive shell was also made for this gun. When test-fired, the shell formed a crater nearly ninety feet across and thirty feet deep."

check out the sites...
http://palpatine.chez-alice.fr/Page13/page13.htm
http://user.mc.net/~hawk/biggun.htm

OMG that thing is a MONSTER! Can you imagine the force inside the barrel of that thing projecting such a heavy object so far staggering.....................so where is the sword to match Hit or Miss's weapon and the person to carry it🙂

"The armor-piercing shells were almost seventeen feet long and weighed over seven tons. It took a ton of propellant to fire the shell from the one hundred and five-foot barrel of the giant gun. The shell could penetrate eighty yards of earth. A high explosive shell was also made for this gun. When test-fired, the shell formed a crater nearly ninety feet across and thirty feet deep."

THAT tears a ship in quarters !

Originally posted by soleran30
so where is the sword to match Hit or Miss's weapon and the person to carry it🙂

Other then He-man I don't think there is... Possibly samurai jack aswell..

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Yer... But there not that clear...

Effective range 40 km
From the test firing....

check out the sites...
http://palpatine.chez-alice.fr/Page13/page13.htm
http://user.mc.net/~hawk/biggun.htm

Why use a tactical nuclear strike when we can fire one of these babies. the plans can't be that hard to duplicate.....

not everywhere as railway tracks around! kinda hard to put this on a ship aswell...

well we do use bombs now that are filled with cement instead of explosives to limit the effect of innocents and with the added weight can cause a fairly large hole but lol 7ton shells lol our biggest battleships don't fire rounds like that🙂

True....

It all depends on what you want to do... You want to fight someone at a very close range... Like 3-1 meters a sword is probably better... You want to blow up half of a town...A gun is probaby better... If you matched a swords man up agains my big gun at a range of anything less that 5 miles the crew probably wouldn't even be able to load the round in time before he got under the guns minimum firing range and boarded the gun, promply hacking up everyone... and no the gun can't fire directly up and kill itself and the guy with the sword...

That is probably the legendary 'Big Bertha' which was for real indeed. But as said, they only made 2 before the tremendous costs and man-power required to maintain them hit the Germans back in the face.
They did solve that by coming up with the V1 & V2 ballastic missiles.
Still a most impressive weapon, probably THE baddest ever in artillery.
But back to the topic of this, in comparing guns to swords you'll need to calculate mobility and 1 man operation in it. This is about injury aflicted in close quarters by eighter a sword or a gun.
Have to say, guns beat all melee weapons in gruesome effect now-a days. But I do believe that in a fight between a man with a blade and a man with a gun as the are in close quarters, the man with the sword will win. In close range the sword will do far more damage then a gun in the same situation, and it can be put to use in more varied manners.
But eventually, we haven't dropped the swords in wars and picked up guns for nothing.

he never specified in close quarters however if that were the case I would also agree with you...................its also pretty similar with knives and bats in close quarters for effectiveness vs gun.

If range is unspecified in this, the last 200 years of firearm development will put every sword fighter underground. It isn't the same ballgame. Hell, it isn't the same sport anymore.
The odds have to be fair a bit at least, making the talent of the weapons' wielder a noticeable influence in the fight.
Hences my close quarters example. If else, crap: imagine yourselves a expert swordsman with ages of experience, and then some uneducated army rookie aims this at you, tech distorts the odds:

Originally posted by soleran30
Yup all that movie stuff has let people think swords are the BOMB! Yeah give me a gun and a silencer and its ALOT quiter then most swords and axes cutting through someone🙂

50 caliber is overkill🙂 You take 3-4 9mm rounds and that can drop you one 45 round etc etc and its safer for the shooter................

Hell give me a pellet or a bb gun..I bet I could do more damage with those than I could with a sword.

Well, they don't have sword-classes in highschool anymore

Originally posted by soleran30
.....................so where is the sword to match Hit or Miss's weapon and the person to carry it🙂

Here you go:

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Well, they don't have sword-classes in highschool anymore

LOL.......................

what is that the gun off the nose of the a-10?

Yes it is. The GAU-8 Avenger, 30 mm. 7 barrel gatling cannon.
Did you know they build the gun first, but found out they didn't had a plane able to carry it, so they created the A-10 around it.

A little size-comparison:

Originally posted by Bardock42
Here you go:

Guts from Berserk is a cool char...😉
Shame they never really concuded the anime... I'll have to read the manga one day...