Marka Ragnos vs NJO Luke and DN Luke

Is that why Sadow and Kressh started to gain testicular fortitude after Ragnos had died? They kept their mouths shut during his reign, and they feared and respected him. All of this simply states that Ragnos was more powerful than them. The most powerful of the most powerful with a "frightening grasp of the dark side". His death was sensed by Odan Urr in his sleep on the other side of the galaxy, that's how powerful he was. Read the comics please. Fishy is 100% right, even with ambiguous text it shows that Ragnos was the greatest of the greatest.

In Kotor, it is revealed that Duron Quel Droma's death in Korriban was sensed by his master on the other side of the galaxy as well. Most of what you have said have been assumptions.

Oh yeah is that revealed? How and when?

and do you know the difference between a Master and a Dark Lord you don't even know?

The Master always forms a bond with the apprentice, they have a special connection to each other, there is no such thing between a Dark Lord of the Sith and a Jedi.

You're telling me this because...

It is revealed under the info on the Quel Droma robes.

lol. I don't know what to say to that. Ragnos' power is pretty much confirmed so there isn't anything to argue against.

How is it confirmed?

Have you read the comics? Lets start with that

The only things in the comics that gave us a clue that Ragnos was powerful were the fact that he killed Simus and the fact that he was able to come back from the dead as a spirit.

And the fact that Sadow and Kressh showed fear from his spirit, stopped what they were doing, and bowed down.. That's a sign of respect and fear.

Numan, gameplay is not canon. Items are not canon.

The only thing that's canon from the video games is the storyline, i.e. major plot points like "Katarn killed Jerec" or "Revan killed Malak."

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Originally posted by Numan
In Kotor, it is revealed that Duron Quel Droma's death in Korriban was sensed by his master on the other side of the galaxy as well. Most of what you have said have been assumptions.

First, Master-apprentice bonds are VERY strong. However, sensing the death of a sith lord across the entire galaxy (When the jedi did not even know of the sith) is really saying something. Let's put it to you this way- when Malak, Freedan Nadd, Sadow, Exar Kun or anyone else died, no one across the galaxy felt it in the force.

Second, you're the one here assuming that Ragnos was some bureaucrat in a clearly rule-of-the-strongest society. You're using the description from an ITEM in KotOR to defend your side, and yet you deliberately ignore the dozens of load screens and talks of the "strongest rule in the Sith empire" in the very game!

Exar Kun or anyone else died, no one across the galaxy felt it in the force.

It's hard to lump him in with the others, considering practically all other Force sensitives were above his moon when he unleashed his spirit, concentrating on imprisoning him in a wall of light.

Ahhh that is also true..

And he really didn't die either. But the point remains about Ragnos.

Originally posted by Wesker
And he really didn't die either. But the point remains about Ragnos.

Indeed it does. Bravo.

Originally posted by Wesker
First, Master-apprentice bonds are VERY strong. However, sensing the death of a sith lord across the entire galaxy (When the jedi did not even know of the sith) is really saying something. Let's put it to you this way- when Malak, Freedan Nadd, Sadow, Exar Kun or anyone else died, no one across the galaxy felt it in the force.

Second, you're the one here assuming that Ragnos was some bureaucrat in a clearly rule-of-the-strongest society. You're using the description from an ITEM in KotOR to defend your side, and yet you deliberately ignore the dozens of load screens and talks of the "strongest rule in the Sith empire" in the very game!

Odan-Urr actually foresaw from a dream the sith invasion. He did not feel Marka Ragnos' death so stop making things up.

Yes he did LOL.. I'm looking at the comic book right now..

So am I. Stop lying. Firstly he has the vision during Marka Ragnos' funeral so quite a bit after his actual death and secondly he states in the comics just as Jori reveals that the sith empire had her brother and were planning to invade the republic, that it was as he predicted.