Anakin and Luke Skywalker(ROTS&ROTJ) Vs Darth Malak

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
No, because Luke came after Yoda.

[b]Is it an in universe quote? And what does it explain exactly? And that would put Yoda ahead of Revan? One could argue that since there is no hierarchy, Revan could be on par with Yoda.

The quote is from the omniscient narrator. Plain and simple it says that Yoda is stronger than any Jedi before him. Revan was a Jedi before Yoda, so yes, it would put Yoda ahead of Revan. On par? No. It says "the greatest" not "tied for the greatest" or "amoung the greatest" or anything like that. [/B]

No it states Yoda is the greatest foe of darkness. That doesn't necessarily put him above Revan. It could put him on par, it's ambiguous.

The 'most devastatingly powerful foe' implies he was quite stronger thanRevan since Malak himself stated Revan was more powerful as a Jedi.

And since it's present tense, up to that point, Luke isn't born yet. No fuss, no muss

What's to say Revan's not on par with Yoda lightsnake? That's not clear cut.

Alright, let's break it down:
Revan is stronger as a Jedi than he was as a Sith. Thus he is a foe of the darkness
Yoda is THE most powerful foe of the darkness.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
What's to say Revan's not on par with Yoda lightsnake? That's not clear cut.

Because it says THE most devastatingly power foe, as in there is only one who can be THE.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Because it says [b]THE most devastatingly power foe, as in there is only one who can be THE. [/B]

Some 1 please tell me about Darth Malak. Personally I don't know too much about him. I do think that Anakin and Luke will most likely kill him

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Vader would rape Malak? It's so nice you offered a compelling argument to back up your claims. It's also nice that you know something not even the star wars writers know, Malak's potential compared to that of Palpatine, and Vader. So he "clearly" isn't more than twice the power of Malak. In fact, Malak would give him a serious run for his money in force abilities, and more than likely would defeat him in saber combat.

Want proof that already as anakin, anakin > malak in every posible way and vader is pretty much above anakin in the force and still is formidable with the lightsaber.

Vader pretty much trumps over malaks force abilities, he choked people from incredible distances and just read Empire comics, The books pretty much make him and sidious look extremely powerful

Heres the quote to prove anakin > malak.

"Lord vader, you skills are unmatched by ANY sith before you, now go and bring peace to the empire"

And clearly he was referring to sabers and force powers, ROTS novel stated this when obi1 viewed the security hologram and in the vader vs malak thread, it was pretty much proven vader > malak.BTW what the hell makes malak so good? Right i remember NOTHING, Lightning ZOMG! You forgot vader has a lightsaber, FORCE DRAIN! omg you forgot that vader despite being a powerful sith lord wouldnt be taken down by a feat. What? thats all? That proves malak would even last against vader? Look at vader, 80% of ROTJ sidious whom is 15% stronger than ROTS sidious as FOC proved he got stronger, wouldnt that make vader 90-95% of ROTS sidious? Again vader has more skill, more experience and wider knowledge of the dark side than malak can ever do

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
That is hardly conclusive evidence for Yoda being more powerful than Revan.

Originally posted by Kadesh
[B]Excuse me? Giving vader a hard time in the force and beating him in saber combat? Hell no.

Want proof that already as anakin, anakin > malak in every posible way and vader is pretty much above anakin in the force and still is formidable with the lightsaber.

Vader pretty much trumps over malaks force abilities, he choked people from incredible distances and just read Empire comics, The books pretty much make him and sidious look extremely powerful

Heres the quote to prove anakin > malak.

"Lord vader, you skills are unmatched by ANY sith before you, now go and bring peace to the empire"

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
LOL! Sidious' words are proof? Wow Kadesh if that's your argument, that's sad. Sidious also said that he died a few times before Endor, which he lied about, therefore Sidious is a liar, therefore the quote is meaningless, try again.
And sadly that was your argument so I don't think Vader will be trumping over Malak anytime soon.

So because sidious lied once means he is a liar all the time? Sorry darth sexy, theres a reason he lied to luke on byss, he wanted luke to know that he can never die.

Is there a reason to lie to anakin? Not that i know of. try again
People lie with reasons. Then i guess by your logic since kreia is a liar, what she said about revan must be false then, Thats by your logic not mine. She personally trained revan so she knew that he is uber, As palpatine trained anakin he know what anakin is capable of and palpatine studied every event in galactic history, Get my point? or do you want me to speak in your language tdtd?

Firstly, prove that malak is even close to sidious or even close to vader, Right you cant at all i forgot, You are a kotor fanboy, Admit it, theres no shame, i myself is a vader fanboy, ask everybody.

By the way, Malak is weak as a pussy when he is not in the SF, anybody who plays kotor can mop the leviathens floor with his ass super easy, Hes weak as shit, And in the SF, so what if it powers him up? It powers dark siders as well. Who knows? any sith lord can do the same who is strong enough, people like vader sidious revan, exar kun naga sadow,

By your logic, anybody who is faster than vader and has lightning wins by default, Bull sh!t, he killed the dark woman and maul who is alot faster and more agile than he can ever be in the suit.

Get my point? Kotor fanboyism is worse than OT fanboyism, its worse
that PT fanboyism, god its worse than even being a fanboy of sidious. Dont get it wrong, i am not saying you are one but i will leak out names pretty soon,

OK ignore my last post, i contradicted myself somewhere, Ill continue this another time

LISTEN UP:
Revan is stronger as a Jedi than as a Sith. As he fights te Sith, that makes him a foe of the darkness.

Thus...

agreed

What is the proof that Revan was stronger as a Jedi?

Malaks words

The same malak who said that when he blasted revan's mind he had "already surpass you in every single way"... Yet, as a lightside user, Revan HIMSELF says to bastilla " I am as strong in the light as I ever was following the dark side". He said this word by word, so i think i would trust more on his words since malak is implying that Revan was not so strong as darth lord in order to excuse himself from not having fight him in a lightsaber duel, as it should happen between master and apprentice...

"By the way, Malak is weak as a pussy when he is not in the SF, anybody who plays kotor can mop the leviathens floor with his ass super easy"

This is gameplay, canonly you CAN'T defeat malak by this time, stated by Bastilla if you say to her that you can beat malak on the Leviathen...

By the way, i would like to defend malak's honour with this:

"Are you alright? What's wrong?"- Shaela Nuur
"Another vision...worse this time...worlds dying... Sith so powerful..."- Duron Quel-Droma

HAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by Kadesh
By the way, Malak is weak as a pussy when he is not in the SF, anybody who plays kotor can mop the leviathens floor with his ass super easy, Hes weak as shit, And in the SF, so what if it powers him up? It powers dark siders as well. Who knows? any sith lord can do the same who is strong enough, people like vader sidious revan, exar kun naga sadow,

By your logic, anybody who is faster than vader and has lightning wins by default, Bull sh!t, he killed the dark woman and maul who is alot faster and more agile than he can ever be in the suit.

Get my point? Kotor fanboyism is worse than OT fanboyism, its worse
that PT fanboyism, god its worse than even being a fanboy of sidious. Dont get it wrong, i am not saying you are one but i will leak out names pretty soon

It was due to "Game Mechanics" that you could easily defeat Malak on Leviathan in Saber Fight. In realistic SW fights - one hit from a Light Saber will kill any living being (no matter how powerful) and you get to hit Malak several times with your Light Saber which is not real.

We actually don't know that how much impressive was Malak on Leviathan in Saber Dueling against Revan but he surely managed to defend himself in-order to survive against Revan's over-powering attacks, which was impressive.

And the way in which Malak blocked Carth's blaster fire in just 2 seconds was indeed a small hint of Malak's impressive Saber skills.

And Malak clearly demonstrated on Leviathan that he could Force Stun his opponents very easily and could get the advantage he needs to win in a fight. He even force-stunned Revan on Leviathan (as an example). So he can stun Anakin and Luke as well and then slice through them.

KOTOR fanboyism is not worse then PT fanboyism. Fans of either side try to down-play the other side at every opportunity.

Is good to see that you are amused...

Nice post Legend! Malak is indeed powerful. I personally rank him just under Dooku.