"Your thoughts" OR . . . "A smart person's thread!"

Originally posted by Doctor SKank
Not as such ..... Its really about the appliance of human language. The presence could rewrite evils and enact cosmic justice and vengeance with a mere thought, but he doesn't. Instead he gave Jim Corrigan the choice to enact vengeance or go to heaven. Its seems like a very cosmic 'experimentaion' on free will and choice. Jean on the other hand is referred to as NEEDING, to take human form (to do whatever she has to do). Its a contradiction apply a word such as 'need' to an opnipotent being. 🙂

Jean needs to for fear of destroying her work. She can and has manifested in Phoenix form. By any account God himself never enters creation himself for the same reason as his being is too awesome for creation to maintain it hence the reason he works through angels or manifestations such as Jesus.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Jean needs to for fear of destroying her work. She can and has manifested in Phoenix form. By any account God himself never enters creation himself for the same reason as his being is too awesome for creation to maintain it hence the reason he works through angels or manifestations such as Jesus.

He's is revealed to Moses on Mount thingy. The point is God can act outside of creation, the phoenix HAS to enter it to carryout her work. 🙂

Originally posted by Doctor SKank
He's is revealed to Moses on Mount thingy. The point is God can act outside of creation, the phoenix HAS to enter it to carryout her work. 🙂

Nope. I think youre forgetting the universe in the palm of the hand, "Scott live, live"!! scene. 😉

U are sooo Whirly. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. I think youre forgetting the universe in the palm of the hand, "Scott live, live"!! scene. 😉

U are sooo Whirly. 🙂

No you moron .... he is saying that he can affect the universe from outside it, such as when he re-united the Spectre with a human host. 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
No you moron .... he is saying that he can affect the universe from outside it, such as when he re-united the Spectre with a human host. 🙂

Not entirely my friend, but you do make an excellent point. 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
No you moron .... he is saying that he can affect the universe from outside it, such as when he re-united the Spectre with a human host. 🙂

and thats exactly what she did in said scene you moron. 🙂

Try again. 🙁

Originally posted by Doctor SKank
Not entirely my friend, but you do make an excellent point. 🙂

🙄 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
and thats exactly what she did in said scene you moron. 🙂

Try again. 🙁

Im not argueing that she can affect the univesre from the outside, but you clearly stated that she has to be within reality, to do certain tasks. The prescence is based on the classical god of Theism, he 'needs' to do nothing. 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Im not argueing that she can affect the univesre from the outside, but you clearly stated that she has to be within reality, to do certain tasks. The prescence is based on the classical god of Theism, he 'needs' to do nothing. 🙂

Phoenix isnt God by canon so i fail to see what argument youre attempting to win here. 🙂

Given that Phoenix exists both inside and outside reality it can be argued that Phoenix manifesting within reality to perform a task whilst simultaneously existing beyond creation actually nullifies said argument. 🙁

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Given that Phoenix exists both inside and outside reality it can be argued that Phoenix manifesting within reality to perform a task whilst simultaneously existing beyond creation actually nullifies said argument. 🙁

No because you insinuated that she NEEDs to be in reality to perform her task. The God of Classical Theism could do it from outside reality. It nullifies nothing. 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
No because you insinuated that she NEEDs to be in reality to perform her task. The God of Classical Theism could do it from outside reality. It nullifies nothing. 🙂

But ultimately wouldnt i have to be arguing that Phoenix is God for me to care? 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But ultimately wouldnt i have to be arguing that Phoenix is God for me to care? 😉

No .... as evidently is the case, you've already argued for an entire page. 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
No .... as evidently is the case, you've already argued for an entire page. 🙂

Cos i missed the banter to be honest. You've been away for too long. 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
No .... as evidently is the case, you've already argued for an entire page. 🙂

Well done my friend .... that is an Official Skank. 🙂

Whatever makes you feel happy mate. Lets not spoil this thread for others, it was actually quite good up until this. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. That would be Beyonce. 😄

The new Hellifire Club Black Queen ? 🙂

Originally posted by Doctor SKank
The new Hellifire Club Black Queen ? 🙂

😉

I've just spent the last couple of days argueing that Marvel is just a ludicrously unrealistic as D.C.Who agrees ? Can anyone make a decent arguement for Marvel.

How do Green Lanterns actually loose ? I've seen them do everything from particle energy transfer to tapping into the Speed force. Seriously how do they loose ?

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that's a great debate!! historically of course marvel WAS considered the more realistic universe. i see no way to distinguish between the 2 any more, personally. with marvel's blatant overpowering they seem to have strayed from their roots, so to speak. both have characters and situations that try and emullate reality, but you're point is correct imo -- both are ludicrously unreal.

hell, in an attempt to make things more 'real' marvel couldn't even create the 'new universe' and keep from 'powering it up'/comic-book-ifying it. dc's vertigo line (while pretty strange) may be the closest 'real' brand out there. maybe.

Originally posted by leonidas
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that's a great debate!! historically of course marvel WAS considered the more realistic universe. i see no way to distinguish between the 2 any more, personally. with marvel's blatant overpowering they seem to have strayed from their roots, so to speak. both have characters and situations that try and emullate reality, but you're point is correct imo -- both are ludicrously unreal.

hell, in an attempt to make things more 'real' marvel couldn't even create the 'new universe' and keep from 'powering it up'/comic-book-ifying it. dc's vertigo line (while pretty strange) may be the closest 'real' brand out there. maybe.

On the whole the Ultimate line has been pretty realistic, and some of the titles from the Wildstorm universe are very realistic.