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Omega-level mutant is a fictional designation for a certain powerful class of super-powered individuals in the Marvel Comics universe to indicate mutants with the ability (or potential) to exist beyond the boundaries of physical existence. Immortality is also a possibility, but not a requirement. Being able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale, as well as having a body capable of withstanding such power levels without external help, also seem to be requirements
wiki lists them as such, and the issues they were revealed in
Name of confirmed Omega-Level Mutant
Elixir (New Mutants vol. 2 # 12 by Beast)
Iceman (X-Men: Forever)
Phoenix / Jean Grey (X-Men: Forever by Professor X, also known as the
White Phoenix of the Crown.)
Mister M (The 198 Files)
Franklin Richards (The 198 Files)
Kid Omega (New X-Men #154 (appears as Phoenix host) and Phoenix Endsong #2 by various sources)
Rachel Summers (Uncanny X-Men #208 by Nimrod. Once also held the Phoenix)
Mr. Immortal (GLX-Mas by Marvel Comics's Editors[|IGN])
Vulcan (X-Men: Deadly Genesis by Emma Frost, Uncanny X-Men #477
i swear to god sometimes i wanna throw storm in there too, if it werent for the fact that apocalpse ID'd her, himslef, and magento as Alphas...and technically thanos is omega cuz his mutant ability is to synthesize cosmic energy, not to mention all the enhancements he gave himslef over the millenia
Originally posted by manjaro
wikiOmega-level mutant is a fictional designation for a certain powerful class of super-powered individuals in the Marvel Comics universe to indicate mutants with the ability (or potential) to exist beyond the boundaries of physical existence. Immortality is also a possibility, but not a requirement. Being able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale, as well as having a body capable of withstanding such power levels without external help, also seem to be requirements
wiki lists them as such, and the issues they were revealed in
Name of confirmed Omega-Level Mutant
Elixir (New Mutants vol. 2 # 12 by Beast)
Iceman (X-Men: Forever)
Phoenix / Jean Grey (X-Men: Forever by Professor X, also known as the
White Phoenix of the Crown.)
Mister M (The 198 Files)
Franklin Richards (The 198 Files)
Kid Omega (New X-Men #154 (appears as Phoenix host) and Phoenix Endsong #2 by various sources)
Rachel Summers (Uncanny X-Men #208 by Nimrod. Once also held the Phoenix)
Mr. Immortal (GLX-Mas by Marvel Comics's Editors[|IGN])
Vulcan (X-Men: Deadly Genesis by Emma Frost, Uncanny X-Men #477
i swear to god sometimes i wanna throw storm in there too, if it werent for the fact that apocalpse ID'd her, himslef, and magento as Alphas...and technically thanos is omega cuz his mutant ability is to synthesize cosmic energy, not to mention all the enhancements he gave himslef over the millenia
So basically their conciseness would be able to reconstitute their bodies at a molecular level, if they where destroyed ? If thats the case, Storm cant be one. I thought that weird T.K. psionic kid from Endsong was a Omega aswell ? 🙁
So is Magneto. But a lot of confirmed omegas didn't even know how to reconstitute their bodies when they die aka Iceman. They just label them and they get maor upgrades.
Storm did become an elemntal being, but it was of different reality. One criteria is transcendence and Storm always hinted her transcendence in the comics, forgot the issue, but she did said that she experienced transcendence.
Magneto and Storm are practically enigmas, same as Xavier as to why they aren't labeled Omegas. Maybe they are just high-level Alpha mutants, or just they are already powerful. But from all the development esp. with Storm and Magneto with their powers, pretty soon they'll be strong enough to be labeled as one.
Originally posted by RisingStormStorm did become an elemntal being, but it was of different reality. One criteria is transcendence and Storm always hinted her transcendence in the comics, forgot the issue, but she did said that she experienced transcendence.
W.T.F. the only truly transcendental characters through out the Marvel universe is the TOAA and Adam Warlock (With the soul gem), although G.S. would tell you that the Phoenix force is. Marvel tends to divulge from the ideal of transcendental existence, although they promote the idea of the soul. I can assure you that both Magneto and Storm are not transcendental.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
So basically their conciseness would be able to reconstitute their bodies at a molecular level, if they where destroyed ? If thats the case, Storm cant be one. I thought that weird T.K. psionic kid from Endsong was a Omega aswell ? 🙁
Yup. He is. And I alway thought Xavier was Omega too. He's not?
Originally posted by leonidas
gs, if galactus was supplied energy by 'creation', (in fact, wasn't he 'saved' by the pf?) then wouldn't it stand to reason that the power g wields is simply a manifestation of the pf? which in turn would make ss's power an extension of that? [b]pf seems to be the 'basest' level. in that sense, all power should be a derivative of it, with varying degrees of separation. power primordial would be another insistence of this. what really IS the difference between power cosmic and power primordial? i don't think there is one. i think it's rather the degree of control the user has over this creation force/universal force and the degree of access he/she has over it.[/B]
damn, the people at marvel must have spies in the kmc!! 😱
i wonder if i show this post to marvel, if i can get royalty rights . . .? 😖hifty:
damn, this was a good thread . . .
Originally posted by Validus
I must be missing something? 😮
the powers of the IG have apparently been retconned slightly. it is now believed that the IG is simply the power primordial. (i think . . .) the power primordial is believed to be the power of the universe, derived from the big bang, which is, of course, synonymous with the phoenix force.
or, more simply: power primordial and all other 'cosmic' power stems from the universes energy, which (if you believe such) is at its root, the PF. 😄
so . . . leo wants to get paid!
Do D.C. heroes have potential limitless powers
We find from this crossover, (which ocurred during the Superman Blue era), that all D.C. Super powers (Especially the ones that seemingly disobey the laws of pysics, Flight, heat vison etc) are derived from the God Wave.
http://www.geocities.com/mbrown123/xover/dc_genesis.html
This would also explain this taken from the Wiki installment for Superman:
Recently, some authors have implied that Superman's powers can reach nearly unlimited levels, based on solar energy absorption and withdrawal of mental blocks. In Our Worlds at War, Superman dives into the sun to gain sufficient energy to overpower Brainiac 13, who was imbued with the Imperiex Force. In Superman/Batman, when Kara Zor-El claims to be more powerful than Superman, he tells her that he put personal mental blocks on his powers as he grew up to keep from losing control and causing irreparable damage, blocks that Supergirl does not have. While Supergirl can appear to be stronger, Superman just has greater self-control.In an interview with Joe Casey on Alvaro's ComicBoards, he states that Superman can re-arrange the Solar System and tear a star apart. "I've always seen Superman as this completely over-the-top, fantastic character who has no limits whatsoever," writes Casey. Unencumbered by mental blocks, "Superman is unbeatable."
It is implied in the One Year Later Superman story that Superman exerts an element of subconscious control over his powers; to be Superman truly, it appears that Clark Kent must, on some level, want to be Superman. This is evidenced by the one-year period following the Infinite Crisis during which he lives happily as the powerless Clark Kent, with no desire to return to his former lifestyle. This lasts until Intergang operatives attack him and his powers return as his life is imperiled. After this, his other skills return (including flight and super-speed).[/B]
Re: Do D.C. heroes have potential limitless powers
Recently, some authors have implied that Superman's powers can reach nearly unlimited levels, based on solar energy absorption and withdrawal of mental blocks.
...that all D.C. Super powers (Especially the ones that seemingly disobey the laws of pysics, Flight, heat vison etc) are derived from the God Wave.
Re: Re: Do D.C. heroes have potential limitless powers
Originally posted by Mindship
Gotta love that phrase, "nearly unlimited." Such a wonderful self-contradiction. *sigh*
I think the word you are looking for is Oxymoron. It would explain why Superman is on a seemigly Skyfather level, in physical attributes.