Originally posted by sithsaber408
Right,.... because having red or blonde hair is the same as going against a person's biological functions and having sex with the same gender. 😐
Sexual arousal is a natural physiological reaction, not an intellectual one. For homosexuals, engaging in sex with a member of the same sex is an extension of this natural biological function.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
And it isn't "nature" that produces you, its environmental circumstances in your early childhood development.Nature, by its very definition, would not support the copulation of two members of the same sex of ANY species, as they would all die off.
Then how do you explain the fact that homosexuality extensively occurs in nature? If homosexuality is chosen, it would be exclusive to human beings, the only animals with the cognitive ability to choose. Homosexuality however, is not exclusive to human beings. In fact, homosexuality occurs in every sexually reproducing organism.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
But you aren't. You are a person with feelings, ideas, and you have great value. Its your choice of lifestyle and behaviours that are disgusting.
Homosexuality is not a "lifestyle," as if there is one lifestyle for all heterosexual people. Moreover, homosexuals do not engage in any behaviors that heterosexuals do not also engage in so if the behaviors in question are disgusting when engaged in by homosexuals, they are equally disgusting when engaged in by heterosexuals.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Sexual arousal is a natural physiological reaction, not an intellectual one. For homosexuals, engaging in sex with a member of the same sex is an extension of this natural biological function.
No, homosexuals engaging in sex with a member of the same sex is a perversion of their natural biological function.
Or do you mean to tell me now that your anus is not to excrement poop, but to be fertilized? (and develop a human life)
Or do you mean that a man's sperm was not designed to form with an egg from a woman's ovum?
Or do you mean that a woman has a period every month because her eggs were un-fertilized by a woman?
Of course not, you are far too smart for that.
Be who you want to be, but don't tell me that it's "an extension of your natural biological functions", when biology directly contradicts such a ludicrous bullshit statement.
BOLLOCKS!nono
Goodness me. Sithsabre at it with his homophobic ideas again?? (Sithsabre, don’t even bother sending me private messages. I don’t read them; learn to debate in a civilized manner first).
Who CARES if it’s chosen, genetic or something completely different?? If I became pregnant and the doctors told me, there was a chance my child would be gay, would I have stuff changed?? No.
What does Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Andy Warhol, sir Ian Mckellan, Lord Byron, Oscar Wilde, Elton John, George Michael, Pete Townsend, Franz Schubert and Peter Tchaikovsky have in common??
We are so much more than our biological ABILITY to procreate. We can even choose not to HAVE kids. What does it matter??? What is nature doing producing INFERTILE humans then? What is nature doing producing people who like heterosexual anal sex? What is nature doing producing a species that can invent stuff to NOT become pregnant??
Could I wake up tomorrow and suddenly be a Lesbian? I don’t know, with all the hot guys in the world I doubt it – and with ALL the hot guys in the world, I understand gay men!
HEY, waitaminute…
(The above sentence was humour, for the intellectually challenged among you) 😉
Well the PM was about your quote from Voltaire in your sig, just a little historical info. and not really about any topic.
As for the rest....
Well, you are entitled to your point of view, but you can't say that I don't debate in a civil manner:
Originally posted by sithsaber408
No, homosexuals engaging in sex with a member of the same sex is a [B]perversion of their natural biological function.Or do you mean to tell me now that your anus is not to excrement poop, but to be fertilized? (and develop a human life)
Or do you mean that a man's sperm was not designed to form with an egg from a woman's ovum?
Or do you mean that a woman has a period every month because her eggs were un-fertilized by a woman?
Of course not, you are far too smart for that.
Be who you want to be, but don't tell me that it's "an extension of your natural biological functions", when biology directly contradicts such a ludicrous bullshit statement.
BOLLOCKS!nono [/B]
Or:
Nature, by its very definition, would not support the copulation of two members of the same sex of ANY species, as they would all die off.
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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You are a disgusting human being.
But you aren't. You are a person with feelings, ideas, and you have great value. Its your choice of lifestyle and behaviours that are disgusting.
*tsk*
So uncivilized.
NO, and NO.
Doesn't that make you feel better?
Your sidestepping and dodging of the issue by trying to equate the natural act of sex between me and my wife with the unnatural sex of two people of the same gender is funny at best, and erroneous at worst.
Least of all, does taking my sexual habits into consideration have ANYTHING to do with homosexuality?
No.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
NO, and NO.Doesn't that make you feel better?
Your sidestepping and dodging of the issue by trying to equate the natural act of sex between me and my wife with the unnatural sex of two people of the same gender is funny at best, and erroneous at worst.
Least of all, does taking my sexual habits into consideration have ANYTHING to do with homosexuality?
No.
Um, no it actually points out your hypocrisy quite well. If you're having sex for fun, then of course it's not what nature intended for you to do. You've alreayd pointed that out. So if you can have sex for reasons other than procreation (NOT what God intended, mind you) then what right do you have telling people that same gender sex is unnatural and then dare try to justify it with the God?
I'm not telling them not to do it.
I'm telling them it's unnatural.
People will always do what the hell they want anyway, I just don't want them telling me what they do is natural.
And yes, it was what God wanted, for a man and wife to have sex inside marriage for pleasure.
(Again read the book in the Bible called "Song of Solomon."😉
Don't attempt to try to debate my own religion with me, I was a supervisor at a Christian bookstore, and I will most definately WTFpwn you.
And my wife and I know that if she were to become pregnant through our pleasurable sex that we will raise the baby, as God intended.
You really are quite foolish to try to quote some misinterpreted pre-concieved notion of God that you have to me, in the attempt that it will get me to think that me and my wife having sex in a loving commited marriage is against the teachings of God, and that homosexual sex is somehow natural, and God's intention for peoples bodies.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
No, homosexuals engaging in sex with a member of the same sex is a [B]perversion of their natural biological function.Or do you mean to tell me now that your anus is not to excrement poop, but to be fertilized? (and develop a human life)
Or do you mean that a man's sperm was not designed to form with an egg from a woman's ovum?
Or do you mean that a woman has a period every month because her eggs were un-fertilized by a woman?
Of course not, you are far too smart for that.
Be who you want to be, but don't tell me that it's "an extension of your natural biological functions", when biology directly contradicts such a ludicrous bullshit statement.
BOLLOCKS!nono [/B]
My anus does not get penetrated, but when I am penetrating the anus of another man, it is not with the intention of "fertilizing" it. If I was engaging in intercourse with a member of the same sex with the intention of reproducing, you might have a point. As it is, intercourse is an extention of my biological need to copulate, not to procreate.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
I'm not telling them not to do it.I'm telling them it's unnatural.
People will always do what the hell they want anyway, I just don't want them telling me what they do is natural.
And yes, it was what God wanted, for a man and wife to have sex inside marriage for pleasure.
(Again read the book in the Bible called "Song of Solomon."😉
Don't attempt to try to debate my own religion with me, I was a supervisor at a Christian bookstore, and I will most definately WTFpwn you.
And my wife and I know that if she were to become pregnant through our pleasurable sex that we will raise the baby, as God intended.
You really are quite foolish to try to quote some misinterpreted pre-concieved notion of God that you have to me, in the attempt that it will get me to think that me and my wife having sex in a loving commited marriage is against the teachings of God, and that homosexual sex is somehow natural, and God's intention for peoples bodies.
Homosexuals do not engage in any behaviors that heterosexuals do not also engage in. If they are engaging in the same behaviors, then it is not any less natural for one group to engage in them, then it is for the other group to engage in them.
Moreover, there is nothing natural about the forms of contraception that both you and your wife use, so do not speak about what is natural and what is right "in the eyes of your God," when what you do is not natural nor is it right "in the eyes of your God."
*sigh*
And it's now natural for a girl of thirteen to get an abortion without telling anbody in her family, while she can't go on a school field trip or recieve Tylenol from the nurse without a parents permission......
Guess you think that I should just stand by and watch the moral standards of this country go down the tubes because....
"Well hey, we are progressing past those days." (towards what destination, I often wonder)
"Thats old fashioned." (if it ain't broke, don't fix it.)
or my personal fave: "If it doesn't hurt you, it's none of your business."
BOLLOCKS.
It's my world just as much as yours, and I have family, a wife, and soon children, whose intrests I'm looking out for.
You may look out for your wife and children...but leave other people's wives and children alone.
And it is broke, that is the problem. The Moral standards are not workable as they were...and infact are by our standards today considered immoral....
You think it is better for a thirteen year old girl to get the baby? Probably be forced to leave school? I see....evil.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Guess you think that I should just stand by and watch the moral standards of this country go down the tubes because....
No, I think you should stand by and know you and your religion don't have the market cornered on morals and values.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
It's my world just as much as yours, and I have family, a wife, and soon children, whose intrests I'm looking out for.
Well, that certainly places your opinions at the head of the line for consideration. I'm sure you're one of those people who thinks you've fulfilled gods plan by squeezing out a pup. But you seem to think that "It's my world, just as much as it is yours" really means, go **** yourself, rather than we all have to live together. The difference is that you, and people like you, won't just shut the hell up and live.